• Editing menus, headers and prompts.

    From DavidG@21:3/188 to All on Tue Oct 15 16:58:16 2024
    Hi All,

    I'm restring my BBS journey with Mystic which I've found to be complete and easy to use *except* for the afct that whenever I use the built-in ANSI editor and specifically I change (translate into panish) the ansimhdr, it gets screwed, my edits show buy the variables showing From/to/subj all of the msg details vanish, even if I use OVR on the editor and nothing else, they just dissapear.

    Does anyone kno of a working of of editing ANSI screens/headers and not messing the up in the process?. I mean if te Mystic built-in editor screws them, what else can I use?.

    Best regards and thanks

    PS: Any menus translated into Spanish?, please not from Spais, not partocurarly fond of the way they call stuff, yup same language but we do not have "fecheros" here, we have "archivos" (files).

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    David Gonzalez (Mister G)
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    ... Next time you wave at me, use more than one finger!

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  • From apam@21:4/158.1 to DavidG on Fri Oct 18 09:42:00 2024

    Does anyone kno of a working of of editing ANSI screens/headers and not messing the up in the process?. I mean if te Mystic built-in editor screws them, what else can I use?.


    Moebius seems to be the editor to use these days:

    https://blocktronics.github.io/moebius/

    You could also use "TheDraw" in dosbox.

    Andrew

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  • From j0hnny a1pha@21:4/158 to DavidG on Thu Oct 17 21:41:23 2024
    Does anyone kno of a working of of editing ANSI screens/headers and
    not messing the up in the process?. I mean if te Mystic built-in
    editor screws them, what else can I use?.

    Hay un programa llamado Moebius y otro llamado Icy Draw que funcionan
    bien:
    https://blocktronics.github.io/moebius/ https://github.com/mkrueger/icy_tools/blob/master/crates/icy_draw/README.md


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  • From David Gonzalez@21:3/188 to j0hnny a1pha on Fri Oct 18 07:17:18 2024

    Hola j0hnny!

    17 Oct 24 21:41, you wrote to DavidG:

    Does anyone kno of a working of of editing ANSI screens/headers and
    not messing the up in the process?. I mean if te Mystic built-in
    editor screws them, what else can I use?.

    Hay un programa llamado Moebius y otro llamado Icy Draw que funcionan bien:
    https://blocktronics.github.io/moebius/ https://github.com/mkrueger/icy_tools/blob/master/crates/icy_draw/READ ME.md

    Muchas Gracias, voy a darles unamirada. Me da muchos lios el nativo de Mystic, como mencion‚ en un msj en esta  rea, cada que edito las cabeceras, algo se da¤a.

    PD: ¨Por qu‚ mmuri˘ el  rea FSX_ESP?.

    Saludos

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    David


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  • From David Gonzalez@21:3/188 to apam on Fri Oct 18 07:20:26 2024

    Hello apam!

    18 Oct 24 09:42, you wrote to DavidG:


    Does anyone kno of a working of of editing ANSI screens/headers and
    not messing the up in the process?. I mean if te Mystic built-in
    editor screws them, what else can I use?.


    Moebius seems to be the editor to use these days:

    https://blocktronics.github.io/moebius/

    Yup, definitely have to try that, have to figure out a good strategy which now is just to save a backup of files and restore if something goes sour.

    You could also use "TheDraw" in dosbox.

    I remember TheDraw, it was my go-to back then, haven{t tried DOSBOX, worth fiddling with it?.

    Andrew

    Thanks

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  • From Warpslide@21:3/110 to David Gonzalez on Fri Oct 18 10:39:46 2024
    On 18 Oct 2024, David Gonzalez said the following...

    You could also use "TheDraw" in dosbox.

    I remember TheDraw, it was my go-to back then, haven{t tried DOSBOX,
    worth fiddling with it?.

    I use TheDraw with my Win 10 32-bit VM, it works well.

    https://nrbbs.net/TDRAW463.ZIP
    https://nrbbs.net/TDREGINC.ZIP


    Jay

    ... A great deal of money is never enough once you have it

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  • From Shurato@21:2/148 to Warpslide on Fri Oct 18 10:25:00 2024

    On 18 Oct 2024, David Gonzalez said the following...

