I've recently purchased and retro-modded a Toshiba Libretto from eBay.
It was listed as non-working, untetested. I added a IDE to CF card adapter, a fresh install of w98, added a $3 PCMCIA wireless card, with a hot spot running from my phone.
Even the battery that was made back in the mid to late 90's is holding a charge. I've owned countless phones in the last decade that can't say that.
I'm thoroughly enjoying reliving my retro years telneting around experincing BBS nostalgia from my couch and micro-laptop. I've had to dust off learnings from a few decades ago working with such an old os, but somehow I find it both relaxing and fun.
Here's to the late 90's.
This lovely image made me go up into the loft and get my little Dell
laptop down. It's not quite as old as I thought, though, with a Pentium
233 processor, and the hard drive seems to have died. Better order
myself another CF to 40 pin IDE adaptor, I think!
Here's to the late 90's.
Enjoy!
BobW
Nice. Took me a while to get my PCMCIA wireless card working. Now that I have that figured out, looking for a DOS style BBS client. mTelnet works until it crashes whenever I try to post a message. An older version of Putty works,2~ but doesn't have ZModem support...
Hope you get it running...
A pretty authentic 90s online experience, then :) Takes me back to
'95, having to swap between two "known good" copies of WINSOCK.DLL
depending on what I was trying to do that day...
Laugh, I remember doing that as well! I switched to OS/2 right around that time because it worked better.
Re: Re: Toshiba Libretto
By: Tiny to Bob Worm on Mon Nov 06 2023 06:18 am
Laugh, I remember doing that as well! I switched to OS/2 right aroun that time because it worked better.
I really wanted to see OS/2 overtake Windows, but by the mid-90s, I
think it was too late.
Shaggy wrote to All <=-
I've recently purchased and retro-modded a Toshiba Libretto from eBay.
It was listed as non-working, untetested. I added a IDE to CF card adapter, a fresh install of w98, added a $3 PCMCIA wireless card, with
a hot spot running from my phone. Even the battery that was made back
in the mid to late 90's is holding a charge. I've owned countless
phones in the last decade that can't say that.
Bob Worm wrote to Shaggy <=-
Serial to WiFi adaptor out of the question? Would probably double the footprint of a Libretto, though!
Tiny wrote to Bob Worm <=-
Laugh, I remember doing that as well! I switched to OS/2 right around that time because it worked better.
Yeah.. OS/2 Warp was basically Windows 2000 six years early..and sure enough by the time it got to Win2K service pack 2 or 3 I switched over to that
instead. The stability was just as good for me..
I kept trying to decide if I was going to say Windows 7 or XP was the last Windows I truly liked everything about the GUI.. but I hate them both lol. Win2K for life.
Xircom used to make a parallel to Ethernet adapter - was a good fraction
of the size of the Libretto! They finally came out with a CF card that worked with it, my user was much happier.
A pretty authentic 90s online experience, then :) Takes me back to '95, having to swap between two "known good" copies of WINSOCK.DLL depending
on what I was trying to do that day...
Yeah, I'll probably just cheat and install Linux on it. I have a couple
of PCMCIA WiFi cards around here somewhere, I just can't lay my hands on one right now - I'm not sure USB1.1 would really work for WiFi.
Nice! My company's CEO had one back in 1998 or so, loved getting to
configure/fix it for him. About that same time, I got an IBM workpad
Z50, a little 2/3s form factor thinkpad that ran Windows CE. Another
person in the company had a HP 200LX. Good times for small computers.
I did love OS/2, though. I started out running OS/2 1.3 on IBM PS/2s,
and could run a modem session, MS LAN Manager networking, Novell
networking, connect to a AS/400 over twinax, and run Word and Excel on
a system with a 386 and 8 MB of RAM.
I liked Win2K as well. But I did like Windows XP and Windows 7 too.. I kinda liked their UIs, though I did tend to disable the Windows Themes service and have the Windows UI look more like Win2K. I preferred not having so much resources taken by the UI. Though these days, I feel
like operating system UIs look too flat and uninteresting.
