• Re: Back to the BBS Ep. 5 Premieres Friday!

    From Avon@21:1/101 to Adept on Fri Aug 27 21:53:53 2021
    On 27 Aug 2021 at 04:18a, Adept pondered and said...

    I know what you're thinking, "How did you have room for everything el on your PalmPilot?" Not to worry, I had the 8 MEGABYTE expansion modu

    I dunno. I was thinking, "I wonder how good he was with Graffiti".

    that was despite my best efforts to master it .. a total pain in the rear.. sigh ;-)

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to gcubebuddy on Tue Aug 31 13:39:00 2021
    lol i rememeber having to set the dip switches on cards for our old 486DX.

    You had dipswitches? We used to dream about dipswitches, we only had molex headers and jumpers... :P

    Spec


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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to acn on Tue Aug 31 13:44:00 2021
    I also "only" had SoundBlaster cards. I can't remember which ones, I guess a SB16 and later an AWE64.

    Here, at least in the circles I moved, the AWE64 also suffered from support issues and it being a superset of the AWE32. Most things only supported the 32 and the bulk of people I knew that could afford to buy such things stuck with 32s

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Avon on Thu Sep 16 01:44:00 2021
    I never saw that impact when I used the software of the time on the machine of the same era but mileage may vary.

    It was predominantly PC/XT class software. Back then an RTC was uncommon in these rigs. So they have more of these timing loops than anything afterwards, they're all written to run at 4 or 8Mhz... by the time you hit 286 and you've got ~8Mhz+ RTC's are on board, and the software philosophy changes.

    Given the first system I laid hand too was a 286, the legacy software kicking around that suffered from these kind of issues were obsolete and relatively simple games. You could watch them run a million mile an hour..

    The other place it showed up for a while was... games written for early 386
    one that sticks in mind is Might and Magic III. Being an adventure game it didn't affect play greatly, but advances in CPU and GPU speed showed up
    greatly in animations. The bar tender leisurely wiping the bar in the pub
    on a 386SX16 moved to warp speed on a 386DX33/40...

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Avon on Mon Sep 20 07:18:00 2021
    suss out vinyl turntables, rotary telephones, what an overhead projector is, etc. etc... I'm getting old :)

    Last time I saw an overhead projector used in anger was mildly interesting.
    It was actually a signwriter, no don't see to many of them any more either. What he had was an old from someone who was going to throw it out, and he'd made a series of transparencies with various outlines, he cruise up to your sign space at dusk snarf some power, and presto instant outline on your window/wall/door. Instantly resizable through either distance or focus.

    He said it saved a motza in time, and he wasn't doing anything overly complicated with them, but it was nice to be able to work with a figure that was always scaled correctly, for the space and/or aspect ratio.

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  • From hyjinx@21:1/126 to dflorey on Thu Sep 30 17:49:09 2021
    On 26 Sep 2021, dflorey said the following...

    I've been watching this series just today, and all I can say is - ahh the memories :)

    Thanks for all the work that has gone into these episodes and looking forward to more...

    Many thanks Dave! I'm looking forward to the next episode, I reckon it's
    gonna be killer.

    I logged into tyour bbs, it's looking good. Hopefully I can get some access
    to download some of the files in there! Also I tried to reply to this message on your system but it didn't work, not sure if that's access related too.

    Cheers,
    Al


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  • From hyjinx@21:1/126 to All on Wed Aug 25 13:53:30 2021
    Hi All!
    It gives me great pleasure to announce that the next episode of Back to the
    BBS premieres LIVE on Friday Aug 27th at 2PM PDT/5PM EDT/10PM BST: youtu.be/z_heZ-lgzq0

    The episode is called 'The Underground' and it focusses on the beginnings of the Hacking, Phreaking, Anarchy, Virii, Cracking/Warez and Carding scenes.
    So, if you want to know where the darkweb came from, how 0-day warez games
    got started, how blowing a whistle from a cereal box gave you free calls, or how Kim Dotcom came to be worldwide phreaker on the run, then check it out! There are great interviews with Dan Smolders, 'deathr0w' and Shooter Jennings.

