• Microsoft and AMD want to make Ryzen 7000 X3D CPUs run games fast

    From TechnologyDaily@1337:1/100 to All on Fri Jan 6 12:45:03 2023
    Microsoft and AMD want to make Ryzen 7000 X3D CPUs run games faster in
    Windows 11

    Date:
    Fri, 06 Jan 2023 12:23:53 +0000

    Description:
    The new design of the Ryzen 9 7900X3D and 7950X3D means there are complications for gaming.

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    AMD and Microsoft are collaborating to ensure that the new design of the high-end Ryzen 7000 X3D processors which Team Red just revealed at CES 2023 works well enough in Windows 11 , and is speedy enough for gaming.

    If you recall, AMD unveiled a trio of new X3D models at CES: the Ryzen 7 7800X3D, plus the Ryzen 9 7900X3D and 7950X3D (with 8, 12 and 16-cores respectively).

    In the case of the latter two Ryzen 9 models, they have two CCDs, meaning two separate chiplets that carry the processor cores, the twist being that only one of those CCDs actually has 3D V-Cache memory atop it. The idea is that this CCD can be used for gaming, or other apps where that cache will be advantageous, while the other CCD the bare chiplet with nothing on top can be clocked higher, offering advantages to tasks where the cache isnt so impactful (but speedier boost clocks will be).

    This fresh design complication is something that needs to be catered for on the software front, then, and thats exactly what AMD is doing.

    As Toms Hardware reports, AMD is working with Microsoft to implement optimizations for Windows in conjunction with a new AMD chipset driver, with the aim of being able to determine if any given game would benefit from the cache, and then ensure that it is running in the V-Cache-topped CCD. And vice versa for those games which will be better served by the higher boost speed
    of the other CCD.

    If you were wondering if the latter bare chiplet can still access the V-Cache on the other chiplet, well, AMD tells us that yes, it can but the catch is that this isnt a fast process or at all optimal (but may still be useful in rare cases).

    So, theres quite a balancing act going on under the hood for these top-end Ryzen 7000 X3D chips.

    One other interesting point raised by Toms is that while the new Ryzen X3D models will allow for Precision Boost Overdrive and the Curve Optimizer for juicing up performance which wasnt possible with the original 3D V-Cache
    CPU, the 5800X3D manual overclocking (directly ramping up voltage) still
    wont be allowed with the Zen 4 models. Analysis: Getting things right could take a bit of time

    There are already some worries floating around about these Windows optimizations for the Ryzen 9 7900X3D and 7950X3D, as you might imagine. What if AMD and Microsoft struggle to get them running smoothly? Should we expect teething problems at the launch of these X3D chips?

    Those are questions which cant be answered without the aid of a crystal ball, of course, but if there are any stumbling blocks in the initial
    implementation with some games, hopefully theyll be ironed out soon enough.

    And we should also bear in mind that Microsoft has had to perform tuning for new processor designs from Intel when the chip giant brought in its hybrid tech with Alder Lake . Working to ensure the different types of performance and efficiency cores were used correctly and ran to the best of their respective potential in Windows is a task Microsoft has previously tackled, and one that took a bit of time to get everything running really smoothly.

    For AMD, the proof will be in the pudding, and how we see these top-end Ryzen 7000 X3D processors actually perform across a bunch of games when theyre released in February. We cant wait and were also very keen to learn the pricing for these V-Cache models, as thats something AMD hasnt shared yet (which is a little worrying, but were not expecting the 12 and 16-core models to be remotely cheap, of course).

    Via Wccftech



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    Link to news story: https://www.techradar.com/news/microsoft-and-amd-want-to-make-ryzen-7000-x3d-c pus-run-games-faster-in-windows-11


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