    You could also use "TheDraw" in dosbox.

    I remember TheDraw, it was my go-to back then, haven{t tried DOSBOX, worth fiddling with it?.

    I use TheDraw with my Win 10 32-bit VM, it works well.

    https://nrbbs.net/TDRAW463.ZIP https://nrbbs.net/TDREGINC.ZIP


    I find AcidDraw to be a bit superior. The dragging of text is smoother and
    my BBS doesn't support SAUCE, so it cuts that garbage out easily. It just seems to be a better experience and works mostly the same.

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    ,wss) (Ports 22,23,110,21,119,8080) (ssh login 'bbs' pass 'shsbbs').


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  • From tassiebob@21:3/169 to David Gonzalez on Sat Oct 19 12:32:20 2024
    Moebius seems to be the editor to use these days:

    https://blocktronics.github.io/moebius/

    Yup, definitely have to try that, have to figure out a good strategy
    which now is just to save a backup of files and restore if something
    goes sour.

    I briefly tried moebius last night, but it bails (on Linux) with an error saying the display compositor is frequently crashing. At some point I'll see if I can ascertain why that is.

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  • From David Gonzalez@21:3/188 to tassiebob on Fri Oct 18 20:55:48 2024

    Hello tassiebob!

    19 Oct 24 12:32, you wrote to me:

    Moebius seems to be the editor to use these days:

    https://blocktronics.github.io/moebius/

    Yup, definitely have to try that, have to figure out a good
    strategy which now is just to save a backup of files and restore
    if something goes sour.

    I briefly tried moebius last night, but it bails (on Linux) with an
    error saying the display compositor is frequently crashing. At some
    point I'll see if I can ascertain why that is.

    Oh man, good old Linux.... and it's weirdnesses, don't get me wrong this VM is on Proxox, I considered my self a 'linxux taliban', now I like to earn money and eat.

    I tried it on windows, I like it, I do.

    [...]

    Wanted to share what I created for my 21yr old GF but ctrl+c+v didn't cope. Will keep on tryin'....

    Thanks


    David


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  • From opicron@21:3/126 to apam on Sat Oct 19 10:02:25 2024

    Does anyone kno of a working of of editing ANSI screens/headers and not messing the up in the process?. I mean if te Mystic built-in editor scr them, what else can I use?.


    Moebius seems to be the editor to use these days:

    I use IcyDraw and funny enough just edited the exact same ANSI screens without issue.

    oP!

    ... A house is a place to keep your stuff while you go out and get more stuff

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  • From tassiebob@21:3/169 to David Gonzalez on Sun Oct 20 19:45:46 2024
    Oh man, good old Linux.... and it's weirdnesses

    Each to their own :-) See I'd say the same about Windows...

    don't get me wrong this VM is on Proxox

    Most of my stuff is on Proxmox too, or docker on a Linode VM.

    I considered my self a 'linxux taliban', now I like to
    earn money and eat.

    I'd run a Linux desktop at $dayjob (as I did for years at $dayjob-1), but this time around I need things like AutoCAD that just aren't available for Linux. So I use what I need to get the job done.

    $dayjob-1 was more network engineering oriented, and Linux was ideal (for me) for terminal sessions, development, etc.

    I've used OSX as a daily driver in the past too.

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  • From David Gonzalez@21:3/188 to tassiebob on Sun Oct 20 07:52:26 2024

    Hello tassiebob!

    20 Oct 24 19:45, you wrote to me:

    Oh man, good old Linux.... and it's weirdnesses

    Each to their own :-) See I'd say the same about Windows...

    don't get me wrong this VM is on Proxox

    Most of my stuff is on Proxmox too, or docker on a Linode VM.

    Cool, last month I repurposed a laptop and setup my mini-pve 12GB RAM and this Win10 VM.

    I also installed a TrueNAS Scale bare-bone on a more powerful PC and I'm testing VMs on it but managing is better on Proxmox.