If there was a device back then with CE and the PSION
keyboard, that would've been better.
I think I might walk into my next meeting with the CIO and whip out my Libretto. See what his reaction is. :)
Need to find a FSE that works on linux for my WWIV BBS though...
I don't know why, but for me, WinXP feels like the best GUI experience
of any OS I've ever used. I loved XP. Perhaps it's just nostalgia but I really enjoyed using it and still like using it on one of my retro
builds.
Need to find a FSE that works on linux for my WWIV BBS though...
I had to Google that... I assume you mean "Full Screen Editor", rather than "Furry Search Engine", which is the first hit when you search for
Shaggy wrote to Poindexter Fortran <=-
I had a HP CE device, but was never impressed by how it was pokey slow
and hard to type on. If there was a device back then with CE and the PSION keyboard, that would've been better.
I think I might walk into my next meeting with the CIO and whip out my Libretto. See what his reaction is. :)
fusion wrote to Nightfox <=-
I kept trying to decide if I was going to say Windows 7 or XP was the
last Windows I truly liked everything about the GUI.. but I hate them
both lol. Win2K for life.
Bob Worm wrote to Shaggy <=-
Re: Re: Toshiba Libretto
By: Shaggy to Poindexter Fortran on Mon Nov 06 2023 23:45:44
Hi, Shaggy.
If there was a device back then with CE and the PSION
keyboard, that would've been better.
I have a series 5 up in the loft (this loft is starting to sound like
an Alladin's cave) but, as they often do, the display has stopped
working on it. I may revive it one day but I gather that's quite an expensive thing to do - I wonder if there's an IPS screen replacement
for those? That would be lovely :)
I really liked Psion's OS, as well. It's a shame they're not around any more :(
I think I might walk into my next meeting with the CIO and whip out my Libretto. See what his reaction is. :)
I was thinking of taking my Acorn A3020 with me to the datacentre the
next time I'm there. I imagine it might attract some odd looks sat on a crash trolley, especially if I started inserting 3.5" floppies into it.
In truth, I work on telecoms / networking kit so anything with a 9600
baud serial port is perfectly fine.
In fact that's how I found out the Psion was dead - I thought it would
be ideal as an ultra-portable serial terminal and got it out for that purpose.
Speaking of professional computing, another one of my permanently
shelved projects was to take my son's old Leapfrog Clickstart "My First Computer" and decode the IR coming out of the keyboard and mouse so
that it could be used as an input device on a "real" computer.
For those unfamiliar:
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2007/06/27/technology/28computer.600.jpg
I got some way into that project using a logic analyser but never got
to a working prototype. Anyway, I thought it would be pretty amazing to use as a daily runner, or at least to take into the office and to
pretend to use it as a daily runner...
We are an interesting group...
BobW
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I don't know why, but for me, WinXP feels like the best GUI experience of any OS I've ever used. I loved XP. Perhaps it's just nostalgia but I really enjoyed using it and still like using it on one of my retro builds.
I may need to spin up another XP nostalgia VM.
[...]Bob Worm wrote to Shaggy <=-
BobW
I really liked Psion's OS, as well. It's a shame they're not around any more :(
I had to Google that... I assume you mean "Full Screen Editor", rather
than "Furry Search Engine", which is the first hit when you search for
"FSE BBS"?
Or at least it is when I search for it... not sure what Google is trying
to tell me, there!
I think I might walk into my next meeting with the CIO and whip out
my
Libretto. See what his reaction is. :)
That would be awesome, especially if you plugged it into a desktop
projector and pulled out a powerpoint. It's got VGA out somewhere,
doesn't
it? Maybe on the dock?
It's funny to think of Windows XP as nostalgia now. I remember using XP when it was brand new and thinking it was pretty cool.
