• AMD could defeat Nvidia in first battle of next-gen GPU wars, if

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    AMD could defeat Nvidia in first battle of next-gen GPU wars, if launch
    rumors are right

    Date:
    Mon, 02 May 2022 10:06:47 +0000

    Description:
    AMD rumored to get mid-range graphics cards out the door first, but Nvidia will kick off with its flagship GPU.

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    Nvidia and AMDs next-gen graphics cards are due later this year, and weve
    just heard more from the rumor mill about exactly when these Lovelace and
    RDNA 3 products might arrive, giving us a hint of how the next-gen GPU wars could pan out as a result.

    This comes from German tech site 3DCenter.org which presented us with a roundup of all the rumored tape out, testing and purported release dates for Nvidia and AMDs next graphics cards, put together using the most recent info from two major Twitter leakers, namely Kopite7kimi and Greymon55. Thanks. https://t.co/qtYz4iwtgR April 29, 2022 See more

    Of course, this is just a summary of rumors and guesswork, and as 3DCenter makes clear there are big caveats regarding the accuracy here, but
    nonetheless its interesting to see how the speculation is shaping up
    regarding which GPUs might come first (and this ties up with what weve heard elsewhere, too, lending it all a bit more weight well come back to that later).

    So, going by the prediction made here, the initial products for both Nvidia and AMD for what will presumably be the RTX 4000 and RX 7000 series respectively will be the top-end AD102 for the former and Navi 33 for the latter, possibly arriving in September or October 2022.

    That means the first product out from Nvidia could be the flagship RTX 4090, and that alone, perhaps, as the most recent rumor from Kopite7kimi is that
    the RTX 4080 will not use the AD102 chip, and will actually be built around AD103 (help yourself to some condiments with that assertion, of course).

    AMD, on the other hand, is going to be pushing out Navi 33 products which are midrange GPUs, not high-end. Theres some confusion as to exactly where the boundaries for Navi 33 will lie, going by the latest from another
    high-profile leaker, Moores Law is Dead, but these GPUs might be RX 7600 or even 7700 models.

    Nvidias next Lovelace graphics cards purportedly wont be too far behind, though, with AD103 and AD104, which could represent the RTX 4080, 4070 and 4060, going into testing a month or two after the RTX 4090 , meaning that all these GPUs should debut at some point in Q4 2022 (and perhaps in November as
    a vague best guess from what we see here).

    AMD, on the other hand, will keep gamers waiting until 2023 for the rest of its line-up if this rumor roundup is correct, theorizing that the flagship RX 7900 (Navi 31) offering will turn up at the start of the year (presumably January), and the rest of the RDNA 3 range (including RX 7800 products) may not arrive until the spring of 2023 (thats Navi 32). Analysis: Advantage AMD, at least initially?

    The most important thing to remember here is that even if this is the
    intended release schedule for Nvidia and AMD right now, theres still a fair bit of road to go in the testing process, so things may change anyway. When you consider that these are just rumors, its clear we need to be very
    cautious about putting too much stock in these supposed release timeframes.

    Whats interesting, though, is that on the AMD side this does marry with what weve heard from YouTuber Moores Law is Dead, who believes that Navi 32 wont arrive until the first half of 2023 , so spring of next year would seem about right. He also reckons that Navi 33 products are going to be out of the door first for AMD, so thats a trio of leakers making that prediction which does lend the rumor a bit more weight.

    Where things differ for Moores Law is Dead is that he asserts that the flagship RDNA 3 product wont be far behind Navi 33 at all, whereas 3DCenters summary predicts a much larger gap.

    At any rate, going by whats floated here, the initial battle of the next-gen GPU wars could be Nvidias top-end vs AMDs mid-range, and that should give
    Team Red the advantage, at least in terms of getting traction with adoption going out of the gate.

    Nvidias problem will be if it only has the RTX 4090 on sale to begin with, thats a niche proposition which is invariably going to have a towering price tag, and whats more its rumored power demands could force gamers into a PSU upgrade, making it an even more difficult sell (in terms of the hassle and extra cost of switching out your power supply ).

    So, AMDs RDNA 3 range could get the jump on Nvidia at the outset, if this turns out to be on the money assuming, that is, that Team Red can get production cranked up so supply meets demand.

    However, Nvidia should not be too far behind with the rest of its RTX 4000 line-up, bringing all those cards in before AMD gets anything else released, at least in theory. So the situation could swing back in Team Greens favor fairly swiftly, depending on how the relative merits and pricing of these
    GPUs pans out (and stock levels, too).

    As a final note, we should also bear in mind that later in 2023, the GPU
    world wont be a two-horse race, and we dont know what kind of impact Intels desktop Arc graphics cards will have ( they should be out next month , and likely on shelves in fairly hefty quantities later in 2022). A new rumor suggests Nvidia RTX 4000 GPUs might be far more powerful than expected



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