Hi all, so this weekend i finally bought a bluray / M-disk burner, and a
stack of 25 gig bluray disks. i am now in the process of backing up 1.2 terabytes of data (movies/ogg/BBS). from my current calculations, its going
to take about 50 disks to backup everything. next payday, might just buy the 150 gig m-disks. it would reduce the amount of disks down to 8. ;-) plus m-disks are certified to last 1000 years. (at least thats what nasa claims) that way if something bad happens to my computer i have a known and tested backup. i also need to do a full VM backup of my servers.... that will definatly require 150 gig bluray disks.

Thanks
- Gamecube Buddy

telnet --<{bbs.hive32.com:23333}>--

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Hive32 (21:4/129)

On 25 Jan 2021, gcubebuddy said the following...

Hi all, so this weekend i finally bought a bluray / M-disk burner, and a stack of 25 gig bluray disks. i am now in the process of backing up 1.2 terabytes of data (movies/ogg/BBS). from my current calculations, its going to take about 50 disks to backup everything. next payday, might
just buy the 150 gig m-disks. it would reduce the amount of disks down
to 8. ;-) plus m-disks are certified to last 1000 years. (at least thats what nasa claims) that way if something bad happens to my computer i
have a known and tested backup. i also need to do a full VM backup of my servers.... that will definatly require 150 gig bluray disks.

Reading through your post I can't imagine that this is cost or time effective way to backup, especially since HDD's are so cheap.

-=- Gary aka HSM -=-
-=Mystic.BBSGameTime.com=-

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/01/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: BBS GameTime - mystic.BBSGameTime.com:23 (21:2/162)

On 25 Jan 2021, HSM said the following...

Reading through your post I can't imagine that this is cost or time effective way to backup, especially since HDD's are so cheap.

I'm thinking along those lines too. The only real positive I can think of is the decay lifespan 100 years or so is way better than everything else.


- Andre

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: Runaan BBS (21:3/117)

Hi gcubebuddy,

Just out of pure curiosity, are you doing this specifically to have a (1000 year) point-in-time archive backup?

I ask because I recently purchased a small NAS which I have backing up to a USB hard drive as well as an old computer I set up with TrueNAS. Aside from none of these destinations being off-site, I was pretty happy with my backup efforts - but always struggled with whether I should write to some kind of media and store them at someone else's house, just for piece of mind. I wrote that off
as "too much" but then I saw your post and it re-sparked the thought. Just wanted to get your thoughts to add to my own.

Thanks,
Jay

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Technically BBS (21:1/168)

This weekend I just discovered Mestic as a backup tool... That coupled with BackBlaze B2 makes for a good offsite backup solution that meets my --albeit small-- needs.

JF

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Linux/64)
* Origin: bitHaven BBS (21:1/139)

JF wrote (2021-01-25):

This weekend I just discovered Mestic as a backup tool...

^^^^^^

restic?

---
* Origin: . (21:3/102)

On 25 Jan 2021, jayb said the following...

I ask because I recently purchased a small NAS which I have backing up
to a USB hard drive as well as an old computer I set up with TrueNAS. Aside from none of these destinations being off-site, I was pretty happy with my backup efforts - but always struggled with whether I should
write to some kind of media and store them at someone else's house, just for piece of mind. I wrote that off as "too much" but then I saw your
post and it re-sparked the thought. Just wanted to get your thoughts to add to my own.

Wouldn't it be easier to save a back-up to some cloud server like DropBox or something?


Not entirely on topic, but topic adjacent, years ago I got a couple servers being taken out of service, along with several random tape drives, etc. It
was the early to mid 90's. I had the idea of setting up a remote data
storage facility for small businesses using dial-up technology. Unfortuneately, I could never get it going.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: theoasisbbs.ddns.net:1357 (21:4/127)

terabytes of data (movies/ogg/BBS). from my current calculations, its going to take about 50 disks to backup everything. next payday, might
just buy the 150 gig m-disks. it would reduce the amount of disks down

I'm surprised you're trusting some blu-ray discs!

But backing up all the porn on m-discs sounds like a better idea. :)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Compufuck | Binghamton, NY | compufuck.xyz (21:1/197)

This weekend I just discovered Mestic as a backup tool...

^^^^^^

restic?