    I considered my self a 'linxux taliban', now I like to
    earn money and eat.

    I'd run a Linux desktop at $dayjob (as I did for years at $dayjob-1),
    but this time around I need things like AutoCAD that just aren't
    available for Linux. So I use what I need to get the job done.

    I do networking for a living, I train people for soem brands and do some consulting $dayjob was as an ISP Network Engineer andit runs MikroTik (Linux derivative)

    $dayjob-1 was more network engineering oriented, and Linux was ideal
    (for me) for terminal sessions, development, etc.

    I've used OSX as a daily driver in the past too.

    I like the way mcaos works, I have an old macbook pro with a sollen battery, not working and in my time I built a hackintosh. it was a nice time, I used paralels and VMs integrated quite nicely.

    I'm passionate about networking, linux and tech in general.

    Now going back to the point I'll try those ANSI drawing tools because it's so frustrating thata by just changing two letters on a ehader file the whole thing is destroyed.

    I missed these talks ;)

    David


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  • From tassiebob@21:3/169 to David Gonzalez on Mon Oct 21 18:54:12 2024
    Cool, last month I repurposed a laptop and setup my mini-pve 12GB RAM
    and this Win10 VM.

    Nice. I was running on a Dell R920 with 192GB RAM, a bunch of HDD's, etc, etc, but downsized to a 2nd hand HP desktop last month in an attempt to reign in the power bill :-) Shoehorned a couple of spinning rust drives into it, an SSD, and an NVMe drive - gets along OK.

    I also installed a TrueNAS Scale bare-bone on a more powerful PC and I'm testing VMs on it but managing is better on Proxmox.

    Same here - I have a Supermicro 1RU box running TrueNAS scale. Just has the one VM running on it though - the Proxmox backup server for backing up the other machine :-)

    I do networking for a living, I train people for soem brands and do some consulting $dayjob was as an ISP Network Engineer andit runs MikroTik (Linux derivative)

    My last job was managing the global transit network for a large Australian ISP. Mostly Cisco based unfortunately (we had some Juniper/HP in other parts of the network). I'd be seriously looking at Arista if I were still there.

    We did use some Mikrotik for out of band access. If I was too lazy to CLI into them then I'd run winbox under wine (although the new native Linux Winbox works quite well - I have Mikrotik WiFi AP's at home).

    I've used OSX as a daily driver in the past too.

    I like the way mcaos works, I have an old macbook pro with a sollen battery, not working and in my time I built a hackintosh. it was a nice time, I used paralels and VMs integrated quite nicely.

    I didn't mine OSX, but issues getting software to build pushed me away from it. Was easier to develop software that was going to run in a Linux environment on a Linux workstation.

    Now going back to the point I'll try those ANSI drawing tools because
    it's so frustrating thata by just changing two letters on a ehader file the whole thing is destroyed.

    I've installed IcyDraw to play with, but haven't had a chance to do anything in anger yet.

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  • From niter3@21:1/199 to tassiebob on Mon Oct 21 06:45:18 2024
    My last job was managing the global transit network for a large
    Australian ISP. Mostly Cisco based unfortunately (we had some
    Juniper/HP in other parts of the network). I'd be seriously looking at Arista if I were still there.

    I'm also a network engineer.

    Can you elaborate on why Arista over Cisco...

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  • From David Gonzalez@21:3/188 to tassiebob on Mon Oct 21 08:11:58 2024

    Hello tassiebob!

    21 Oct 24 18:54, you wrote to me:

    Cool, last month I repurposed a laptop and setup my mini-pve 12GB
    RAM and this Win10 VM.

    Nice. I was running on a Dell R920 with 192GB RAM, a bunch of HDD's,
    etc, etc, but downsized to a 2nd hand HP desktop last month in an
    attempt to reign in the power bill :-) Shoehorned a couple of
    spinning rust drives into it, an SSD, and an NVMe drive - gets along
    OK.

