• Hyperland TWM?

    From paulie420@1337:3/129 to All on Thu Jul 6 18:39:06 2023
    Has anyone played around w/ Hyprland just yet? Its another tiling window manager that has some focuses on fancy animations combined with text elements. Configuration is done in text .conf files and its the 'new kid on the block'...













    It looks pretty neat, I'm thinking of spinning it up on my NixOS machine.



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  • From MeaTLoTioN@1337:1/101 to paulie420 on Fri Jul 7 14:19:08 2023
    On 06 Jul 2023, paulie420 said the following...

    Has anyone played around w/ Hyprland just yet? Its another tiling window manager that has some focuses on fancy animations combined with text elements. Configuration is done in text .conf files and its the 'new kid on the block'...

    I've heard of it, Brodie Robertson uses it I believe, it's kinda similar to Sway?
    I'll look into it, if it works with Nvidia well I might have a play with.

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  • From hollowone@1337:3/129 to paulie420 on Fri Jul 7 06:52:26 2023
    Has anyone played around w/ Hyprland just yet? Its another tiling window manager that has some focuses on fancy animations combined with text elements. Configuration is done in text .conf files and its the 'new kid on the block'...

    I'm still in Weston vs. i3 debate in my recent Raspbian Lite development.
    But I love the videos with Hyprland and once I catch-up with the modern linux window management tactics, perhaps I'll be ready to give it a test.

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  • From paulie420@1337:3/129 to MeaTLoTioN on Fri Jul 7 21:19:14 2023
    Has anyone played around w/ Hyprland just yet? Its another tiling win manager that has some focuses on fancy animations combined with text elements. Configuration is done in text .conf files and its the 'new on the block'...

    I've heard of it, Brodie Robertson uses it I believe, it's kinda similar to Sway?
    I'll look into it, if it works with Nvidia well I might have a play with.

    I liked herbstluft - but for no 'good' reason.. as you know, I still haven't found a TWM that I can live with... but I'm still on nano, and all. :P



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  • From MeaTLoTioN@1337:1/101 to paulie420 on Sat Jul 8 20:52:41 2023
    I liked herbstluft - but for no 'good' reason.. as you know, I still haven't found a TWM that I can live with... but I'm still on nano, and all. :P

    Yeah yeah, we definitely need to work on getting you all VI'd and VIM'd up! =)

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  • From paulie420@1337:3/129 to MeaTLoTioN on Sat Jul 8 17:35:14 2023
    I liked herbstluft - but for no 'good' reason.. as you know, I still haven't found a TWM that I can live with... but I'm still on nano, an all. :P

    Yeah yeah, we definitely need to work on getting you all VI'd and VIM'd up! =)

    I just had to use it today b/c a legacy nix install - and I struggled to remember "I" and :w :q. :P



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  • From hollowone@1337:3/129 to paulie420 on Sun Jul 9 13:24:33 2023
    Yeah yeah, we definitely need to work on getting you all VI'd and VIM up! =)

    Meh.. I was more emacs guy in the past, but this days more used to VSCode setup









    and being lazy ass big time.

    Nevertheless I test TUI linux experience on RPI 3B+ for last couple of days. Without VIM/EMACS raw experience, is there any app worth considering as TUI IDE









    + file manager + cli/terminal integration?

    I just installed micro, but it seems like a lot of config is required to let it









    shine. Anything that works out of the box like VSCode does, but in terminal mode?

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  • From MeaTLoTioN@1337:1/101 to paulie420 on Sun Jul 9 22:47:43 2023
    I just had to use it today b/c a legacy nix install - and I struggled to remember "I" and :w :q. :P

    omgosh! I have the opposite problem I guess then, in everything that has text input I'm always hitting ESC followed by I to type something, and always wanna end the "thing" with :wq! :rolflmao:

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  • From paulie420@1337:3/129 to MeaTLoTioN on Sun Jul 9 18:29:04 2023
    I just had to use it today b/c a legacy nix install - and I struggled remember "I" and :w :q. :P

    omgosh! I have the opposite problem I guess then, in everything that has text input I'm always hitting ESC followed by I to type something, and always wanna end the "thing" with :wq! :rolflmao:

    I do like the idea of having a Zoom vim meetup. I do wanna learn it one day - I








    know how powerful vim/vi can be if you know what yer doing... and then a whole other world if you use plugins and whatnot.

    One day, one day... :P



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  • From MeaTLoTioN@1337:1/101 to paulie420 on Mon Jul 10 09:09:57 2023
    I do like the idea of having a Zoom vim meetup. I do wanna learn it one day - I know how powerful vim/vi can be if you know what yer doing...
    and then a whole other world if you use plugins and whatnot.

