If I am new to the idea of podcasting, should i just write an outline of what i want to talk about and just have natural conversation or should I just write out entirely what I want to say like a book on tape?


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Re: podcasting
By: Utopian Galt to All on Fri Jul 29 2022 08:36 am

If I am new to the idea of podcasting, should i just write an outline of wha i want to talk about and just have natural conversation or should I just wri out entirely what I want to say like a book on tape?

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I have heard some podcasts in which the speaker mainly read a pre-established script. It sounded very artificial and most certainly not worth listening to.

If you want to do a good podcasts it is better to have an outline of which subjects you want to touch. THen brting people who knows those subjects and let them speak.

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If I am new to the idea of podcasting, should i just write an outline of what i want to talk about and just have natural conversation or should
I just write out entirely what I want to say like a book on tape?

I think this really depends on you. I would suggest doing a coouple of test recordings doing it both ways. That way you find out which way works best for you. I know for myself the former was better but of course I had two co=hosts as well.

Another advantage of doing some tests, is you can try to find a workflow that works for you. For example for me, I liked using a mixer for my podcast since I could mix in multiple sources at once and I recorded it to a digital voice recorder. Other people like recording a bunch of tracks and then mixing those together.

No matter what, you will find your way. You will just have to do some tesitng to find out what works best for you and your podcast.

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If I am new to the idea of podcasting, should i just write an outline of what i want to talk about and just have natural conversation or should
I just write out entirely what I want to say like a book on tape?

I've worked with a couple of podcasters, no one you would know. Go halfway.

Reading from a script can sound exactly like, reading from a script... If you can make it sound like you are not, do that.

Natural conversation, if you are doing it alone, sounds like someone just having a stream of consciousness ramble. With others, it can lack focus.

Some people can make a script come alive, some can talk off the cuff and make it flow and be coherent. Most can't. One rare example where it works is Protesilaeous Stavrou's podcast, he reads his articles, but since they are dense, it feel more like an 'audiobook'. Someone else I knew did that, but it felt just like reading an article. In short, reading word for word text, the text better be well written and well delivered.

There are too many podcasters/YouTuber, who pick a simple topic like, say, why you shouldn't
really use the desktop to store icons/files, and ramble for 15 minutes. These unscripted rambles are repetitive, pointless, way, way too long. Don't do that either.

Make sure the podcast is focused, have a point, and unless you can do the unscripted conversation like Joe Rogan (I'm sure he plans quite a bit), write an outline, what you're going to say, the points you're going to cover, and budget time.

What will your podcast be on?

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On 29 Jul 2022, Utopian Galt said the following...

If I am new to the idea of podcasting, should i just write an outline of what i want to talk about and just have natural conversation or should
I just write out entirely what I want to say like a book on tape?

Depends on the format of your show. I highly advise writing a script. Even if it's just bullet points, work from a script.

I read a script verbatim because I don't trust myself to speak off the top of my head. As someone else mentioned here, that can sound stilted, so you have to write the script conversationally. Reading a script without sounding like you're reading is a skill itself.

Record in a space that doesn't have a lot of reverb if possible. I record in either a treated studio space, or my walk-in closet.

Also, no matter what you do, edit. Edit out uhms and other crutch words, along with dead air ... and run your final audio file through something like auphonic.com so it's loud enough.

Good luck launching your show!

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On 07-29-22 08:36, Utopian Galt wrote to All <=-

If I am new to the idea of podcasting, should i just write an outline
of what i want to talk about and just have natural conversation or
should I just write out entirely what I want to say like a book on
tape?

I can only speak for myself. I prefer to minimise the amount of handling that I do (I've done public speaking and community radio interviews , rather than podcasting), so I've always been more of a "work out the main points and do the rest on the fly" type of person - a set of notes with dot points is enough.

And as others have pointed out, it probably sounds more natural.


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I can only speak for myself. I prefer to minimise the amount of
handling that I do (I've done public speaking and community radio interviews , rather than podcasting), so I've always been more of a
"work out the main points and do the rest on the fly" type of person
- a set of notes with dot points is enough.