    Yup, when we can go off-grid, all solar, it'd be great, I'd love to go solar but I live in an apartment building so nor for me to decide and they rented the roof for cell towersd so can't go naywhere near that roof

    I also installed a TrueNAS Scale bare-bone on a more powerful PC
    and I'm testing VMs on it but managing is better on Proxmox.

    Same here - I have a Supermicro 1RU box running TrueNAS scale. Just
    has the one VM running on it though - the Proxmox backup server for backing up the other machine :-)

    I have a server I do, broken but I can say I have it it's a rackable systems box with one of those custom Google mobos but yeah....

    I do networking for a living, I train people for soem brands and
    do some consulting $dayjob was as an ISP Network Engineer andit
    runs MikroTik (Linux derivative)

    My last job was managing the global transit network for a large
    Australian ISP. Mostly Cisco based unfortunately (we had some
    Juniper/HP in other parts of the network). I'd be seriously looking
    at Arista if I were still there.

    I mostly teach, consulting is a bitch here, unless you do Cisco or Juniper or Fortinet, consulting for mikrotik or Linux sucks big time, people are just giving away their yime for free or peanuts.

    We did use some Mikrotik for out of band access. If I was too lazy to
    CLI into them then I'd run winbox under wine (although the new native Linux Winbox works quite well - I have Mikrotik WiFi AP's at home).

    I was IT Director for a mid-sze ISP all Mikrotik, worked really great, wel, apart from the strange unexplained lockups from time to time.

    I've used OSX as a daily driver in the past too.

    I like the way mcaos works, I have an old macbook pro with a
    sollen battery, not working and in my time I built a hackintosh.
    it was a nice time, I used paralels and VMs integrated quite
    nicely.

    I didn't mine OSX, but issues getting software to build pushed me away from it. Was easier to develop software that was going to run in a
    Linux environment on a Linux workstation.

    I do like Linux, everything I did with Linux VoIP, AD, Samba, Monitoring, then I said I need reliability and less RTFM from a buch of a-holes on Linux fora.

    Now going back to the point I'll try those ANSI drawing tools
    because it's so frustrating thata by just changing two letters on
    a ehader file the whole thing is destroyed.

    I've installed IcyDraw to play with, but haven't had a chance to do anything in anger yet.

    Yup, gotta get hands dirty...

    David


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  • From David Gonzalez@21:3/188 to niter3 on Mon Oct 21 09:00:29 2024

    Hello niter3!

    21 Oct 24 06:45, you wrote to tassiebob:

    :)

    My last job was managing the global transit network for a large
    Australian ISP. Mostly Cisco based unfortunately (we had some
    Juniper/HP in other parts of the network). I'd be seriously
    looking at Arista if I were still there.

    I'm also a network engineer.

    Can you elaborate on why Arista over Cisco...

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  • From tassiebob@21:3/169 to niter3 on Tue Oct 22 21:14:08 2024
    Can you elaborate on why Arista over Cisco...

    OK, so considering Juniper & Cisco.

    Juniper
    -------
    Has some interesting hardware, and indeed I have deployed some Juniper boxes in the not too distant past (some old
    ACX's for "reasons", and some MX204's). I would be hesitant to deploy new Juniper right now until I see how the HP acquisition plays out. The MX204 is a nice box, but between HP and Micron I'd have to think twice right now.


    Cisco
    -----

    Their code quality is questionable. 20+ years ago there was an issue where frames with a '4' in the MAC address at a
    particular position were assumed to be IPv4 (not a valid assumption). Guess who /reintroduced/ that bug only a couple of years back, in a modern release of XR? Some of the bugs were so bad you'd ask yourself which work-experience kid wrote the code.

    The licensing system in XR blows chunks (and sometimes core dumps). Maybe it's got better, but some of my ex-colleagues tell me that's driving their desire to change vendors. We bought a fleet of boxes with perpetual licensing - until Cisco decided that wouldn't be a thing any more and our boxes became unlicensed. We beat them into submission, but really?

    Their documentation sucks. It'll happily tell you a feature exists, and how to use it. Except it's not supported by the platform. Been bitten by this a few times.

