• ProxMox...

    From Bucko@1337:3/102 to All on Thu Dec 2 21:22:20 2021
    Wow! Just started playing with this, learning curve is a bit steep, still trying to figure out some things, but damn using a VM from it of my main computer system in Windows to dial out.. Next is getting my BBS' on it and shutting down hopefully 3 seperate computers..

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  • From MeaTLoTioN@1337:1/101 to Bucko on Fri Dec 3 10:14:53 2021
    On 02 Dec 2021, Bucko said the following...

    Wow! Just started playing with this, learning curve is a bit steep, still trying to figure out some things, but damn using a VM from it of my main computer system in Windows to dial out.. Next is getting my BBS' on it
    and shutting down hopefully 3 seperate computers..

    Man I love ProxMox, I use it on 3 of my own hypervisors. If there's anything you need to know or need help on, if I am able to help, I'd be glad to offer it.

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  • From Bucko@1337:3/102 to MeaTLoTioN on Fri Dec 3 07:42:55 2021
    On 03 Dec 2021, MeaTLoTioN said the following...


    Man I love ProxMox, I use it on 3 of my own hypervisors. If there's anything you need to know or need help on, if I am able to help, I'd be glad to offer it.

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    Thanks dude. Appreciate it.. Started it all over from scratch last night, created a new vhdx of my main computer and now am copying it to my zfs networked drive. Once done with that I will convert it to qcow2 format, and hopefully have it boot up. If so, then I can start moving my KVM VM's from my BBS machine over to it. Hopefully all 5 VM's will play nice together and not bog down the machine, it shouldn't as it is i7, 3.6ghz with 8 cores. We'll see.. LOL I might take you up on that offer of help if needed.

    Thanks again...

    AL

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  • From deon@1337:2/101 to MeaTLoTioN on Sat Dec 4 00:44:34 2021
    Re: Re: ProxMox...
    By: MeaTLoTioN to Bucko on Fri Dec 03 2021 10:14 am

    On 02 Dec 2021, Bucko said the following...

    Wow! Just started playing with this, learning curve is a bit steep,
    still trying to figure out some things, but damn using a VM
    Man I love ProxMox, I use it on 3 of my own hypervisors. If there's anything
















































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































    you need to know or need help on, if I am able to help,
    I'd be glad to offer it.

    I tried ProxMox many, many years ago and only for a short time. I was checking it out, but coming from a VMware background it didnt stick with me. Must admit I do like VMware and I pretty much put it on anything that it'll run on. Loving
















































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































    that I have it on the Pi4's. ;)

    (I have a QNAP which I installed TrueNAS on - and upgraded it this weekend, when I came across a post that it somebody installed VMware on it - and I'm tempted.)

    When I get some time, I should give Proxmox another go, its probably come a long way since I played with it.


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  • From paulie420@1337:3/129 to MeaTLoTioN on Fri Dec 3 18:32:12 2021
    Man I love ProxMox, I use it on 3 of my own hypervisors. If there's anything you need to know or need help on, if I am able to help, I'd be glad to offer it.

    I got a Prox question - altho you've already told me you don't VM any GUI type systems;

    Whats the best way to USE, oh... say a Windoze 10 VM? VNC, RDP?? The Proxmox uses that VNC via WWW solution - but theres no sound... on some Linux shells I used to use... not VNC, but some X... something.

    I have a Kali Linux VM, a Windows 10 VM and a Debian w/ WM - all the rest are fine over SSH but... how do folks use GUI VMs?



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  • From Bucko@1337:3/102 to paulie420 on Sat Dec 4 07:14:35 2021
    On 03 Dec 2021, paulie420 said the following...


    Whats the best way to USE, oh... say a Windoze 10 VM? VNC, RDP?? The Proxmox uses that VNC via WWW solution - but theres no sound... on some Linux shells I used to use... not VNC, but some X... something.


    When I had a VM working with it the other day (Haven't been able to get my Daily computer qcow2'd and working) I used RDP to get into it and it was like sitting at the real computer, the built in VNC setup although good for quick hits, is laggy and the cursor dragging will drive a person nuts...

    Probably not the answer..

    AL

    ... A PC a day keeps the Apple away!