I don't know why, but for me, WinXP feels like the best GUI experience
of any OS I've ever used. I loved XP. Perhaps it's just nostalgia but I really enjoyed using it and still like using it on one of my retro
builds.
BTW - I want to see this loft! Seems like a treasure trove of nastalgic technology.
Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
It's funny to think of Windows XP as nostalgia now. I remember using
XP when it was brand new and thinking it was pretty cool.
It's funny to think of Windows XP as nostalgia now. I remember using XP
when it was brand new and thinking it was pretty cool.
You're not alone. I remember when we had to phase Windows XP out, and we had holdouts who preferred it to Windows 7.
I remember when we had to phase Windows XP out, and we
had holdouts who preferred it to Windows 7.
You're not alone. I remember when we had to phase Windows XP out, and we had holdouts who preferred it to Windows 7.
WinXP was OK, but after failed Vista I think W7 ultimately upgraded the original Windows experience to the maximum, before the've started
screwing again.
I just touched Win 11 today for the first time in my life, for 2 minutes and I switched back to Mac... W10 was OK again... not so much big difference to me after W7.. it only fixed w8 badness in all front,
nothing revolutionary and w11 is like poor's man macos with file
explorer + browser integration brought back to windows again....
Operating systems these days all have a more plain, flat UI. I feel
like it's like they don't put any thought or effort into making the UI look good anymore.
Operating systems these days all have a more plain, flat UI. I feel
like it's like they don't put any thought or effort into making the UI
look good anymore.
I do like some aspects of this. For example I use KDE Plasma as my DE on my daily driver linux laptop, and I love it. I have everything set to dark mode but beyond that most things are plain OOTB settings. It feels like a very natural and complete UX to me.
It's funny to think of Windows XP as nostalgia now. I remember using
XP when it was brand new and thinking it was pretty cool.
You're not alone. I remember when we had to phase Windows XP out, and we
had holdouts who preferred it to Windows 7.
I wasn't an XP holdout, as I liked WIndows 7 as well. But I think Windows XP was one of the best versions of Windows they produced.
Quoting Nightfox to Fusion <=-
preferred not having so much resources taken by the UI. Though these days, I feel like operating system UIs look too flat and
uninteresting.
100% agree. We can thank mobile devices for the idiotic UI's of desktop computers today. Ugh.
Operating systems these days all have a more plain, flat UI. I feel like it's like they don't put any thought or effort into making the U look good anymore.
I do like some aspects of this. For example I use KDE Plasma as my DE on my daily driver linux laptop, and I love it. I have everything set to
dark mode but beyond that most things are plain OOTB settings. It feels like a very natural and complete UX to me.
It's funny to think of Windows XP as nostalgia now. I remember usi
XP when it was brand new and thinking it was pretty cool.
You're not alone. I remember when we had to phase Windows XP out, anI wasn't an XP holdout, as I liked WIndows 7 as well. But I think Win XP was one of the best versions of Windows they produced.
had holdouts who preferred it to Windows 7.
100% agree. We can thank mobile devices for the idiotic UI's of desktop computers today. Ugh.
unc0nnected wrote to Ogg <=-
For me I was a windows 2000 holdout, I just couldn't get past how
bubbly and dumbed down XP felt after being with 2000 for a couple of
years so I stuck with that until Windows 7. Although compared to
Windows ME, XP was a dream come true.
Spectre wrote to Elf <=-
You can probably also add a decline in pooty sales to that too. The
long shop, (side of the road) has gotten very sparse in computers over
the last few years. I suspect the only main to groups still buying are corporate and game boys...
for my main desktop though, http://kirin.dcclost.com/~alex/fsx_rc.png
basically stripped to the bones :) and very much how i remember linux as
a sort of pick-and-choose random pile of software
The next thing I know, Windows 8 is being rolled out and it looks
exactly like the phone. Supposedly it's all geared around being able to use proper Windows on a touchscreen / tablet. Gross.