    Related to this, sometimes a command will exist in the CLI, but throw a SDK error when you try and commit. In such a rush to port XR to a new platform that they didn't have time to tidy up the CLI and remove commands that don't actually work, or tidy up the documentation for that matter.

    Hardware issues causing boxes (NCS540's specifically) to spontaneously lock up, requiring a re-power to temporarily recover. Same boxes seemed to have DC power supply issues that resulted in what looked like them crowbarring and requiring manual intervention (no other equipment on the same DC supply affected).

    Their TAC sucks. Hard. Very hard. Extremely hard. In a previous job it was so bad we ended up with high-touch support, just to get the level of support we previously had from the TAC. Then that went south and we ended up with a Cisco engineer working from our office.

    That said, if your issue is serious enough that it becomes a CAP case, then you'll probably get excellent support. The last one I was involved in, we had Cisco on the phone 24x7 for over a week. It was a very low level issue with a NIC driver and we were dealing with the guys that wrote the code. We and they took it in shifts, 24x7. That case and the investigation were going to be the subject of an AusNOG talk until COVID happened.

    To be fair, most of my recent Cisco experience is with the NCS platform, but several of these issues are just as likely to affect their other platforms as well.

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  • From tassiebob@21:3/169 to David Gonzalez on Tue Oct 22 21:23:18 2024
    I have a server I do, broken but I can say I have it it's a rackable systems box with one of those custom Google mobos but yeah....

    One of the Open Compute boards? Never seen one in the flesh.

    I mostly teach, consulting is a bitch here, unless you do Cisco or Juniper or Fortinet, consulting for mikrotik or Linux sucks big time, people are just giving away their yime for free or peanuts.

    :-(

    I was IT Director for a mid-sze ISP all Mikrotik, worked really great, wel, apart from the strange unexplained lockups from time to time.

    Ha, yeah. The older Mikrotiks didn't like DDoS attacks much either - would run them out of CPU :-( We were fairly lucky where I was - our DDoS attacks were almost always well under 500Gbps. Other than potentially filling a few ports, the routers were generally fairly unaffected.

    I do like Linux, everything I did with Linux VoIP, AD, Samba,
    Monitoring, then I said I need reliability and less RTFM from a buch of a-holes on Linux fora.

    Plenty of a-holes to go around unfortunately...

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  • From niter3@21:1/199 to tassiebob on Tue Oct 22 07:13:48 2024
    The licensing system in XR blows chunks (and sometimes core dumps).
    Maybe it's got better, but some of my ex-colleagues tell me that's
    driving their desire to change vendors. We bought a fleet of boxes with perpetual licensing - until Cisco decided that wouldn't be a thing any more and our boxes became unlicensed. We beat them into submission, but really?

    Agree! Their whole licensing model is terrible!

    Related to this, sometimes a command will exist in the CLI, but throw a SDK error when you try and commit. In such a rush to port XR to a new platform that they didn't have time to tidy up the CLI and remove
    commands that don't actually work, or tidy up the documentation for that matter.

    Haven't seen this one yet.

    Hardware issues causing boxes (NCS540's specifically) to spontaneously lock up, requiring a re-power to temporarily recover. Same boxes seemed to have DC power supply issues that resulted in what looked like them crowbarring and requiring manual intervention (no other equipment on the same DC supply affected).

    Only thing I'm seeing this with are their shitty FTD's.

    Their TAC sucks. Hard. Very hard. Extremely hard. In a previous job
    it was so bad we ended up with high-touch support, just to get the level of support we previously had from the TAC. Then that went south and we ended up with a Cisco engineer working from our office.

    Support is awful. To be fair, I have a very difficult time understanding some of their tech support agents. Which ultimately gets me more frustrated!

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  • From tassiebob@21:3/169 to niter3 on Wed Oct 23 09:02:38 2024
    Related to this, sometimes a command will exist in the CLI, but throw
    SDK error when you try and commit. In such a rush to port XR to a new
    platform that they didn't have time to tidy up the CLI and remove commands that don't actually work, or tidy up the documentation for th
    matter.