Oops, yes. :)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Linux/64)
* Origin: bitHaven BBS (21:1/139)

Hey JF,

Just had a quick look at Backblaze, thanks for sharing. Going to give it a closer look, but honestly I never considered cloud storage for my data at
all. I'd really only consider it for a subset of my data (family photos,
some music I've recorded etc). Anything else I lost would be an
inconvenience at best, and lots and lots and lots of time lost :) beyond
that, nothing life altering.

Jay

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Technically BBS (21:1/168)

You're right, it likely would be easier to save to cloud, but a lot of my
data really isn't worth the cost of storing it in the cloud.

I back up my photos and documents using a couple of different cloud
services (I pay for Google Drive for my Chromebook and my Pixel, and I have OneDrive as part of my O365 sub), but most of the rest of my data is just
stuff I've accumulated over my years online. Old software, documents, etc..
I think I even have old Amnuts code that friends of mine and I modified back
in the day. Star Trek themed if I'm not mistaken :) ... and my DVD
collection, digitized for Plex.

I don't have a ton of data that's important enough for cloud. That's why I figured a USB copy that I drop off at my mom's every month or so would at
least give me a point in time to start from if something terrible should
happen and all three on-site copies got nuked by a virus, corrupted or turned to dust. :)

Jay

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Technically BBS (21:1/168)

On 25 Jan 2021, jayb said the following...

You're right, it likely would be easier to save to cloud, but a lot of my data really isn't worth the cost of storing it in the cloud.

I back up my photos and documents using a couple of different cloud services (I pay for Google Drive for my Chromebook and my Pixel, and I have OneDrive as part of my O365 sub), but most of the rest of my data
is just stuff I've accumulated over my years online. Old software, documents, etc.. I think I even have old Amnuts code that friends of
mine and I modified back in the day. Star Trek themed if I'm not
mistaken :) ... and my DVD collection, digitized for Plex.

I've got a lot of photos. Several years ago I scanned all of my wife's and mother-in-laws family photos, some of which I may now have the only copies of due to flood damage, etc. I also used to do genealogy research on my wufes family, and had merged it with ~30 years of research my father gave me at the time of my family, all in all somewhere around 250,000 people.

At this point, nothing else I have is worth saving. I had a bad habit of testing software and hardware for years without backing things up first, so things like stories or peotry I wrote vanished with system crashes.

So the photos/genarology data are only several CD's multiple copies, and on dropbox and a few other "free" versions of cloud storage I've tried out iver the years.

I don't have a ton of data that's important enough for cloud. That's why
I figured a USB copy that I drop off at my mom's every month or so would at least give me a point in time to start from if something terrible should happen and all three on-site copies got nuked by a virus,
corrupted or turned to dust. :)

It makes sense. I had CDs/DVDs of files I collected packed up and stored in
a shed, which was lost due to a tree falling on it. Mostly it was just old
DOS programs I tried out over yje years, or various operating systems, but still upsetting.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: theoasisbbs.ddns.net:1357

Hi Jay!

(family photos, some music I've recorded etc). Anything else I lost
would be an inconvenience at best, and lots and lots and lots of time
lost :) beyond that, nothing life altering.

Same here, most of my data is already hosted on the Cloud, so I don't have
much need for a separate backup.

As I've mentioned previously, I'm using Restic to backup my BBS stuff, and whether the repository is on the cloud or local, it doesn't make much difference... I wouldn't say one is more trouble than the other. It's pretty much transparent.

I think B2 (Backblaze) has the first 10GB free, and each extra GB is
0.005$/mo, so that's pretty reasonable.

JF

PS: I don't work for Backblaze. :)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Linux/64)
* Origin: bitHaven BBS (21:1/139)

jayb around Monday, January 25th...

Just had a quick look at Backblaze, thanks for sharing. Going to give it a closer look, but honestly I never considered cloud storage for my data

I missed the original message, but FWIW I've been using Backblaze for many years now. I have a few TB in their storage... and have used it for recovery.
Something that really helped sell them to me at one point: I needed to recover a large amount of data. They offer various options one of which is sending you a USB external -- but the options they had didn't include a drive large enough, so I mailed their support. I got a response from the CEO stating they have drives laying around all over the place so it was a non-issue. And bam, I get my data back.

I've also recovered via ZIP downloads and the like a number of times.

Anyway, +1. $4/month for that is pretty amazing. I back up locally to more than one box and that is mirrored to Backblaze.