    I will be in the live chat on YouTube during the premiere to chat to you all, so please join in the fun with me! Depending upon interest, there may also be
    a live stream for discussion after the event. Let me know if you are
    interested in this.

    Cheers!


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  • From The Millionaire@21:1/183 to hyjinx on Tue Aug 24 19:01:04 2021

    Hi All!
    It gives me great pleasure to announce that the next episode of Back to the BBS premieres LIVE on Friday Aug 27th at 2PM PDT/5PM EDT/10PM BST: youtu.be/z_heZ-lgzq0

    The episode is called 'The Underground' and it focusses on the beginnings of the Hacking, Phreaking, Anarchy, Virii, Cracking/Warez and Carding scenes. So, if you want to know where the darkweb came from, how 0-day warez games got started, how blowing a whistle from a cereal box gave you free calls, or how Kim Dotcom came to be worldwide phreaker on the run, then check it out! There are great interviews with Dan Smolders, 'deathr0w' and Shooter Jennings.

    I will be in the live chat on YouTube during the premiere to chat to you all, so please join in the fun with me! Depending upon interest, there may also be a live stream for discussion after the event. Let me know if you are interested in this.

    Cheers!

    hyjinx // Alistair Ross
    Author of 'Back to the BBS' Documentary: https://bit.ly/3tRINeL (YouTube) alsgeeklab.com

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    How many parts do you plan to make? Is this the final one?

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  • From hyjinx@21:1/126 to The Millionaire on Wed Aug 25 15:03:54 2021

    How many parts do you plan to make? Is this the final one?

    Two more parts - One on modtrackers & the demoscene and the other covering
    the ANSI art scene. I might do a 'wrap up' episode at some point if I can be arsed...


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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to hyjinx on Wed Aug 25 15:35:04 2021
    On 25 Aug 2021 at 01:53p, hyjinx pondered and said...

    Hi All!
    It gives me great pleasure to announce that the next episode of Back to the BBS premieres LIVE on Friday Aug 27th at 2PM PDT/5PM EDT/10PM BST:

    Cool, looking forward to it :)

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  • From gcubebuddy@21:4/129 to hyjinx on Wed Aug 25 07:41:02 2021
    The episode is called 'The Underground' and it focusses on the
    beginnings of the Hacking, Phreaking, Anarchy, Virii, Cracking/Warez and Carding scenes. So, if you want to know where the darkweb came from, how 0-day warez games got started, how blowing a whistle from a cereal box gave you free calls, or how Kim Dotcom came to be worldwide phreaker on the run, then check it out! There are great interviews with Dan
    Smolders, 'deathr0w' and Shooter Jennings.

    Dude! thats awesome! did you cover the whole "Free Kevin Mitnik" movement? i remember when i first got on AOL in 1996, and started checking hacking and phone phreak sites, and ending up on Alt2600 and reading all the news on that lol. those were the days....

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  • From gcubebuddy@21:4/129 to hyjinx on Wed Aug 25 07:46:36 2021
    The episode is called 'The Underground' and it focusses on the
    beginnings of the Hacking, Phreaking, Anarchy, Virii, Cracking/Warez and Carding scenes. So, if you want to know where the darkweb came from, how

    also who could forget the classic book "Hacker Crackdown - Law and disorder
    in the Electronic Fronteer" and Captian Crunch lol

    Thanks
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  • From gcubebuddy@21:4/129 to The Millionaire on Wed Aug 25 07:48:42 2021
    How many parts do you plan to make? Is this the final one?

    i hope there are 24 + episodes :-) i am waiting for it to get picked up by netflix or hulu... that would be AWESOME!

    Thanks
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  • From gcubebuddy@21:4/129 to hyjinx on Wed Aug 25 07:55:52 2021
    Two more parts - One on modtrackers & the demoscene and the other
    covering the ANSI art scene. I might do a 'wrap up' episode at some
    point if I can be arsed...