    Haven't seen this one yet.

    I first saw it when trying to fiddle with PCP bits on inner tags. The commands existed in the CLI to do it, but the SDK said no when I tried to commit.

    VLAN ranges also failed miserably - there was one instance where it worked, but if you had double tagged traffic then it was a no-go (even if the range was just on the outer tags).

    There were a bunch of other cases too that escape me. Our Cisco rep basically said "yeah, they rush to get the new boxes to market and don't get time to clean up the CLI & docs". Thanks Cisco.

    Hardware issues causing boxes (NCS540's specifically) to spontaneously
    lock up, requiring a re-power to temporarily recover. Same boxes seem
    to have DC power supply issues that resulted in what looked like them crowbarring and requiring manual intervention (no other equipment on t
    same DC supply affected).

    Only thing I'm seeing this with are their shitty FTD's.

    We have a handful of those in my current job - fortunately I have nothing to do with them, but I have heard of PSU's failing.

    Support is awful. To be fair, I have a very difficult time understanding some of their tech support agents. Which ultimately gets me more frustrated!

    Lack of knowledge is another factor. "Please reseat the line card". "It's a fixed chassis, should I use a cold chisel or an angle grinder?". "Download this IOS" - but that's XE, and this is an XR box...

    ...and the old "meet the response SLA by asking the customer questions, for the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th time, that they provided the answers to in the original case creation".

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  • From niter3@21:1/199 to tassiebob on Wed Oct 23 08:53:00 2024
    Lack of knowledge is another factor. "Please reseat the line card". "It's a fixed chassis, should I use a cold chisel or an angle grinder?". "Download this IOS" - but that's XE, and this is an XR box...

    :D

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  • From David Gonzalez@21:3/188 to All on Fri Oct 25 21:31:12 2024
    * Forwarded from FSX_MYS by David Gonzalez (21:3/188).
    * Originally by: DavidG (21:3/188), 15 Oct 24 16:58.
    * Originally to: all.

    *I will try this again maybe it got lost or I might have missed the replies.*

    Hi All,

    I'm restring my BBS journey with Mystic which I've found to be complete and easy to use *except* for the afct that whenever I use the built-in ANSI editor and specifically I change (translate into panish) the ansimhdr, it gets screwed, my edits show buy the variables showing From/to/subj all of the msg details vanish, even if I use OVR on the editor and nothing else, they just dissapear.

    Does anyone kno of a working of of editing ANSI screens/headers and not messing the up in the process?. I mean if te Mystic built-in editor screws them, what else can I use?.

    Best regards and thanks

    PS: Any menus translated into Spanish?, please not from Spais, not partocurarly fond of the way they call stuff, yup same language but we do not have "fecheros" here, we have "archivos" (files).

    -+-
    Best Regards/Saludos
    David Gonzalez (Mister G)
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    David


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  • From Accession@21:1/200 to David Gonzalez on Sat Oct 26 08:39:24 2024
    On Sat, Oct 26 02:31:12 -0500, you wrote:

    I'm restring my BBS journey with Mystic which I've found to be complete and easy to use *except* for the afct that whenever I use the built-in ANSI editor and specifically I change (translate into panish) the ansimhdr, it gets screwed, my edits show buy the variables showing From/ to/subj all of the msg details vanish, even if I use OVR on the editor
    and nothing else, they just dissapear.

    What are you trying to translate at this point in time, and why? Just try creating the ansi, plugging in the MCI codes (which if we're just referring to From/To/Subj/Date/Time, those really don't need to be translated? I don't think Mystic's MCI codes are usable in multiple languages. You're better off using the MCI code as is, and if it needs translation after the fact, do that in your string editor or language "theme" or whatever.

    Otherwise, Pablodraw seems to work fine for me. I'm not sure what the state of Mystic's ANSI editor is, or if it was ever fine tuned for more detailed tasks, so that might be something someone else will have to chime in on.

    Does anyone kno of a working of of editing ANSI screens/headers and not messing the up in the process?. I mean if te Mystic built-in editor
    screws them, what else can I use?.

