Hey all!

I had been using gmail for email verification here at the Ruins and it appears gmail is no longer offering that service, or charging, or ... not sure. Does anyone have a free alternative? I noticed Proton.Me had gone to charging also. Or what am I missing that has changed .. ?

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On 08 Dec 2023, JaXson said the following...

I had been using gmail for email verification here at the Ruins and it appears gmail is no longer offering that service, or charging, or ...
not sure. Does anyone have a free alternative? I noticed Proton.Me had gone to charging also. Or what am I missing that has changed .. ?

I'm still using gmail. Had to setup a test account to check a door or two yesterday and it worked for me.

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I'm still using gmail. Had to setup a test account to check a door or two yesterday and it worked for me.

Hmm .. ok thank you. I'll have to dig in and figure out why it quit working.

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I had been using gmail for email verification here at the Ruins and it appears gmail is no longer offering that service, or charging, or ...
not sure. Does anyone have a free alternative? I noticed Proton.Me had gone to charging also. Or what am I missing that has changed .. ?

Same here - I need to fix this issue. :/ Maybe we'll do it together... :P



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On 16 Dec 2023, JaXson said the following...

I'm still using gmail. Had to setup a test account to check a door or yesterday and it worked for me.

Hmm .. ok thank you. I'll have to dig in and figure out why it quit working.

I too am using gmail still.. You do have to set up an app password in Gmail in order for it to use outside programs like Outlook and other non-secure apps.. I set it up on my system and it still works fine..

Al

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I too am using gmail still.. You do have to set up an app password in Gmail in order for it to use outside programs like Outlook and other non-secure apps.. I set it up on my system and it still works fine..

Yeah, I had it working on here and validating users, then it just quit working, this was some time ago. I forgot about it until recently testing the feature. I'll check out the app password and see if that is the issue. Thx!

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Same here - I need to fix this issue. :/ Maybe we'll do it together... :P

Yeah whenever is cool. I also need to get Gopher and Python fixed. Always something.. TUG needs more love than The Ruins ATM. I did get MRC working in 132x37! Very cool but no Themes yet. I may make one if I have time later this week. Free any time after 2pm EST.

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I too am using gmail still.. You do have to set up an app password in Gmail in order for it to use outside programs like Outlook and other non-secure apps.. I set it up on my system and it still works fine..

hey Bucko .. curious .. where within Gmail is the APP password set?
Also, does POP3 need to be enabled within Mystic or just SMTP?
Laslty, within the config settings in Gmail do I enable both POP and IMAP or just IMAP? I can not remember all of this stuff these days.. You'd think I took a 30 year break, not 9 months. Yeesh.

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On 17 Dec 2023, JaXson said the following...

Yeah, I had it working on here and validating users, then it just quit working, this was some time ago. I forgot about it until recently
testing the feature. I'll check out the app password and see if that is the issue. Thx!

Yea, Google went to app passwords about a year or two ago, mine was working before and stopped working and once I did the app password routine correctly it worked like a charm..

Al

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On 17 Dec 2023, JaXson said the following...

hey Bucko .. curious .. where within Gmail is the APP password set?
Also, does POP3 need to be enabled within Mystic or just SMTP?
Laslty, within the config settings in Gmail do I enable both POP and
IMAP or just IMAP? I can not remember all of this stuff these days.. You'd think I took a 30 year break, not 9 months. Yeesh.

JaXson

It gets set in the security settings here is a link to the instructions on how to set it up:

https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/185833?hl=en

Pop3 and SMTP do not need to be set up, I have IMAP set up on my email address because I use Outlook to download my messages. Otherwise, use whatever you want to use.. :) I just tested my setup and it does work fine..

Al

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Ok, so figured this out, it wasn't right in my face but it a little digging it was easy enough .. If you had Email verification working on your BBS with Gmail and it quit working, and you just left it broke like me, here is the fix ....

---------------------------gmail settings -------------------------------- Gmail / Google "Why the change":
To keep your account more secure, Gmail no longer supports third-party apps or devices which require you to share your Google username and password. Sharing your account credentials with third-parties makes it easier for hackers to gain access to your account. Instead, look for the option to "Sign in with Google," which is a safer way to sync your mail to other apps.

In the coming weeks (more like months ago), the option to Enable IMAP or Disable IMAP will no longer be available. IMAP access is always enabled in Gmail, and your current connections to other email clients arent affected. You dont need to take any action. (But muh BBS of course ..) So the fix .. Thank you Bucko for pointing this out, App password:

-----------------Steps to fix In Gmail---------------------->
1. Go to your google account at https://myaccount.google.com/
2. Select Security.
3. Under "Signing in to Google," select 2-Step Verification and complete
the 2-Step Verification if you have not already.
4. At the bottom of the page, select App passwords.
Enter a name (like your BBS name)
5. Select Generate. Write down or copy the 16-character code that google generates
6. Select Done.

------------------On your BBS Change --------------------------------->
1. Go to ./mystic -cfg
2. Select Servers / General Settings / SMTP
3. Change the password of your login to the 16-character code google
provided.
4. Test. Done!

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On 17 Dec 2023, JaXson said the following...

hey Bucko .. curious .. where within Gmail is the APP password set?
Also, does POP3 need to be enabled within Mystic or just SMTP?
Laslty, within the config settings in Gmail do I enable both POP and
IMAP or just IMAP? I can not remember all of this stuff these days.. You'd think I took a 30 year break, not 9 months. Yeesh.

Not Bucko but... It's under your Google account settings, in security.

I've got both enabled on the account I use for email verification. Don't remember which one you need lol.

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Ok, so figured this out, it wasn't right in my face but it a little digging it was easy enough .. If you had Email verification working on your BBS with Gmail and it quit working, and you just left it broke like me, here is the fix ....

FWIW can confirm you have it working since I just used it on your board :)

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On 17 Dec 2023, JaXson said the following...

Ok, so figured this out, it wasn't right in my face but it a little digging it was easy enough .. If you had Email verification working on your BBS with Gmail and it quit working, and you just left it broke like me, here is the fix ....

Glad you got it going.. :)

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FWIW can confirm you have it working since I just used it on your board
:)

haha, thanks esc! I've had a head cold all week so just now seeing this message. Good to hear live testing occurred and it worked :) And thanks for the call in!

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Glad you got it going.. :)

Thank you for sure. It was buried. I don't use Google nor it's apps much now that sold my business, and my kids only do so for their school work. So I completely forgot about needing to go to the google accounts and had been beating my forehead on the desk trying to find the security menu within gmails settings :) BUT finally found that little button called "help" and got the link I needed prior to seeing your post here. Thanks again for all of the replies.

Now the more complicated fixes await my attention. Linux Mint had done some update a while ago, and or when I updated to v49 of Mystic, Gophernicus quit working on my BBSes and as a result my gopher hole; while also Python started acting up ... both the "Crypto Ticker" and Smooths "This
Day in History" mod quit working. Wish me luck :)

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On 23 Dec 2023, JaXson said the following...

Now the more complicated fixes await my attention. Linux Mint had done some update a while ago, and or when I updated to v49 of Mystic, Gophernicus quit working on my BBSes and as a result my gopher hole;
while also Python started acting up ... both the "Crypto Ticker" and Smooths "This Day in History" mod quit working. Wish me luck :)

Good luck with those fixes.. I don't run any of those mods here, wich I could help ya..

Al

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Good luck with those fixes.. I don't run any of those mods here, wich I could help ya..

Now worries Al, I used to approach bugs with much more urgency than I do now. Whats a good BBS without something broken? Smilez

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