    I hope you make a ton more :-) i love the show and rewatch them a lot.
    Its really cool to be a part of this community for the rise of BBS 2.0.
    It will be interesting to see where to community heads from this point in history onward. I love the thought that we are taking tech from the 1970 - 1990s and expanding on it and giving it even more depth. It really shows
    this communityes level of enginuity to repurpose the old tech like that and build on top of it.

    Thanks
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  • From hyjinx@21:1/126 to gcubebuddy on Thu Aug 26 16:04:20 2021
    How many parts do you plan to make? Is this the final one?

    i hope there are 24 + episodes :-) i am waiting for it to get picked up
    by netflix or hulu... that would be AWESOME!

    Heh, thanks! It's been fun, but it's a heck aof a lot of work. I don't anticipate doing much more than the next two episodes.


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  • From hyjinx@21:1/126 to gcubebuddy on Thu Aug 26 16:06:42 2021
    On 25 Aug 2021, gcubebuddy said the following...

    The episode is called 'The Underground' and it focusses on the

    also who could forget the classic book "Hacker Crackdown - Law and disorder in the Electronic Fronteer" and Captian Crunch lol


    I didn't got into the Mitrnick stuff, and I didn't really cover captain
    crunch much either (it's briefly mentioned), It's already 55 mins long, I
    could have had loads more stuff in this one, but this keeps pretty close to
    the 'BBS' theme.

    Cheers,
    Al


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  • From acn@21:3/127.1 to hyjinx on Thu Aug 26 11:34:00 2021
    Am 25.08.21 schrieb hyjinx@21:1/126 in FSX_GEN:

    Hallo hyjinx,

    It gives me great pleasure to announce that the next episode of Back to the BBS premieres LIVE on Friday Aug 27th at 2PM PDT/5PM EDT/10PM BST: youtu.be/z_heZ-lgzq0

    Cool, I'm looking forward to watch it!
    But I'll watch it a little later, as this is 11PM CEST, and I might be already asleep then ;-)

    Thank you for your videos!

    Regards,
    Anna

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to gcubebuddy on Wed Aug 25 07:25:00 2021
    gcubebuddy wrote to hyjinx <=-

    also who could forget the classic book "Hacker Crackdown - Law and disorder in the Electronic Fronteer" and Captian Crunch lol

    I loved that book, especially because it was one of the first books where
    the author released electronic copies for free with the suggestion to buy a paper copy if you liked it. I read that book while taking the light rail system in San Francisco into work, on my PalmPilot.

    I know what you're thinking, "How did you have room for everything else on your PalmPilot?" Not to worry, I had the 8 MEGABYTE expansion module.


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  • From Mindsurfer@21:3/119 to hyjinx on Wed Aug 25 19:37:38 2021
    It gives me great pleasure to announce that the next episode of
    Back to the BBS premieres LIVE on Friday Aug 27th at 2PM PDT/5PM

    Cool! Can't wait to watch it on Friday!

    Regards,
    Mindsurfer / Stephan

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  • From Adept@21:2/108 to gcubebuddy on Fri Aug 27 04:11:22 2021
    checking hacking and phone phreak sites, and ending up on Alt2600 and reading all the news on that lol. those were the days....

    I got a lifetime 2600 subscription maybe a decade ago, maybe a bit more. Sometimes I feel like I should find _something_ to buy from them, as it feels
    a bit odd to continually be getting more magazines for something I no longer pay for.

    I'm glad it still exists, though. I'm not sure how different things would be without it, but... I suppose I just have a soft spot for printed material, especially things where I'm not overly worried that the next page will be a sneaky ad or something.

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  • From Adept@21:2/108 to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Aug 27 04:18:00 2021
    I know what you're thinking, "How did you have room for everything else
    on your PalmPilot?" Not to worry, I had the 8 MEGABYTE expansion module.

    I dunno. I was thinking, "I wonder how good he was with Graffiti".

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Aug 27 22:52:42 2021
    On 25 Aug 2021 at 07:25a, poindexter FORTRAN pondered and said...

    to buy a paper copy if you liked it. I read that book while taking the light rail system in San Francisco into work, on my PalmPilot.