    For sure that would be awesome, although I would probably use Jitsi or Matrix/Element for the video chat :P

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  • From Roon@1337:1/112 to paulie420 on Mon Jul 10 21:37:24 2023
    Hello paulie420,

    09 Jul 23 18:29, you wrote to MeaTLoTioN:

    I just had to use it today b/c a legacy nix install - and I
    struggled remember "I" and :w :q. :P

    omgosh! I have the opposite problem I guess then, in everything
    that has text input I'm always hitting ESC followed by I to type
    something, and always wanna end the "thing" with :wq! :rolflmao:

    I do like the idea of having a Zoom vim meetup. I do wanna learn it
    one day - I know how powerful vim/vi can be if you know what yer
    doing... and then a whole other world if you use plugins and whatnot.

    One day, one day... :P

    i recommend this book to learn vim: https://www.amazon.com/Practical-Vim-Edit-Speed-Thought/dp/1680501275

    i use a plain vim everywhere, no plugins whatever, because i am using it on every machine i use/administer (approx. ~50) and i don't like to depend on things i have to install this many times :)

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  • From paulie420@1337:3/129 to MeaTLoTioN on Mon Jul 10 19:43:42 2023
    I do like the idea of having a Zoom vim meetup.

    For sure that would be awesome, although I would probably use Jitsi or Matrix/Element for the video chat :P

    Of course, of course. :P Jitsi is really nice - many ppl don't know that its just as good as Zoom ever was. Theres been a 'movement' of nix fans simply sharing Jitsi links instead of Zoom and have been met with... customers, associates and employees that still join the calls. :P Who woulda known??



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  • From paulie420@1337:3/129 to Roon on Mon Jul 10 19:44:50 2023
    i recommend this book to learn vim: https://www.amazon.com/Practical-Vim-Edit-Speed-Thought/dp/1680501275

    i use a plain vim everywhere, no plugins whatever, because i am using it on every machine i use/administer (approx. ~50) and i don't like to
    depend on things i have to install this many times :)

    Thanks for the link, Roon - I will take a gander. I know that I should (need) to learn vi/vim at some point... once users get over the hump I know theres power to be had there.

    Its just hard to teach an old dog new tricks - I should of started on vim forever... ugh.



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@1337:3/178 to MeaTLoTioN on Tue Jul 11 07:18:00 2023
    MeaTLoTioN wrote to paulie420 <=-

    I do like the idea of having a Zoom vim meetup. I do wanna learn it one day - I know how powerful vim/vi can be if you know what yer doing...
    and then a whole other world if you use plugins and whatnot.

    For sure that would be awesome, although I would probably use Jitsi or Matrix/Element for the video chat :P

    Sign me up for that - I've been working more with a shell, vim and tmux
    than I ever did before,and I'd love to learn in realtime.




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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@1337:3/178 to Roon on Tue Jul 11 07:20:00 2023
    Roon wrote to paulie420 <=-

    i use a plain vim everywhere, no plugins whatever, because i am using
    it on every machine i use/administer (approx. ~50) and i don't like to depend on things i have to install this many times :)

    I'd like a .vimrc I could take with me to customize colors, otherwise
    vanilla vim seems to do everything I need. Word wrapping and formatting
    is still a challenge for me, I'm trying to replace nano for writing text documents.



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  • From esc@1337:3/169 to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Jul 11 14:15:20 2023
    I'd like a .vimrc I could take with me to customize colors, otherwise vanilla vim seems to do everything I need. Word wrapping and formatting
    is still a challenge for me, I'm trying to replace nano for writing text documents.

    Vanilla vim is what I primarily use as well, but the reasons are mainly because







    when I use vim on a shared computer (pretty frequently with SRE shaped work) any sort of personalization/customization is frowned upon. So I got used to the







    defaults and they work well enough for me. :P

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  • From MeaTLoTioN@1337:1/101 to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Jul 14 06:23:31 2023
    On 11 Jul 2023, poindexter FORTRAN said the following...

    Sign me up for that - I've been working more with a shell, vim and tmux than I ever did before,and I'd love to learn in realtime.

    For sure, I'm no expert on vi/vim by any stretch of the imagination, but what I




    have already learned and have muscle memory for, I am happy to share.