This message thread made me think about how I didn't mind Vista all
that much. It was a bit faster than 7, but the hardware at the time was
crap. I remember core 2 duos with 3 GB of RAM being high-end for home
use, and Vista could have used more - did more than XP did. Vista on a
SSD would have been a different story.
for my main desktop though, http://kirin.dcclost.com/~alex/fsx_rc.png
That's pretty cool. I've always had respect for Slackware, it was one of my original linux distros way back in the day. I had no idea there was
an OS/2 Warp DE :P
basically stripped to the bones :) and very much how i remember linux a sort of pick-and-choose random pile of software
Yeah, for a while I was going super minimal. I made an Openbox desktop with a panel and a right click menu and that was basically it. I enjoyed setting it up but it was missing some QOL features so I ended up just giving Plasma a shot. Turns out Plasma doesn't eat up much more RAM than running a super minimal Openbox, so... *shrug* here I am hehe
This reminds me of the Enlightenment window manager for linux. E back in the day was sharp, and I really liked it and found it to be a standout. Then, they made design decisions to prepare it for mobile computing, and that really changed the trajectory of the look and feel of E. It changed
Quoting Spectre to Elf <=-
You can probably also add a decline in pooty sales to that too. The
long shop, (side of the road) has gotten very sparse in computers over
the last few years. I suspect the only main to groups still buying are corporate and game boys...
If pooty sales are slowly going down the tube, then its probably not
worth dollar wise putting the effort into making them pretty.
E reminded me of Litestep for Windows. I started using it looking for a lower-overhead environment for my BBS, and ended up endlessly tweaking
it to make a custom environment for my laptop. I wish I could find the theme I had, I loved it, but ended up spending more time tweaking it
than using my laptop. :)
esc wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
That's how I was for a long time :P Now I just settle into comfy KDE Plasma and call it a day.
Quoting Bob Worm to Elf <=-
100% agree. We can thank mobile devices for the idiotic UI's of desktop computers today. Ugh.
Yes, I remember being given a Windows mobile for work. An authentic Windows experience, it spent the first afternoon applying patches
before I could even use it and would occasionally reboot just before a
key meeting to install updates as well... That had the "new", "modern" tiled appearance.
The next thing I know, Windows 8 is being rolled out and it looks
exactly like the phone. Supposedly it's all geared around being able
to use proper Windows on a touchscreen / tablet. Gross.
I spent the next 6 months ignoring ever grumpier e-mails from IT
telling me I needed to be "upgraded" to Windows 8. Eventually I
managed to inherit a Mac from someone else who left the company and
then ultimately resigned myself. I've still not had to face the
prospect of working on any version above 7.
Quoting Blue White to Spectre <=-
That last bit has come to light now that the systems are being
upgraded to be all point and click. The new user hires don't know how
to do even that.
But, I found myself fixing too many things too many times. But what I
loved about it, is buttons were clearly buttons, borders around windows clearly were visible, etc. I like having an interface I can see. :-)
But, I found myself fixing too many things too many times. But what I loved
about it, is buttons were clearly buttons, borders around windows clearly
were visible, etc. I like having an interface I can see. :-)
This is why I switched from Linux as a daily OS to Mac - everything just works and I still have a proper shell. Except some very nerdy stuff where I need to fall back to Linux, which I can do by tunneling X Windows through SSH.
I've used Mac OS before, mostly for work, and in my experience, not everything just works all the time. I use Linux Mint at home for my BBS PC (I also run Plex Media Server on it), and things have pretty much always worked there for me. Even upgrades to new versions of the OS have always gone fairly smoothly.
Yeah, I will admit that upgrading my iMac to Big Sur absolutely screwed it. The in-place upgrade completely failed to the point where it couldn't boot and a from-scratch install was basically unusable. I legitimately
In retrospect, I think I spent as much time tweaking OS/2 config.sys
files trying to get drivers to load correctly as I did running
trying to eke out a little more RAM out of DOS.