    I know what you're thinking, "How did you have room for everything else
    on your PalmPilot?" Not to worry, I had the 8 MEGABYTE expansion module.

    i still have my palmpilot.. it was cool back in the day ;-)

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Adept on Fri Aug 27 22:53:52 2021
    On 27 Aug 2021 at 04:18a, Adept pondered and said...

    I know what you're thinking, "How did you have room for everything el on your PalmPilot?" Not to worry, I had the 8 MEGABYTE expansion modu

    I dunno. I was thinking, "I wonder how good he was with Graffiti".

    that was despite my best efforts to master it .. a total pain in the rear.. sigh ;-)

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  • From gcubebuddy@21:4/129 to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Aug 27 06:53:14 2021
    I loved that book, especially because it was one of the first books
    where the author released electronic copies for free with the suggestion to buy a paper copy if you liked it. I read that book while taking the light rail system in San Francisco into work, on my PalmPilot.
    I know what you're thinking, "How did you have room for everything else
    on your PalmPilot?" Not to worry, I had the 8 MEGABYTE expansion module.

    lol thats awesome. i had a digital copy of "Hacker Crackdown" that i made my computer read to me. i had a soundblaster32 card which had voice synthisis i nwindows 98. i had it read me the audio book that was a month right before i switched to redhat 5.2 back in 1998. :-)

    Thanks
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  • From gcubebuddy@21:4/129 to Mindsurfer on Fri Aug 27 06:55:18 2021
    It gives me great pleasure to announce that the next episode of
    Back to the BBS premieres LIVE on Friday Aug 27th at 2PM PDT/5PM
    Cool! Can't wait to watch it on Friday!
    Regards,
    Mindsurfer / Stephan

    woot woot thats today :-)

    Thanks
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  • From Adept@21:2/108 to gcubebuddy on Sat Aug 28 04:17:14 2021
    made my computer read to me. i had a soundblaster32 card which had voice synthisis i nwindows 98. i had it read me the audio book that was a

    I was kind of expecting this crowd to have had more Gravis Ultrasounds, since
    I hear that was a demoscene thing for some reason.

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  • From gcubebuddy@21:4/129 to Adept on Sat Aug 28 18:39:54 2021
    I was kind of expecting this crowd to have had more Gravis Ultrasounds, since I hear that was a demoscene thing for some reason.

    lol, ya i bought a used soundblaster32 with 32 meg memory upgrade slots so could midi my Rolands Alpha Juno 2 synth to my computer. It just so happened
    to also have a vocalization plugin driver for windows 98. It was pretty cool. :-)

    i remember the days when having a sound card was a privlage for the uber rich lol. a soundblaster 16 was only dreamed about. I was lucky my Tandy HX1000
    had a builtin audio / midi card.

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Adept on Mon Aug 30 04:50:00 2021
    I was kind of expecting this crowd to have had more Gravis Ultrasounds, since I hear that was a demoscene thing for some reason.

    Here Gravis wasn't much of a thing... I think it was one of those technically better pieces of hardware that lacked specific support in a lot of things, SB was the lowest common denominator.

    Spec

    PS: Not in the circles I travelled anyways..


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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to gcubebuddy on Mon Aug 30 05:04:00 2021
    i remember the days when having a sound card was a privlage for the uber rich lol. a soundblaster 16 was only dreamed about. I was lucky my
    Tandy HX1000 had a builtin audio / midi card.

    All the bleeps, bloops and blips.. I remember that too.. given I only used the PC for a BBS I didn't go near a sounds card for a loooong time. The new G/F at the time had an ADLIB card... I think the first thing I saw use it, was Might and Magic III... after being spoiled with that for a bit, it was difficult to go back to none as the PC slowly picked up the slack from the Apple IIgs.

    I kind of miss the poking about with drivers looking for interrupts, ports and sequencing drivers to make everything run homogenously. Used to be all sorts of weird ISA cards kicking around... made extra fun by trying to run many serial ports, sound card, ethernet cards.... even the odd CD interface...