Long story short: I grew up in a religious family (grandfather is a pastor).

When I was in my late teens/early 20's I was tasked to give a talk to the congregation (at another church). The first time I had to do that I was a nervous wreck. I wrote the script and pretty much looks like a robot reading from a piece of paper.

Even though everyone could see I was nervous, they said I did a good job and asked if I would be willing to give another talk sometime, which I agreed to.

I've always been more of a "work out the main points and do the rest
on the fly" type of person - a set of notes with dot points is enough.

This is what I ended up doing. I could come up with a script in my head and then just write down the bullet points. I would come to the podium with recipe card with those bullet points written on it, which allowed the talk to sound more natural. I was told I had a knack for public speaking, being described as "melodic" at a few points.

I got so good at giving talks that I was asked to speak at a conference in front of a couple thousand people. Nervous Jay really shone through that
day.


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If I am new to the idea of podcasting, should i just write an outline of what i want to talk about and just have natural conversation or should
I just write out entirely what I want to say like a book on tape?

I think an outline w/ off the cuff speech SOUNDS the best, but I'm just a listener... there are a couple examples I'll list below, in case you don't already know of them;

Linux Unplugged - uses an outline, chatting about 5-10 topics that are listed in the podcast notes

Modem Mischief - uses a script to tell stories about computer hacking and security



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Utopian Galt wrote to All <=-

If I am new to the idea of podcasting, should i just write an outline
of what i want to talk about and just have natural conversation or
should I just write out entirely what I want to say like a book on
tape?

It depends on your content.

Scott Siegler makes a good living mostly reading his books for his podcasts (with a little conversation).

Most of the others that I listen to at least, are mostly reading a pre-written script (i.e. telling some sort of story).

I do have 2 that I listen to that are a bunch of guys having a conversation about a topic. I have to admit that most of the time, they just put me to sleep.


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Utopian Galt wrote to All <=-

If I am new to the idea of podcasting, should i just write an outline
of what i want to talk about and just have natural conversation or
should I just write out entirely what I want to say like a book on
tape?

I like the "Create Once, use Many Times" paradigm.

Start out writing a blog - on a domain name that you own. Create meaningful blog entries with structure about your topic.

SEO the hell out of it. Build a newsletter/email list offering your "best
ofs" as a PDF or something as a carrot.

Use the blog posts as Facebook posts on a page dedicated to your web site/efforts (not a personal feed) and dabble with ads pointing back to your web site.

Make each blog post a podcast episode.

If you're lucky, make each blog post a chapter, assemble them into a book.

Voila! Omnimedia mogul!





I give great advice. I should follow it sometime.


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On 07-30-22 06:49, Warpslide wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Long story short: I grew up in a religious family (grandfather is a pastor).

Ahh, OK, cool. :)

When I was in my late teens/early 20's I was tasked to give a talk to
the congregation (at another church). The first time I had to do that
I was a nervous wreck. I wrote the script and pretty much looks like a robot reading from a piece of paper.

Can happen. I have too ADHD in my makeup to write the whole thing out :D

I've always been more of a "work out the main points and do the rest
on the fly" type of person - a set of notes with dot points is enough.

This is what I ended up doing. I could come up with a script in my
head and then just write down the bullet points. I would come to the podium with recipe card with those bullet points written on it, which allowed the talk to sound more natural. I was told I had a knack for public speaking, being described as "melodic" at a few points.

I've had good feedback. As a kid and into my early 20s, I used to hate public speaking, but I found my feet by giving talks at ham radio clubs on various aspects of the hobby that I knew, then later diversified my subject matter. Even taken on a couple of challenging topics. Today, I enjoy public speaking, though I still get nervous (a good sign in my book)

Mostly, my cheat notes are my Powerpoint slides. :)

I got so good at giving talks that I was asked to speak at a conference
in front of a couple thousand people. Nervous Jay really shone through that day.

Cool, I've spoken at international conferences myself.


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