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Well, i live in tornado Alley. so, i wanted to make sure that i had something that - if all else failed i can back up from, and store at a remote location. also HDDs are still a bit of an expense for me. since i have so few of them that have 2 tb storage, i tend to use them for multipal projects. i saved for
a few months in order to buy the 8tb drives.

On 25 Jan 2021, HSM said the following...

On 25 Jan 2021, gcubebuddy said the following...

Hi all, so this weekend i finally bought a bluray / M-disk burner, an stack of 25 gig bluray disks. i am now in the process of backing up 1 terabytes of data (movies/ogg/BBS). from my current calculations, its going to take about 50 disks to backup everything. next payday, might just buy the 150 gig m-disks. it would reduce the amount of disks dow to 8. ;-) plus m-disks are certified to last 1000 years. (at least th what nasa claims) that way if something bad happens to my computer i have a known and tested backup. i also need to do a full VM backup of servers.... that will definatly require 150 gig bluray disks.

Reading through your post I can't imagine that this is cost or time effective way to backup, especially since HDD's are so cheap.

-=- Gary aka HSM -=-
-=Mystic.BBSGameTime.com=-

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/01/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: BBS GameTime - mystic.BBSGameTime.com:23 (21:2/162)

Thanks
- Gamecube Buddy

telnet --<{bbs.hive32.com:23333}>--

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Hive32 (21:4/129)

Yes, i was wanting something a bit more permanate than an HDD. if you drop an HDD - its dead. SSDs are still expensive and espically for 2tb and above.
the backups are mostly for movies and music i host off my plex server. that
way i dont have to pirate - err - i mean *borrow* it again off the inet. lol
i have read about the M-disks, which are the size of blurays but have the
1000 year shelflife storage. apparently they are made out of carbon and are approved by NASA for archiveal storage long term. im also hoping they will survive a solar flare / EMP even simular to the Kerrington event back in the mid to late 1800s.


On 25 Jan 2021, jayb said the following...

Hi gcubebuddy,

Just out of pure curiosity, are you doing this specifically to have a (1000 year) point-in-time archive backup?

I ask because I recently purchased a small NAS which I have backing up
to a USB hard drive as well as an old computer I set up with TrueNAS. Aside from none of these destinations being off-site, I was pretty happy with my backup efforts - but always struggled with whether I should
write to some kind of media and store them at someone else's house, just for piece of mind. I wrote that off as "too much" but then I saw your
post and it re-sparked the thought. Just wanted to get your thoughts to add to my own.

Thanks,
Jay

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Technically BBS (21:1/168)

Thanks
- Gamecube Buddy

telnet --<{bbs.hive32.com:23333}>--

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Hive32 (21:4/129)

well, here is the thing with "cloud" backup. basicly anything you store on
that "cloud" remote server, then becomes the property of the corporation
which is allowing that server. and as we have seen from major IT corps, if
they dont like the stuff you say, think, identify with, or match any of
their ideologies, they shut down your account and delete all your data. in 2021, i am very sceptical and apprehensive about storing ANY of my backup
data with a remote cloud based service. that is why i run my own NAS on my
own gear. that way i own and control the backup. the vast majority of the multi-national IT corps, have shown that they cannot be trusted, from selling out their custoemrs to the corp parnters in communist china. (no offense to
any one from china..)

"cloud storage" or "SAAS" (Storage As A Platform) is what i like to call "Storing my shit on other peoples computers" lol
but ya that is why i do not go that route.



On 25 Jan 2021, Barmed said the following...

On 25 Jan 2021, jayb said the following...

I ask because I recently purchased a small NAS which I have backing u to a USB hard drive as well as an old computer I set up with TrueNAS. Aside from none of these destinations being off-site, I was pretty ha with my backup efforts - but always struggled with whether I should write to some kind of media and store them at someone else's house, j for piece of mind. I wrote that off as "too much" but then I saw your post and it re-sparked the thought. Just wanted to get your thoughts add to my own.

Wouldn't it be easier to save a back-up to some cloud server like
DropBox or something?

Not entirely on topic, but topic adjacent, years ago I got a couple servers being taken out of service, along with several random tape
drives, etc. It was the early to mid 90's. I had the idea of setting
up a remote data storage facility for small businesses using dial-up technology. Unfortuneately, I could never get it going.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: theoasisbbs.ddns.net:1357 (21:4/127)

Thanks
- Gamecube Buddy

telnet --<{bbs.hive32.com:23333}>--

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Hive32 (21:4/129)

Well, i live in tornado Alley. so, i wanted to make sure that i had something that - if all else failed i can back up from, and store at a remote location. also HDDs are still a bit of an expense for me. since i have so few of them that have 2 tb storage, i tend to use them for multipal projects. i saved for
a few months in order to buy the 8tb drives.