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  • From MeaTLoTioN@1337:1/202 to paulie420 on Sat Dec 4 20:14:23 2021
    Whats the best way to USE, oh... say a Windoze 10 VM? VNC, RDP?? The Proxmoxuses that VNC via WWW solution - but theres no sound... on some Linux shells Iused to use... not VNC, but some X... something.

    I would use VNC, you can set up this by doing; https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/VNC_Client_Access

    This is what you need =)

    Hope it helps.

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  • From paulie420@1337:3/129 to MeaTLoTioN/Bucko on Sun Dec 5 17:01:52 2021
    Whats the best way to USE, oh... say a Windoze 10 VM? VNC, RDP?? The Proxmoxuses that VNC via WWW solution - but theres no sound... on som Linux shells Iused to use... not VNC, but some X... something.

    I would use VNC, you can set up this by doing; https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/VNC_Client_Access

    This is what you need =)
    Hope it helps.

    I used RDP to get into it and it was like sitting at the real computer,
    the built in VNC setup although good for quick hits, is laggy and the Bu>
    cursor dragging will drive a person nuts...

    Thanks, both of yous... I use VNC a lot, but appreciate the link straight from Proxmox; I think that'll help me a server/client running perfectly.

    Bucko, yea... I use RDP for my daughters Windows machine - but always have her turn it off when we don't need it. I've heard other Windows folks say how well it works, too... I think I'll give it a go for my Win10 VM, cause I hardly ever













































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































    use it - but would like to learn about RDP.. and see how it differs from VNC.

    THX all - mostly SSH here, but I want sound w/ my gfx. :P
    One of my shell providers used to swear by X11, and I've used that before too.



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  • From Bucko@1337:3/102 to paulie420 on Mon Dec 6 21:16:10 2021


    Bucko, yea... I use RDP for my daughters Windows machine - but always
    have her turn it off when we don't need it. I've heard other Windows
    folks say how well it works, too... I think I'll give it a go for my
    Win10 VM, cause I hardly ever use it - but would like to learn about
    RDP.. and see how it differs from VNC.

    Actually, got it completely set up now running 6 VM's at the moment, will be adding my BBS Test Bed (A VM of all (except my Amiga) of my BBS' on one Linux machine my Image BBS, and my CNet Amiga board. These things use so little resources that I never get near the 32 gigs of Ram or the 8 cores of CPU.. The Host CPU runs around 20% except for my Image BBS Network Hub machine that thing












































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































    is at 40% of the Host CPU because WinVice is very CPU intensive.. I am really loving this. I use OpenVPN to VPN into my NAS and home network then just RDP from any computer..

    AL

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  • From paulie420@1337:3/129 to Bucko on Tue Dec 7 14:42:19 2021
    Actually, got it completely set up now running 6 VM's at the moment,
    will be adding my BBS Test Bed (A VM of all (except my Amiga) of my BBS' on one Linux machine my Image BBS, and my CNet Amiga board. These things use so little resources that I never get near the 32 gigs of Ram or the
    8 cores of CPU.. The Host CPU runs around 20% except for my Image BBS Network Hub machine that thing is at 40% of the Host CPU because WinVice is very CPU intensive.. I am really loving this. I use OpenVPN to VPN
    into my NAS and home network then just RDP from any computer..

    AL

    Yea, while I have a VPN client on my computers around the network - I need to get that setup so that I can access systems from anywhere.

    Your setup sounds like something that I'd like - I was laying with an OpenVPN VM, but think I need to understand that tech just a bit more before...



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  • From phigan@1337:1/202 to paulie420 on Wed Dec 8 03:07:42 2021
    RDP rocks. A lot of times RDP clients are set stupid, so go through all the settings. I like to specify the resolution, 32bit or higher color, bring audio to the client, show desktop, etc. VNC is totally just for quick tasks, and I avoid using it even just for that. The only time you ever NEED to use VNC is when you need GUI access to a *nix system and you didn't set up FreeNX or whatever it is.

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  • From phigan@1337:1/202 to phigan on Wed Dec 8 03:10:09 2021
    One thing I forgot to mention is how great it is that you can tunnel RDP over SSH, and some clients have tunneling over SSH built in. For example aRDP for Android or Remmina for Linux.