Tiny wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
In retrospect, I think I spent as much time tweaking OS/2 config.sys
files trying to get drivers to load correctly as I did running
trying to eke out a little more RAM out of DOS.
Probably but it was more fun. LOL
But, I found myself fixing too many things too many times. But what
I loved about it, is buttons were clearly buttons, borders around
windows clearly were visible, etc. I like having an interface I can
see. :-)
This is why I switched from Linux as a daily OS to Mac - everything
just works and I still have a proper shell. Except some very nerdy
stuff where I need to fall back to Linux, which I can do by tunneling
X Windows through SSH.
The GUI elements are very consistent on Mac so they look like what
they are to me, possibly I've just got used to them. I don't miss the window borders, they remind me of clunky old Windows versions and for
me they're wasted space - I do get annoyed by the rounded corners on
Mac Windows, though - sometimes it eats into the content of the window which is... kind of unforgivable!
For some strange reason I'm fascinated by the way screen grabbing a
full window also grabs the window's shadow, complete with alpha
channel. It does look nice when you put the image into documentation, though.
telnet://bbs.roonsbbs.hu:1212 <<=-
When compared to Windows at the time, it was amazing - once you got it
up and running. I ran Maximus and Frontdoor on my desktop and barely
noticed it running in the background. It took years for Windows to
catch up to that.
Tiny wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
True. I think Windows XP SP2 is around where it caught up enough that
you could run a BBS in the background without really noticing it. At least it was the first version of Windows I could use to run a BBS.
This reminds me of the Enlightenment window manager for linux. E back in the day was sharp, and I really liked it and found it to be a standout.
Laugh, I remember doing that as well! I switched to OS/2 right around that time because it worked better.I did too, ran OS/2 for my bbsing and sysop needs with dialup at that time.. I use Mac as my daily driver and only have Win11 in Parallels for those things that needs full blown Windows otherwise for the odd Windows game I play through Crossover.
I really wanted to see OS/2 overtake Windows, but by the mid-90s, I
think it was too late.
Quoting Utopian Galt to All <=-
I am thinking about buying an OS/2 licence since Windows 10 will not
be officially supported.
Do internet old school like a generation ago.
Utopian Galt wrote to All <=-
I am thinking about buying an OS/2 licence since Windows 10 will not be officially supported.
Cougar428 wrote to UTOPIAN GALT <=-
I run OS/2 on an older IBM P90. I tried adding a network card and the
TCP/IP stack to get it on a network so I could try what you mentioned.
What a mistake that was. Screwed up the system pretty bad. Had issues
even getting it to boot after that. Had to do a re-install from Red
Spine disk to get it working again.
I am thinking about buying an OS/2 licence since Windows 10 will not be officially supported.
Do internet old school like a generation ago.
Utopian Galt wrote to Nightfox <=-
Its for DOS support. I could mess around with older software :)
Its for DOS support. I could mess around with older software :)
It truly was a better DOS than DOS. It multitasked DOS windows smoothly, lots of free memory, and you could even create a virtual DOS environment with "real" DOS 6.22.
Guess there's always Linux.OS/2 AND LINUX GANG!!!!
Co-Pilot is the reason why I am stopping my subscription to Microsoft Office. Will use Libre Office.BASED!!!
Utopian Galt wrote to Nightfox <=-
Its for DOS support. I could mess around with older software :)
It truly was a better DOS than DOS. It multitasked DOS windows smoothly, lots of free memory, and you could even create a virtual DOS environment with "real" DOS 6.22.
Back in the 90s, I ran the BBS on DOS, ran OS/2 on my desktop, and used LANTastic networking. They didn't have an OS/2 client, so I created a
DOS VDM with MS-DOS and the drivers, and had a DOS window that could
talk to the BBS.
Quoting Mary4 to Cougar428 <=-
Guess there's always Linux.
OS/2 AND LINUX GANG!!!!
Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
It truly was a better DOS than DOS. It multitasked DOS windows smoothly, lots of free memory, and you could even create a virtual DOS environment with "real" DOS 6.22.
As in MS-DOS 6.22? As OS/2 was an IBM product, I thought it would be
more equivalent to IBM's PC-DOS?
The duffus John Smith said to the geek Sam Uzi <=-
it is the ONLY true 32-bit multi-threaded pre-emptive multi-tasking
OS around.
...except for every single OS around that was written for non-Intel
CPUs.
All the neat shit that people claim for the latest hottest Intel
-- the stuff in your quote there -- is stuff that has always
been pretty much standard in the Motorola and Risc worlds.
It truly was a better DOS than
DOS. It multitasked DOS windows
smoothly,
lots of free memory, and you could
With OS/2, you could create virtual DOS machines, akin to a virtual machine nowadays. They would create a virtual machine, booting from a DOS image, and inside that window you'd be running DOS natively, with the ability to have separate config.sys and autoexec.bat files. from a disk image created from a DOS boot disk, and have an environment that was 100% DOS. The "Better DOS than DOS", if you will.
You could boot any DOS that way, if you needed a specific brand or version of DOS. The DOS prompt in OS/2 was pretty good, I gotta say - the only time I preferred it was when I had an application that needed DOS-only drivers.
My board used to have a message base just for tech flame posts. We had lots of OS/2 versus Amiga arguments on the board, sort of like watching two kids fighting it out to see who's the baddest ass in the Physics club.
- Area: nirvana.tech.flame ---------------------------------------------------
Msg#: 95
Date: 20 Jul 94 12:31:00
From: SAM UZI
To: JOHN SMITH
Subj: OS from heaven ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
The duffus John Smith said to the geek Sam Uzi <=-
it is the ONLY true 32-bit multi-threaded pre-emptive multi-tasking
OS around.
...except for every single OS around that was written for non-Intel CPUs.
All the neat shit that people claim for the latest hottest Intel
-- the stuff in your quote there -- is stuff that has always
been pretty much standard in the Motorola and Risc worlds.
sure, whatever... but OS/2 is THE BEST Operating System in the world,
can run circles around anything else, and it looks nicer, and will cook
your breakfast for you, and make your coffee, and has 3D-bordered
icons, and is nifty, and looks cool, and is True-Blue, and can run DOS better than DOS, and will take out the garbage, and will get you chicks,
and has got a 438 Hemi duo-blaster twin quad super injection turbo
...
Ah, that's cool. I used OS/2 a bit but didn't play with the DOS VM stuff that in-depth. I did try running my original DOS BBS (using RemoteAccess) i OS/2. I had downloaded Ray Gwynn's serial telnet driver for OS/2 and was abl to telnet to my RemoteAccess BBS. I was only experimenting with that though and still only had that BBS set up for dialup.
Yeah, it was pretty freaking cool at the time. There are even things
about ArcaOS desktop that work pretty well. It ran the sh$t out of DOS, and was 32-Bit!
I installed once ArcaOS on a VM, curious about OS/2 experience which I neve had in the past. But it was slacky and a bit clunky to me. I could not find myself in that environment. I believe if a lot of time was dedicated to the
Compared to what we have today, yes, it is a bit clunky, but in the
90sit was 20 years a head of it's time.
Compared to what we have today, yes, it is a bit clunky, but in the 90sit was 20 years a head of it's time.
You mean working like up to 2010 expectations? Bold assumption considering we had quite matured up OSX and Windows 7 back then :)
In the US, "# of years ahead of its time" is usually a turn-of-phrase and not meant literally.
Dumas Walker wrote to HOLLOWONE <=-
That said, at the time OS/2 came out, it probably did seem futuristic, much like the first black-and-white MACs did. ;)
Presentation Manager on OS/2 2.0 was pretty wild, too - a context-based, object-oriented UI was ahead of the pack at the time.