On 25 Jan 2021, HSM said the following...

On 25 Jan 2021, gcubebuddy said the following...

Hi all, so this weekend i finally bought a bluray / M-disk burner, an stack of 25 gig bluray disks. i am now in the process of backing up 1 terabytes of data (movies/ogg/BBS). from my current calculations, its going to take about 50 disks to backup everything. next payday, might just buy the 150 gig m-disks. it would reduce the amount of disks dow to 8. ;-) plus m-disks are certified to last 1000 years. (at least th what nasa claims) that way if something bad happens to my computer i have a known and tested backup. i also need to do a full VM backup of servers.... that will definatly require 150 gig bluray disks.

Reading through your post I can't imagine that this is cost or time effective way to backup, especially since HDD's are so cheap.

-=- Gary aka HSM -=-
-=Mystic.BBSGameTime.com=-

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/01/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: BBS GameTime - mystic.BBSGameTime.com:23 (21:2/162)

Thanks
- Gamecube Buddy

telnet --<{bbs.hive32.com:23333}>--

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Hive32 (21:4/129)

Yes, i was wanting something a bit more permanate than an HDD. if you drop an HDD - its dead. SSDs are still expensive and espically for 2tb and above.
the backups are mostly for movies and music i host off my plex server. that
way i dont have to pirate - err - i mean *borrow* it again off the inet. lol
i have read about the M-disks, which are the size of blurays but have the
1000 year shelflife storage. apparently they are made out of carbon and are approved by NASA for archiveal storage long term. im also hoping they will survive a solar flare / EMP even simular to the Kerrington event back in the mid to late 1800s.


On 25 Jan 2021, jayb said the following...

Hi gcubebuddy,

Just out of pure curiosity, are you doing this specifically to have a (1000 year) point-in-time archive backup?

I ask because I recently purchased a small NAS which I have backing up
to a USB hard drive as well as an old computer I set up with TrueNAS. Aside from none of these destinations being off-site, I was pretty happy with my backup efforts - but always struggled with whether I should
write to some kind of media and store them at someone else's house, just for piece of mind. I wrote that off as "too much" but then I saw your
post and it re-sparked the thought. Just wanted to get your thoughts to add to my own.

Thanks,
Jay

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Technically BBS (21:1/168)

Thanks
- Gamecube Buddy

telnet --<{bbs.hive32.com:23333}>--

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Hive32 (21:4/129)

well, here is the thing with "cloud" backup. basicly anything you store on
that "cloud" remote server, then becomes the property of the corporation
which is allowing that server. and as we have seen from major IT corps, if
they dont like the stuff you say, think, identify with, or match any of
their ideologies, they shut down your account and delete all your data. in 2021, i am very sceptical and apprehensive about storing ANY of my backup
data with a remote cloud based service. that is why i run my own NAS on my
own gear. that way i own and control the backup. the vast majority of the multi-national IT corps, have shown that they cannot be trusted, from selling out their custoemrs to the corp parnters in communist china. (no offense to
any one from china..)

"cloud storage" or "SAAS" (Storage As A Platform) is what i like to call "Storing my shit on other peoples computers" lol
but ya that is why i do not go that route.



On 25 Jan 2021, Barmed said the following...

On 25 Jan 2021, jayb said the following...

I ask because I recently purchased a small NAS which I have backing u to a USB hard drive as well as an old computer I set up with TrueNAS. Aside from none of these destinations being off-site, I was pretty ha with my backup efforts - but always struggled with whether I should write to some kind of media and store them at someone else's house, j for piece of mind. I wrote that off as "too much" but then I saw your post and it re-sparked the thought. Just wanted to get your thoughts add to my own.

Wouldn't it be easier to save a back-up to some cloud server like
DropBox or something?