    Using vi/vim in the terminal as your only text editor will definitely help you build up your muscle memory too =)

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  • From deon@1337:2/101 to MeaTLoTioN on Fri Jul 14 16:51:00 2023
    Re: Re: Hyperland TWM?
    By: MeaTLoTioN to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Jul 14 2023 06:23 am

    For sure, I'm no expert on vi/vim by any stretch of the imagination, but what I have already learned and have muscle memory for, I am happy to share.

    So there was a mailing list that used to send out a tip every week or so. Now that I think about it, havent seen anything from it in quite some time.

    I'm a vi fan (no emacs for me) - I would be surprised to learn that I only use 1% of its functionality... :)


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  • From candycane@1337:3/150 to deon on Fri Aug 4 00:58:19 2023
    Re: Re: Hyperland TWM?
    By: deon to MeaTLoTioN on Fri Jul 14 2023 04:51 pm

    Re: Re: Hyperland TWM?
    By: MeaTLoTioN to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Jul 14 2023 06:23 am

    For sure, I'm no expert on vi/vim by any stretch of the imagination,
    but what I have already learned and have muscle memory for, I am happy
    to share.

    So there was a mailing list that used to send out a tip every week or so. Now that I think about it, havent seen anything from it in quite some time.

    I'm a vi fan (no emacs for me) - I would be surprised to learn that I only use 1% of its functionality... :)


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  • From MeaTLoTioN@1337:1/101 to paulie420 on Tue Sep 3 13:36:16 2024
    On 07 Jul 2023, MeaTLoTioN said the following...

    On 06 Jul 2023, paulie420 said the following...

    Has anyone played around w/ Hyprland just yet? Its another tiling win manager that has some focuses on fancy animations combined with text elements. Configuration is done in text .conf files and its the 'new on the block'...

    I've heard of it, Brodie Robertson uses it I believe, it's kinda similar to Sway?
    I'll look into it, if it works with Nvidia well I might have a play with.

    UPDATE:
    I've now been using hyprland for the last 6 months or so full time, switched from i3(Xorg) -> Sway(Wayland) -> hyprland and omgosh I haven't enjoyed using a computer as much since the good ol' days of DOS lol.

    If anyone fancies trying out a dynamic tiling window manager, honesstly hyprland is one of the best there is (if not the best (imho)).

    I have an Nvidia RTX 2060 GPU using the open dkms, upto nvidia 560 now I believe. Zero issues, runs everything I throw at it (well so far).

    Has anyone else tried to use hyprland? If so what are your thoughts? If not, do you think you'll give it a try?

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  • From paulie420@1337:3/129 to MeaTLoTioN on Tue Sep 3 17:28:19 2024
    UPDATE:
    I've now been using hyprland for the last 6 months or so full time, switched from i3(Xorg) -> Sway(Wayland) -> hyprland and omgosh I haven't enjoyed using a computer as much since the good ol' days of DOS lol.

    Has anyone else tried to use hyprland? If so what are your thoughts? If not, do you think you'll give it a try?

    You know that I've both built Hyprland setups and used a few decent themes. I HAD liked soldoestech's hyprv4 - but theres a new collection named Hypr-Dots that are pretty cool.

    I know you always make a mL setup - how do you have it customized??? Shared your ~/.config/hyprland???

    Glad you like it - I go back and forth between wanting a full WM and Hypr.



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  • From MeaTLoTioN@1337:1/201 to paulie420 on Thu Sep 5 22:50:47 2024

    On 03/09/2024 10:28 paulie420 said...

    You know that I've both built Hyprland setups and used a few decent themes. I HAD liked soldoestech's hyprv4 - but theres a new collection named Hypr-Dots that are pretty cool.

    I've never tried to use anyone else's config to be honest, it does seem like an easy way to make different themes for it.

    I know you always make a mL setup - how do you have it customized???

    Hmm well I guess it's mostly stock, I've installed waybar and customised that a little but not too much, the main customisations are the bindings I've set and the scripts that the bindings call for various tasks like screen shots and to make the background change etc.

    Shared your ~/.config/hyprland???

    I haven't shared my hyprland config no, I mean I could... would probably have to make some alterations to remove stuff that wouldn't make sense for anyone else... but remind me on next TGT and I will flip to the desktop view and you can see what it looks like.

    Glad you like it - I go back and forth between wanting a full WM and Hypr.

    Mate I love it, it just make sense. I mean, using any twm would make more sense for my use case and work flow, but I'm really getting used to and even have fallen in love with dynamic tiling, coming from sway/i3 which is manual tiling.

