• AMD RDNA 3 GPUs rumored to be serious rivals for Nvidia RTX 4090

    From TechnologyDaily@1337:1/100 to All on Thu Nov 3 16:15:03 2022
    AMD RDNA 3 GPUs rumored to be serious rivals for Nvidia RTX 4090 and 4080

    Date:
    Thu, 03 Nov 2022 16:01:51 +0000

    Description:
    Big RDNA 3 graphics card leak covers performance, power, pricing and may
    have Nvidia worried.

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    AMDs RDNA 3 graphics cards are almost here, and a final rumor dump has appeared on YouTube making some interesting revelations, although we must maintain a skeptical viewpoint when assessing all of this.

    The video comes from Moores Law is Dead (MLID), whos a big contributor to GPU leaks (and CPU ones for that matter), with the clip touching on a whole bunch of topics relating to the imminent RDNA 3 launch, including power usage, performance, and possible stock levels.

    MLID begins by stating that his sources have confirmed the spec info which
    has previously been revealed by VideoCardz as correct, and that both the initial models of RDNA 3 graphics cards should be the RX 7900 XT and a slightly more powerful 7900 XTX version . Theyll apparently run with 10,752 stream processors (SPs, meaning cores) and 12,288 SPs respectively, with 20GB and 24GB of VRAM (running at 20Gbps, with a 384-bit and 320-bit memory bus respectively).

    The reason the XTX flavor of the 7900 is being brought in rather than the
    7950 XT is that AMD wants to leave room for a more powerful flagship down the line (as happened with the 6950 XT).

    In terms of power usage, MLID claims the 7900 XTX will likely run at 350W (AMDs reference board, this is), with the 7900 XT pitched at around 300W. As ever, remember that third-party versions of these graphics cards may be
    beefed up power-wise (maybe to 450W or so) and with clocks, but this is what AMDs reference cards will run with (and some third-party models, no doubt).

    So, what to expect in terms of performance, then? MLID cautions us that the top-end 7900 XTX is not likely to beat Nvidias RTX 4090 at rasterization (non-ray tracing) performance at 4K.

    That said, this is where the theoretical 7950 XT comes into play down the
    line at some point, with plenty of headroom to push performance further with clocks, faster VRAM, and more Infinity Cache. Analysis: A robust rival for
    the RTX 4090 and more so versus the 4080?

    MLID notes with performance that its possible that the 7900 XTX could end up very close to the RTX 4090, at least in rasterization (the gap with ray tracing will be bigger as Nvidia has the clear advantage here). The AMD flagship GPU could even trade blows with the RTX 4090, perhaps edging performance in some scenarios, so this is far from a bad situation for Team Red.

    Furthermore, even if the reference board falls a bit short, those beefier
    450W (or more) third-party 7900 XTX models may still prove a good match for the RTX 4090 though its too early to say yet, really.

    On the power front, this fresh gossip from the grapevine lines up with what weve heard in recent leaks about the RDNA 3 flagship only using 2 x 8-pin power connectors . Indeed, its even better news because not just the 7900 XT is set to employ that configuration, but also the XTX version if this rumor
    is right about it running at 350W. (Dual 8-pin connectors supply 150W apiece, for 300W, plus 75W from the PCIe slot itself gives 375W, plenty to fuel a
    350W card).

    If true, expect AMD to make plenty of noise about this in the face of the rival flagship from Nvidia, the RTX 4090, which uses that 4 x 8-pin adapter setup (for those without one of the new ATX 3.0 power supplies which supports the 4090s 16-pin connector natively). Mainly because of the whole adapter melting controversy Nvidia is currently embroiled in , of course.

    MLID does observe that AMDs graphics card making partners may push to 3 x 8-pin connectors with boards that go up to more like 450W and are
    considerably more powerful; using beefier coolers, too, of course. (MLID suggests those cooling solutions may be repurposed away from RTX 4090
    designs, in fact, with 4090 cards ending up thinner on the ground than anticipated).

    AMDs beefier clocked-up graphics cards wont come until later, mind you, and initially the 7900 XT and XTX products well see released will be along reference lines with the reference cooler. As to when we might see these
    first hit the shelves, well, MLID reckons late November or early December,
    and the latter is what weve been hearing from the rumor mill elsewhere. So youll likely be waiting a month to actually be able to buy these RDNA 3 graphics cards (and several months for the purported beefier takes on the formula from third-parties).

    Regarding pricing, MLID theorizes that AMD will pin a premium tag on the 7900 XTX, but it will undercut the RTX 4090 though the leakers sources arent sure by how much. That sounds a little ominously like pricing might be close to
    the weighty price tag on the 4090, sadly but the 7900 XT could be a
    different story, and might end up more aggressively undercutting Nvidia.

    There are lots of question marks here as it appears AMD itself hasnt made the final decision on the cost front yet and of course any relative value proposition depends on how these graphics cards come out in performance terms relative to the RTX 4090 and 4080.

    Speaking of the RTX 4080 , MLID believes the RX 7900 XT could prove more than a match for it, possibly beating the Nvidia graphics card by a little bit for frame rates, and certainly for energy efficiency, while being smaller too,
    and much less of a headache to fit inside your average PC case.

    A final note on stock levels: MLID asserts that while AMD may get off to a slow start on launch day (likely early December as mentioned), week-on-week things should improve swiftly, with decent amounts of RDNA 3 graphics cards available before 2022 is out. The theory is that AMD will be able to ship at least the same volume as Nvidia manages with its Lovelace GPUs, or maybe more
    though inventory could still sell out fast, and scalping may well still come into play, sadly.



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