Not entirely on topic, but topic adjacent, years ago I got a couple servers being taken out of service, along with several random tape
drives, etc. It was the early to mid 90's. I had the idea of setting
up a remote data storage facility for small businesses using dial-up technology. Unfortuneately, I could never get it going.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: theoasisbbs.ddns.net:1357 (21:4/127)

Thanks
- Gamecube Buddy

telnet --<{bbs.hive32.com:23333}>--

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Hive32 (21:4/129)

Hi all, so this weekend i finally bought a bluray / M-disk burner, and a
stack of 25 gig bluray disks. i am now in the process of backing up 1.2 terabytes of data (movies/ogg/BBS). from my current calculations, its going
to take about 50 disks to backup everything. next payday, might just buy the 150 gig m-disks. it would reduce the amount of disks down to 8. ;-) plus m-disks are certified to last 1000 years. (at least thats what nasa claims) that way if something bad happens to my computer i have a known and tested backup. i also need to do a full VM backup of my servers.... that will definatly require 150 gig bluray disks.

Thanks
- Gamecube Buddy

telnet --<{bbs.hive32.com:23333}>--

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Hive32 (21:4/129)

On 25 Jan 2021, gcubebuddy said the following...

Hi all, so this weekend i finally bought a bluray / M-disk burner, and a stack of 25 gig bluray disks. i am now in the process of backing up 1.2 terabytes of data (movies/ogg/BBS). from my current calculations, its going to take about 50 disks to backup everything. next payday, might
just buy the 150 gig m-disks. it would reduce the amount of disks down
to 8. ;-) plus m-disks are certified to last 1000 years. (at least thats what nasa claims) that way if something bad happens to my computer i
have a known and tested backup. i also need to do a full VM backup of my servers.... that will definatly require 150 gig bluray disks.

Reading through your post I can't imagine that this is cost or time effective way to backup, especially since HDD's are so cheap.

-=- Gary aka HSM -=-
-=Mystic.BBSGameTime.com=-

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/01/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: BBS GameTime - mystic.BBSGameTime.com:23 (21:2/162)

On 25 Jan 2021, HSM said the following...

Reading through your post I can't imagine that this is cost or time effective way to backup, especially since HDD's are so cheap.

I'm thinking along those lines too. The only real positive I can think of is the decay lifespan 100 years or so is way better than everything else.


- Andre

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: Runaan BBS (21:3/117)

Hi gcubebuddy,

Just out of pure curiosity, are you doing this specifically to have a (1000 year) point-in-time archive backup?

I ask because I recently purchased a small NAS which I have backing up to a USB hard drive as well as an old computer I set up with TrueNAS. Aside from none of these destinations being off-site, I was pretty happy with my backup efforts - but always struggled with whether I should write to some kind of media and store them at someone else's house, just for piece of mind. I wrote that off
as "too much" but then I saw your post and it re-sparked the thought. Just wanted to get your thoughts to add to my own.

Thanks,
Jay

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Technically BBS (21:1/168)

This weekend I just discovered Mestic as a backup tool... That coupled with BackBlaze B2 makes for a good offsite backup solution that meets my --albeit small-- needs.

JF

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Linux/64)
* Origin: bitHaven BBS (21:1/139)

JF wrote (2021-01-25):

This weekend I just discovered Mestic as a backup tool...

^^^^^^

restic?

---
* Origin: . (21:3/102)

On 25 Jan 2021, jayb said the following...

I ask because I recently purchased a small NAS which I have backing up
to a USB hard drive as well as an old computer I set up with TrueNAS. Aside from none of these destinations being off-site, I was pretty happy with my backup efforts - but always struggled with whether I should
write to some kind of media and store them at someone else's house, just for piece of mind. I wrote that off as "too much" but then I saw your
post and it re-sparked the thought. Just wanted to get your thoughts to add to my own.

Wouldn't it be easier to save a back-up to some cloud server like DropBox or something?


Not entirely on topic, but topic adjacent, years ago I got a couple servers being taken out of service, along with several random tape drives, etc. It
was the early to mid 90's. I had the idea of setting up a remote data
storage facility for small businesses using dial-up technology. Unfortuneately, I could never get it going.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: theoasisbbs.ddns.net:1357 (21:4/127)

terabytes of data (movies/ogg/BBS). from my current calculations, its going to take about 50 disks to backup everything. next payday, might
just buy the 150 gig m-disks. it would reduce the amount of disks down

I'm surprised you're trusting some blu-ray discs!

But backing up all the porn on m-discs sounds like a better idea. :)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Compufuck | Binghamton, NY | compufuck.xyz (21:1/197)

This weekend I just discovered Mestic as a backup tool...