    Spec


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Adept on Fri Aug 27 07:08:00 2021
    Adept wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    I know what you're thinking, "How did you have room for everything else
    on your PalmPilot?" Not to worry, I had the 8 MEGABYTE expansion module.

    I dunno. I was thinking, "I wonder how good he was with Graffiti".

    Back then, my handwriting started looking like Graffiti.


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  • From Adept@21:2/108 to Spectre on Mon Aug 30 00:35:02 2021
    I was kind of expecting this crowd to have had more Gravis Ultrasound since I hear that was a demoscene thing for some reason.

    Here Gravis wasn't much of a thing... I think it was one of those technically better pieces of hardware that lacked specific support in a lot of things, SB was the lowest common denominator.

    Was it even common in Europe? I honestly thought it was a demoscene thing, rather than a Europe thing.

    ...I went and looked at the wikipedia article and saw, "It was very popular
    in the demo scene during the 1990s."

    Which, sadly, needs a citation, but all the same...

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Adept on Mon Aug 30 15:13:00 2021
    Was it even common in Europe? I honestly thought it was a demoscene thing,

    Shrug, no idea about Europe being in 'Straya mate... I recall a few odd people here having them, but the usual moan was nothing supported them. Everyone else was SB.

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  • From gcubebuddy@21:4/129 to Spectre on Mon Aug 30 07:49:42 2021
    All the bleeps, bloops and blips.. I remember that too.. given I only
    used the PC for a BBS I didn't go near a sounds card for a loooong time. The new G/F at
    the time had an ADLIB card... I think the first thing I saw use it, was Might and Magic III... after being spoiled with that for a bit, it was difficult to go back to none as the PC slowly picked up the slack from
    the Apple IIgs.
    I kind of miss the poking about with drivers looking for interrupts,
    ports and sequencing drivers to make everything run homogenously. Used
    to be all sorts of weird ISA cards kicking around... made extra fun by trying to run many serial ports, sound card, ethernet cards.... even the odd CD interface...

    lol i rememeber having to set the dip switches on cards for our old 486DX. I remember the dip switches could be a hair pulling situaiton if you didnt know where to start lol.

    Thanks
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  • From acn@21:3/127.1 to Adept on Mon Aug 30 15:22:00 2021
    Am 30.08.21 schrieb Adept@21:2/108 in FSX_GEN:

    Hallo Adept,

    I was kind of expecting this crowd to have had more Gravis Ultrasound Sp>> Ad> since I hear that was a demoscene thing for some reason.
    [...]
    Was it even common in Europe? I honestly thought it was a demoscene thing, rather than a Europe thing.

    I think so, yes. At least I did not know anyone who owned a GUS.
    Some dreamed of it, but no one bought or got one.

    I also "only" had SoundBlaster cards. I can't remember which ones, I guess
    a SB16 and later an AWE64.

    Regards,
    Anna

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  • From gcubebuddy@21:4/129 to acn on Mon Aug 30 10:37:30 2021
    I think so, yes. At least I did not know anyone who owned a GUS.
    Some dreamed of it, but no one bought or got one.
    I also "only" had SoundBlaster cards. I can't remember which ones, I
    guess a SB16 and later an AWE64.
    Regards,
    Anna

    I always only used soundblaster. apparently they are a local company here in Oklahoma. i cant remeber specificly where they are located. it might be in Stillwater, or eve tulsa. however i worked with people at Dell who originally worked at Creative doing soundblaster calls.

    Thanks
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  • From Adept@21:2/108 to Spectre on Tue Aug 31 03:28:24 2021
    Was it even common in Europe? I honestly thought it was a demoscene t

    Shrug, no idea about Europe being in 'Straya mate... I recall a few odd people here having them, but the usual moan was nothing supported them. Everyone else was SB.

    Oh, I figured you'd know something about technology usage elsewhere, not that you were from Europe.

    But, yeah, your experience sounds like what was pretty normal for the time.
    Not a whole lot of people built their systems based on what was available in the demoscene.