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  • From Bucko@1337:3/102 to paulie420 on Wed Dec 8 19:10:01 2021
    On 07 Dec 2021, paulie420 said the following...


    Yea, while I have a VPN client on my computers around the network - I
    need to get that setup so that I can access systems from anywhere.

    Your setup sounds like something that I'd like - I was laying with an OpenVPN VM, but think I need to understand that tech just a bit more before...

    It's a really nice way to go, BUT just had my first hiccups with it. Last night










































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































    ran out of memory because I had to many VM's open, the 24 gigs got eaten up fast with 8 open.. Today now, my Image BBS Network hubs (I run 2 instances of WinVice) just ate up my CPU and that VM is just crawling. After reading some messages online it turns out Vice due to the way they have the GTK screen using










































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































    Cairo uses A LOT of system resources.. So, that VM is being killed and I will keep my HUB's on real metal. Runs fine on real metal with 16 gigs of RAM and a 3.3ghz i3.. No use trying to re-invent the wheel.. As for OpenVPN, I wish I understood the in's and outs of it. My son set it up on my NAS, I have it on my










































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































    Chromebook, and my phone so I can access the home network easily.. Oh well...

    Al

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  • From Bucko@1337:3/102 to phigan on Wed Dec 8 19:13:05 2021
    On 08 Dec 2021, phigan said the following...

    RDP rocks. A lot of times RDP clients are set stupid, so go through all the settings. I like to specify the resolution, 32bit or higher color, bring audio to the client, show desktop, etc. VNC is totally just for

    I never thought I would agree about RDP, but you are right. Using Microsoft's RDP I have full access to my 3 monitors on any of my VM's now. Makes life so much easier.. Now I can move forward with my Linux conversion I will only have 2 Windows Machines at least for the time being.. ;)

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  • From MeaTLoTioN@1337:1/101 to phigan on Thu Dec 9 10:18:52 2021
    On 08 Dec 2021, phigan said the following...

    One thing I forgot to mention is how great it is that you can tunnel RDP over SSH, and some clients have tunneling over SSH built in. For
    example aRDP for Android or Remmina for Linux.

    I also like X forwarding over SSH, I can run a desktop app natively on my pc but running on a VM or other computer like this;

    ssh -X user@someremotesystem "nautilus ~"

    This would use X forwarding, to launch nautilus in the home folder of the user "user" on the computer "someremotesystem" but display it on MY computer, not display it on "someremotesystem"

    SSH and X forwarding is super nice... just if you're gonna try it over the internet, expect latency to make it super slow, using it over the local network










































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































    is fine though or some stuff that is lightweight (hence why I chose nautilus as










































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































    an example).

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  • From paulie420@1337:3/129 to MeaTLoTioN on Thu Dec 9 11:07:47 2021
    I also like X forwarding over SSH, I can run a desktop app natively on
    my pc but running on a VM or other computer like this;

    ssh -X user@someremotesystem "nautilus ~"

    This would use X forwarding, to launch nautilus in the home folder of
    the user "user" on the computer "someremotesystem" but display it on MY computer, not display it on "someremotesystem"

    SSH and X forwarding is super nice... just if you're gonna try it over
    the internet, expect latency to make it super slow, using it over the local network is fine though or some stuff that is lightweight (hence
    why I chose nautilus as an example).

    Christian aka MeaTLoTioN

    Hmmm - this is something that I HAVEN'T had a chance to play with. I use SSHFS to mount the bbs folders for easy Mobeius ANSI editing and things, but this tool might solve some of my issues with 'how do I run GUIs from my ProxMox'.

    Since I'm on the same network in-home and have great speeds it might be something that helps me get the most out of this ProxMox setup.



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  • From Bucko@1337:3/102 to All on Sat Dec 11 13:37:23 2021
    Welp unfortunate to say, I have had to go back to KVM/QEMU as my VM setup, for some strange reason both of my SynchroNet setups (1 BBS and 1 Door Server) were








































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































    rebooting at night and not coming back online. Don't know what was causing it but I would wake up to a sign on screen and neither SynchroNet were running.. Once I signed in they both would automatically boot up.. I will have to re-visit this again at a later time...

    Al

    ... If you can't make it good, make it LOOK good. -Bill Gates.

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