• Remember when Apple built a Mac OS running on top of Solaris and HP-UX

    From LundukeJournal@1337:1/100 to All on Sun Mar 20 05:45:04 2022
    Remember when Apple built a Mac OS running on top of Solaris and HP-UX? Seriously. It happened.

    Date:
    Sun, 20 Mar 2022 05:32:48 GMT

    Description:
    Macintosh Application Environment for Unix -- from back in 1994.

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    In the 1990s, Microsoft developed software (Internet Explorer, Windows Media Player, and Outlook Express) for both Solaris and HP-UX which brought a
    small dash of Windows-y-ness to UNIX-land.

    But did you know that Apple brought the entire Mac System 7 to Solaris and HP-UX?

    Its true! First released in 1994 and discontinued in 1998 it was called Macintosh Application Environment. And it really-really works!

    Note: The Macintosh Application Environment is not A/UX, Apples UNIX system for some of their 68k Macintoshes. Two totally different beasts. Apple has had a lot of toes in the UNIX waters for quite some time.

    If you have a Sun SPARCstation (running Solaris 2.4) or an HP UNIX
    workstation (HP-UX 9 or 10) you can run an entire Mac System 7.x instance right within its own X window. With the ability to copy and paste text (and graphics) between Mac applications and UNIX applications.

    Check it out. This is the screenshot that Apple, itself, used to promote
    this crazy beast.

    That screenshot is using CDE (Common Desktop Environment), which was de-facto on Solaris and HP-UX back in those days.

    But, technically, theres no reason the Macintosh Application Environment
    (MAE) cant be run under other desktop environments on top of either system. In fact, heres a screenshot of MAE booting on Solaris running the GNOME desktop. This comes from a recent Twitter thread of someone showing off their SPARCstation running Macintosh Application Environment. With a bunch of pictures.



    Before we go any further we need to take a detour over to Apple.com.

    Not Apple.com nowadays Apple.com from back when the final version of the Macintosh Application Environment was released 1997 . And, not really Apple.com, per se . But MAE.Apple.com.

    Here I kid you not is what that glorious website looked like.

    Ok. Seriously. Theres a lot of fascinating information here. How Apple handled the demo version. The prominent 1-800 number listings. But But WHAT IN THE WHAT .

    Zoom in. Upper left quadrant. ENHANCE! Holy Sumo wrestler in a tu-tu, Batman!

    That, right there, is what we call a decision .

    Someone was working on this website at Apple, back in the late 1990s, and was thinking to himself, I got it. I know just what this website for the Macintosh Application Environment for UNIX needs.

    Powerful stuff.

    I was pretty on-the-fence about this whole MacOS-on-UNIX thing. But then I saw this sumo wrestler. In a tutu. Wearing a tiara. And, well, that really
    Holy cow, is he on a skateboard? Yep. Hes on a skateboard.

    Well. That settles it. This is the coolest thing to grace Apple.com. Ever.

    *ahem* Where were we? Ah. Yes.

    So. How does all this work?

    Is it a virtual machine? Yes. Yes it is. Mostly. Courtesy the MAE 3.0 Whitepaper

    It is, essentially, a 68040 emulator with a Mac ROM and System 7.5.3 sitting on top of it. Though, its performance thanks partially, I think, to that wonderfully named Mac/UNIX Scaffolding chunk there in the middle was quite reasonable.

    I worked for HP back in the late 90s, supporting HP-UX and other UNIX workstations. Only ever saw one machine with the MAE in use. But I recall thinking that it wasnt the fastest Macintosh you could use at the time but it wasnt the slowest, either. Which I found impressive.

    This system, by the end, was pretty doggone powerful. You could copy/paste between the Mac virtual machine. and UNIX software. And you could access all of your UNIX partitions from the Mac side.

    Thanks you know to the scaffolding. From the Macintosh Application
    Environment Administrators Manual . (Thanks Archive.org!)

    Note the toolbar along the bottom to provide some extra UNIX integration features. Snippet from the MAE 3.0 Whitepaper

    Oh! And check out the detailed breakdown of memory usage.

    How awesome would it be if software nowadays shipped with details about
    memory usage like that? We use this many MB for this code over here and another X MBs for the graphics buffers

    That should be a thing!

    Also Only 24 MB of RAM! Total! Ah, those were the days! The 90s were awesome.

    Supposedly even AppleTalk works, at least according to the User Manual (which is different than the Administrators manual ).

    Installing MAE was a decidedly old-school, UNIX-y affair. All in the terminal, baby! Screenshot courtesy of this archived website .

    And heres the About screen for the demo version of the very first release:

    The virtual Macintosh for Open Systems love that.

    A screenshot of the trial version because it amuses me. That HUGE 1-800 banner along the bottom of the window. It just takes up so much space . And simply seeing a 1-800 on screen, in an application window, is almost jarring.
    You just dont expect to see that anymore. MAE 2.0 screenshot which I found over here .

    You know. Worth pondering on This was 1994. In context, here are other things that came to pass in 1994:

    Linux it version 1.0.

    Windows 95 was not out yet .

    The idea of being able to run a SPARCstation or HP-UX box and have a full Mac inside it (essentially) during a time dominated by Windows 3.1 sounds pretty darned amazing.

    Oh. Oh! Check this out .

    There was a time when Apple has email mailing lists. Here is the MAE User list. And Apple published the archives for people to search. I tell ya.
    Was a different time at Apple.

    A couple final, parting thoughts:

    This is Apple making, selling, and supporting running a version of the Mac operating system on non-Apple hardware.

    That sumo wrestler in the tutu.

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