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to gcubebuddy on Tue Aug 31 14:39:00 2021
    lol i rememeber having to set the dip switches on cards for our old 486DX.

    You had dipswitches? We used to dream about dipswitches, we only had molex headers and jumpers... :P

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to acn on Tue Aug 31 14:44:00 2021
    I also "only" had SoundBlaster cards. I can't remember which ones, I guess a SB16 and later an AWE64.

    Here, at least in the circles I moved, the AWE64 also suffered from support issues and it being a superset of the AWE32. Most things only supported the 32 and the bulk of people I knew that could afford to buy such things stuck with 32s

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  • From gcubebuddy@21:4/129 to Spectre on Tue Aug 31 07:40:30 2021
    You had dipswitches? We used to dream about dipswitches, we only had
    molex headers and jumpers... :P
    Spec

    what system was that from? very interesting. ya i remember a few times in my youth of being frustrated trying to find the right dip switch setting for a modem, CDROM, or sound card lol. on our 486DX.
    that computer was pretty frustrating though as it had a memory leak in the
    ram.

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  • From gcubebuddy@21:4/129 to Spectre on Tue Aug 31 07:57:18 2021
    Here, at least in the circles I moved, the AWE64 also suffered from support issues and it being a superset of the AWE32. Most things only supported the 32
    and the bulk of people I knew that could afford to buy such things stuck with 32s
    Spec

    I had the AWE64 as well. i also had a DVD decoder card that was also hooked
    up to the AWE64. it was a pretty good setup for the time (1998). however i still have fond memories of the Soundblaster32 card with the extended ram.

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  • From acn@21:3/127.1 to Spectre on Tue Aug 31 15:35:00 2021
    Am 31.08.21 schrieb Spectre@21:3/101 in FSX_GEN:

    Hallo Spectre,

    I also "only" had SoundBlaster cards. I can't remember which ones, I
    guess a SB16 and later an AWE64.

    Here, at least in the circles I moved, the AWE64 also suffered from support issues and it being a superset of the AWE32. Most things only supported
    the 32 and the bulk of people I knew that could afford to buy such things stuck with 32s

    My problem was, that I really wanted the AWE32, but I did not find it in
    the shops as the AWE64 was already available...
    But all in all it did work quite well for me back in the days.

    Today, I have a AWE32 in my Pentium-233 retro pc :)

    Regards,
    Anna

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to gcubebuddy on Wed Sep 1 04:29:00 2021
    molex headers and jumpers... :P Spec

    what system was that from? very interesting. ya i remember a few times in

    Hmm well it would've been XT/286 era equipment.. 386's were around but still hideously expensive. Network cards were notorious for it. If you were lucky they were labeled in the silkscreen otherwise it was take a guess and try it out. A lot of them defaulted to IRQ4 at port #300 or 3f8, if I recall right, in the second serial port space.

    But a lot of early proprietary CD-ROM interfaces were along the same lines. Trying to think what else there was... even the adaptec 1512 SCSI adapter had trillions of jumpers on it.

    One of the oxymorons I loved when plug and pray first arrived, was cards arriving with a "JUMPER" for jumperless operation. :P

    Spec

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to acn on Wed Sep 1 04:41:00 2021
    My problem was, that I really wanted the AWE32, but I did not find it in

    Ja, es ist eine problem.. neues modell

    Today, I have a AWE32 in my Pentium-233 retro pc :)

    schon, Ich habe keine ausrustung von diese zeit. Nicht zu viel langer Zeit ich gefinden eine 286 und 386 auf der fussweg fur Rat hart mullabfuhr.

    Spec

    PS: excuse the missing umlauts, ich habe keine..


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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Spectre on Wed Sep 1 04:49:00 2021
    it was take a guess and try it out. A lot of them defaulted
    to IRQ4 at port #300 or 3f8, if I recall right, in the second serial
    port space.

    Mind Flash....