Sometimes I wonder where we'd be today if OS/2 had become the dominant OS PCs. Or maybe even BeOS, though they initially started with their own PowerPC-based computers, and by the time they ported BeOS to x86, it was probably too late. I thought BeOS had some crazy multi-tasking though, an liked its UI - it was simple and looked like a piece of art.
Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Sometimes I wonder where we'd be today if OS/2 had become the dominant
OS for PCs. Or maybe even BeOS, though they initially started with
their own PowerPC-based computers, and by the time they ported BeOS to x86, it was probably too late. I thought BeOS had some crazy multi-tasking though, and I liked its UI - it was simple and looked
like a piece of art.
Nightfox
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The problem with OS/2 was that it had a full services arm behind it. I often wondered if it wasn't as easy to use/install because IBM was expecting to have the customer to have a service contract with IBM.
I don't think it was until the internet came out that people really cared about multi-tasking; before that, Windows was really more of a UI for most people to run one GUI app at a time.
Did they? I remember buying a boxed copy of OS/2 at my local Egghead Software and installing it and using it on my PC without a problem. I didn't need to have a service contract with IBM.
I don't think it was until the internet came out that people really ca
about multi-tasking; before that, Windows was really more of a UI for
people to run one GUI app at a time.
I bought OS/2 Warp to run my Wildcat v4 bbs on. It ran great. My problem was when I tried to upgrade to OS/2 v4, my mouse wouldn't work. I called IBM and they wanted to charge me to get it working. I dropped OS/2 and went to Desqview.
Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Re: Re: OS/2
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Fri Jun 20 2025 07:28 am
The problem with OS/2 was that it had a full services arm behind it. I often wondered if it wasn't as easy to use/install because IBM was expecting to have the customer to have a service contract with IBM.
Did they? I remember buying a boxed copy of OS/2 at my local Egghead Software and installing it and using it on my PC without a problem. I didn't need to have a service contract with IBM.
I don't think it was until the internet came out that people really cared about multi-tasking; before that, Windows was really more of a UI for most people to run one GUI app at a time.
Still, there could be software running in the background, and without
good multi-tasking, the system could be unstable.
Nightfox
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ogg wrote to Nightfox <=-
I bought OS/2 Warp to run my Wildcat v4 bbs on. It ran great. My
problem was when I tried to upgrade to OS/2 v4, my mouse wouldn't work.
I called IBM and they wanted to charge me to get it working. I
dropped OS/2 and went to Desqview.
But, OS/2 had its moment. Loved the multitasking, and running OS/2 BBS
binaries (Maximus, Squish and BinkleyTerm) was amazing. They ran in a
minimized window on my OS/2 desktop and I barely noticed they were
running.
It was the multitasking that attracted me to it. Once I was using dos and Desqview, I never looked back.
I don't see how .... the BBS always bled thru DESQview. Couldn't really do what I needed in another window with it, which led me to OS/2 2.1,
the OS/2 v3 WARP which allowed me to be telnetable back in 1995.
I ran my bbs on OS/2 v3 without an issue. The problem came in with OS/2 v4 That's when I move backed to DOS and DESQ/view.
I ran on Warp V3 Connect for years. When I moved into my 1st apartment,
I saw on egghead.com they have OS/2 Warp v4.0 for $1.88 .... it was an obvious mistype on te webpage, but they sent it. Best deal I ever got. Warp v4 was a different breed. It never did want to install correctly.
It was the multitasking that attracted me to it. Once I was using dos Desqview, I never looked back.
I don't see how .... the BBS always bled thru DESQview. Couldn't really d what I needed in another window with it, which led me to OS/2 2.1, the OS/ WARP which allowed me to be telnetable back in 1995.
back up and running. I've got a full box set of v3 and v4 still on my boo shelf. What to do....
When you say 'bled thru' do you mean the video bled through?
If yes, then that sounds like the virtual terminal settings in advanced
...and used LANTastic networking.
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