    I look at all these (bloated) desktop environments coming out like cosmic and kde plasma et al, and although on the face of them they look quite pretty, I'm just not a window clicker, and prefer running stuff from the keyboard. It just makes much more sense for me to use a tiler. I know cosmic has tiling in it, but it's not the same. Not to me anyway.



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  • From paulie420@1337:3/129 to MeaTLoTioN on Thu Sep 5 19:15:02 2024
    I look at all these (bloated) desktop environments coming out like
    cosmic and kde plasma et al, and although on the face of them they look quite pretty, I'm just not a window clicker, and prefer running stuff
    from the keyboard. It just makes much more sense for me to use a tiler.
    I know cosmic has tiling in it, but it's not the same. Not to me anyway.

    I agree - but users must be aware that they have to install solutions for things that they might not know how to manage... power management, sleep, hibernate, etc.

    Can be done - but for users coming directly off full WMs it is a challenge.



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  • From MeaTLoTioN@1337:1/201 to paulie420 on Fri Sep 6 07:00:18 2024

    On 05/09/2024 12:15 paulie420 said...
    I agree - but users must be aware that they have to install solutions for things that they might not know how to manage... power management, sleep, hibernate, etc.

    Can be done - but for users coming directly off full WMs it is a challenge.

    Oh for sure, but stuff like power management, sleep/hibernate, etc aren't necessarily things related to a DE or TWM, per se, but they're things that are more OS level stuff. Those coming from a full DE to a TWM I'm sure would love the challenge, that's where the fun is! (imho)

    I have scripts of my own that set power management levels changing from performance to eco or whatever, I don't use sleep/hibernate mind you so I haven't ever even thought about making a script fo those.

    I think DE's are good for beginners who don't yet want to tinker, and power users alike, and a TWM is more aimed at the tinkerers/power users, and because of that the user would likely be at least aware of these things that are needed to be done "differently".

    I love shell scripting, so of course I took great pleasure in making my system do the things I want and how I want with scripts and bindings, but not everyone is a tinkerer/power user so DE's exist to handle all that for those who don't tinker I guess.

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  • From Rotorek@1337:3/129 to paulie420 on Fri Sep 27 04:36:37 2024
    Hi Paulie,

    I tried to install it locally, but got an empty background after log-in. Suppose, you need to config it prior to general use. So, I've just deinstalled it and returned to my recent wm.

    But, I'm willing giving it a try in the future.

    Rotorek

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  • From MeaTLoTioN@1337:1/101 to Rotorek on Fri Sep 27 14:50:38 2024
    On 27 Sep 2024, Rotorek said the following...

    I tried to install it locally, but got an empty background after log-in. Suppose, you need to config it prior to general use. So, I've just deinstalled it and returned to my recent wm.

    You should be able to copy the example config over to create a blank canvas on, that should get you started. hyprland is definitely the best twm I've ever used, and I can't go back to i3/sway now lol.

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  • From paulie420@1337:3/129 to Rotorek on Fri Sep 27 21:14:31 2024
    I tried to install it locally, but got an empty background after log-in. Suppose, you need to config it prior to general use. So, I've just deinstalled it and returned to my recent wm.

    But, I'm willing giving it a try in the future.

    You'll want to install package kitty - the terminal that it uses. After boot you can press Super-M or Super-Q (I think???) to open terminal or quit.

    There are several Hyprland themes you can install that quickly give you a full setup - or, you can code your own. Its not for everyone - you will get down and dirty and have to code your complete setup, helper apps and infrastructure; but for some of us its the only way to go. :P



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  • From MeaTLoTioN@1337:1/101 to paulie420 on Sun Sep 29 00:01:46 2024
    On 27 Sep 2024, paulie420 said the following...

    I tried to install it locally, but got an empty background after log- Suppose, you need to config it prior to general use. So, I've just deinstalled it and returned to my recent wm.

    But, I'm willing giving it a try in the future.

    You'll want to install package kitty - the terminal that it uses. After boot you can press Super-M or Super-Q (I think???) to open terminal or quit.

    Ah yeah kitty, I forgot that is what it uses, I used that anyway so I didn't have to "install it" as a dependent as was already what I installed to use anyway lol.

    There are several Hyprland themes you can install that quickly give you
    a full setup - or, you can code your own. Its not for everyone - you
    will get down and dirty and have to code your complete setup, helper
    apps and infrastructure; but for some of us its the only way to go. :P

    Yes, the themes can be useful, but I personally built mine from the ground up, that way you only have what you need lol, it's all very organic but then it should be right? I love that I can build everything I want to make my system exactly mine and unique.

    hyprland ftw!

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