    From what I recall, opening the ansi screen, and putting your MCI codes where you want and in the color you want them is all that is needed. I never knew there was any translation in the editor itself.

    You could also try just using a text editor and plugging in the MCI codes where you want them, but since the ansi isn't translated, it might be a little more difficult to position them where you want them.

    What I've done in the past, is just open the ansi with a text editor, and go to the very last character on the last line. Then, with MCI positioning codes (ie: (pipe)[Xxx and (pipe)[Yyy) put the cursor where I want it, then put the MCI code for the display, then locate the cursor to the next location, etc. A little more tedious but then all of your extra work is at the end of the file, and not mixed up in the middle of the ansi.

    PS: Any menus translated into Spanish?, please not from Spais, not partocurarly fond of the way they call stuff, yup same language but we
    do not have "fecheros" here, we have "archivos" (files).

    Honestly, I don't know. I think at some point g00r00 was looking for people to translate to different languages, but nobody jumped forward with any ambition.

    As for Spanish, I'm fairly certain there's a few sysops in South America running Mystic, and if, by chance, they're not connected here (FSX) they most likely are connected to Fidonet. You could try them, but other than that, you might be on your own to do the translation. :(

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From tassiebob@21:3/169 to David Gonzalez on Sun Oct 27 10:29:14 2024
    I'm restring my BBS journey with Mystic which I've found to be complete and easy to use *except* for the afct that whenever I use the built-in ANSI editor and specifically I change (translate into panish) the ansimhdr, it gets screwed, my edits show buy the variables showing From/to/subj all of the msg details vanish, even if I use OVR on the editor and nothing else, they just dissapear.

    That sounds like the ANSI editor is somehow losing, or corrupting, the display codes that cause Mystic to display that information. Strikes me as a bit odd that Mystic's own ANSI editor would do that (you'd think if anything was going to work, it would).

    Does anyone kno of a working of of editing ANSI screens/headers and not messing the up in the process?. I mean if te Mystic built-in editor
    screws them, what else can I use?.

    I"ve just been using vi myself - but then I've only been doing small tweaks. If/when I do more substantial things then I'll use an ANSI editor. I've installed icy_draw to play with - just haven't had any playing time, so can't vouch for how well it works.

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  • From David Gonzalez@21:3/188 to tassiebob on Sun Oct 27 22:15:22 2024

    Hello tassiebob!

    27 Oct 24 10:29, you wrote to me:

    I'm restring my BBS journey with Mystic which I've found to be
    complete and easy to use *except* for the afct that whenever I
    use the built-in ANSI editor and specifically I change (translate
    into panish) the ansimhdr, it gets screwed, my edits show buy the
    variables showing From/to/subj all of the msg details vanish,
    even if I use OVR on the editor and nothing else, they just
    dissapear.

    That sounds like the ANSI editor is somehow losing, or corrupting, the display codes that cause Mystic to display that information. Strikes
    me as a bit odd that Mystic's own ANSI editor would do that (you'd
    think if anything was going to work, it would).

    Those were my exact same thoughts, if Mystic's editor cannot do it, nothing can, and as all you know it's hard to mess somethuing up and then try toi get it back thw way it was so I play safe and *always* make copies of folders I want to edit.

    Does anyone kno of a working of of editing ANSI screens/headers
    and not messing the up in the process?. I mean if te Mystic
    built-in editor screws them, what else can I use?.

    I"ve just been using vi myself - but then I've only been doing small tweaks. If/when I do more substantial things then I'll use an ANSI editor. I've installed icy_draw to play with - just haven't had any playing time, so can't vouch for how well it works.

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    David


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  • From Alonzo@21:1/130 to tassiebob on Thu Oct 31 09:39:45 2024
    Does anyone kno of a working of of editing ANSI screens/headers and n messing the up in the process?. I mean if te Mystic built-in editor screws them, what else can I use?.

    I use Moebius to edit ANSI screens. It's great. Here is a link to
    download it:

    https://blocktronics.github.io/moebius/

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