^^^^^^

restic?

Oops, yes. :)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Linux/64)
* Origin: bitHaven BBS (21:1/139)

Hey JF,

Just had a quick look at Backblaze, thanks for sharing. Going to give it a closer look, but honestly I never considered cloud storage for my data at
all. I'd really only consider it for a subset of my data (family photos,
some music I've recorded etc). Anything else I lost would be an
inconvenience at best, and lots and lots and lots of time lost :) beyond
that, nothing life altering.

Jay

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Technically BBS (21:1/168)

You're right, it likely would be easier to save to cloud, but a lot of my
data really isn't worth the cost of storing it in the cloud.

I back up my photos and documents using a couple of different cloud
services (I pay for Google Drive for my Chromebook and my Pixel, and I have OneDrive as part of my O365 sub), but most of the rest of my data is just
stuff I've accumulated over my years online. Old software, documents, etc..
I think I even have old Amnuts code that friends of mine and I modified back
in the day. Star Trek themed if I'm not mistaken :) ... and my DVD
collection, digitized for Plex.

I don't have a ton of data that's important enough for cloud. That's why I figured a USB copy that I drop off at my mom's every month or so would at
least give me a point in time to start from if something terrible should
happen and all three on-site copies got nuked by a virus, corrupted or turned to dust. :)

Jay

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Technically BBS (21:1/168)

On 25 Jan 2021, jayb said the following...

You're right, it likely would be easier to save to cloud, but a lot of my data really isn't worth the cost of storing it in the cloud.

I back up my photos and documents using a couple of different cloud services (I pay for Google Drive for my Chromebook and my Pixel, and I have OneDrive as part of my O365 sub), but most of the rest of my data
is just stuff I've accumulated over my years online. Old software, documents, etc.. I think I even have old Amnuts code that friends of
mine and I modified back in the day. Star Trek themed if I'm not
mistaken :) ... and my DVD collection, digitized for Plex.

I've got a lot of photos. Several years ago I scanned all of my wife's and mother-in-laws family photos, some of which I may now have the only copies of due to flood damage, etc. I also used to do genealogy research on my wufes family, and had merged it with ~30 years of research my father gave me at the time of my family, all in all somewhere around 250,000 people.

At this point, nothing else I have is worth saving. I had a bad habit of testing software and hardware for years without backing things up first, so things like stories or peotry I wrote vanished with system crashes.

So the photos/genarology data are only several CD's multiple copies, and on dropbox and a few other "free" versions of cloud storage I've tried out iver the years.

I don't have a ton of data that's important enough for cloud. That's why
I figured a USB copy that I drop off at my mom's every month or so would at least give me a point in time to start from if something terrible should happen and all three on-site copies got nuked by a virus,
corrupted or turned to dust. :)

It makes sense. I had CDs/DVDs of files I collected packed up and stored in
a shed, which was lost due to a tree falling on it. Mostly it was just old
DOS programs I tried out over yje years, or various operating systems, but still upsetting.

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Hi Jay!

(family photos, some music I've recorded etc). Anything else I lost
would be an inconvenience at best, and lots and lots and lots of time
lost :) beyond that, nothing life altering.

Same here, most of my data is already hosted on the Cloud, so I don't have
much need for a separate backup.

As I've mentioned previously, I'm using Restic to backup my BBS stuff, and whether the repository is on the cloud or local, it doesn't make much difference... I wouldn't say one is more trouble than the other. It's pretty much transparent.

I think B2 (Backblaze) has the first 10GB free, and each extra GB is
0.005$/mo, so that's pretty reasonable.

JF

PS: I don't work for Backblaze. :)

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jayb around Monday, January 25th...

Just had a quick look at Backblaze, thanks for sharing. Going to give it a closer look, but honestly I never considered cloud storage for my data

I missed the original message, but FWIW I've been using Backblaze for many years now. I have a few TB in their storage... and have used it for recovery.
Something that really helped sell them to me at one point: I needed to recover a large amount of data. They offer various options one of which is sending you a USB external -- but the options they had didn't include a drive large enough, so I mailed their support. I got a response from the CEO stating they have drives laying around all over the place so it was a non-issue. And bam, I get my data back.

I've also recovered via ZIP downloads and the like a number of times.

Anyway, +1. $4/month for that is pretty amazing. I back up locally to more than one box and that is mirrored to Backblaze.


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