    Ok, a lot of network card were at IRQ 5, port 300... which was kind of a default for sound cards. Dependent on the drivers though, the 300 could also run over the top of 3f8 in the primary serial port space.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to gcubebuddy on Tue Aug 31 08:26:00 2021
    gcubebuddy wrote to Spectre <=-

    what system was that from? very interesting. ya i remember a few times
    in my youth of being frustrated trying to find the right dip switch setting for a modem, CDROM, or sound card lol. on our 486DX.
    that computer was pretty frustrating though as it had a memory leak in
    the ram.

    Trying to get the IRQs right with a modem, serial mouse and network card was fun. I spent way too much time trying to get everything to work and finally taped an index card to the inside of the case with the jumper settings, IRQs and ports I needed to use.

    Adding a serial printer (an old Apple Laserwriter that didn't have parallel ports) to the mix was more fun.



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  • From gcubebuddy@21:4/129 to acn on Wed Sep 1 10:50:22 2021
    Here, at least in the circles I moved, the AWE64 also suffered from sup issues and it being a superset of the AWE32. Most things only supporte the 32 and the bulk of people I knew that could afford to buy such thin stuck with 32s
    My problem was, that I really wanted the AWE32, but I did not find it in the shops as the AWE64 was already available...
    But all in all it did work quite well for me back in the days.
    Today, I have a AWE32 in my Pentium-233 retro pc :)
    Regards,
    Anna

    wow thats awesome. i should look into what their newist cards can do now. i
    bet its astronomical compaired to the AWE64 even, and that was an awesome
    card.

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  • From gcubebuddy@21:4/129 to Spectre on Wed Sep 1 10:55:32 2021
    Hmm well it would've been XT/286 era equipment.. 386's were around but still hideously expensive. Network cards were notorious for it. If you were lucky they were labeled in the silkscreen otherwise it was take a guess and try it out. A lot of them defaulted to IRQ4 at port #300 or 3f8, if I recall right, in the second serial port space.
    But a lot of early proprietary CD-ROM interfaces were along the same lines. Trying to think what else there was... even the adaptec 1512 SCSI adapter had trillions of jumpers on it.
    One of the oxymorons I loved when plug and pray first arrived, was cards arriving with a "JUMPER" for jumperless operation. :P

    ha ha i think i had a 586 Mobo with those kind of jumpers. man i wish i had those old systems now. i usually upgraded and gave the existing computer to a friend who was poorer than i was.
    i bet its hard to find an old 586 66 meghertz machine any more.

    i remember when 386 / 486 were like $4000. my dad bought me a tandy HX1000 (8088) from radio shack on his credit card, for me to do school work on. i
    thnk it was a sale of somekind as it was only $800 if i remember correctly. i loved that thing. although i didnt have a modem for it. i would have LOVED
    that lol

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  • From acn@21:3/127.1 to Spectre on Wed Sep 1 18:26:00 2021
    Am 01.09.21 schrieb Spectre@21:3/101 in FSX_GEN:

    Hallo Spectre,

    Today, I have a AWE32 in my Pentium-233 retro pc :)

    schon, Ich habe keine ausrustung von diese zeit. Nicht zu viel langer Zeit ich gefinden eine 286 und 386 auf der fussweg fur Rat hart mullabfuhr.

    Nice finding :)
    I've bought the P233 a while ago, I also don't have my old PCs from the
    90s, only a box full of different ISA/PCI cards and a huge collection of cables :)

    PS: excuse the missing umlauts, ich habe keine..

    No problem :)
    Just fyi: in German, you can write 'ue' for , 'ae' for „, 'oe' for ” and
    'ss' for á. These are the official alternative writings if umlauts are not available.

    Regards,
    Anna

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to gcubebuddy on Thu Sep 2 10:33:00 2021
    find an old 586 66 meghertz machine any more.

    Ponder, 486 DX2 66Mhz I recall, I don't remember a pentium slower than 75Mhz off hand.. but it was long ago now :)

    i remember when 386 / 486 were like $4000. my dad bought me a tandy HX1000 (8088) from radio shack on his credit card, for me to do school work on. i thnk it was a sale of somekind as it was only $800 if i remember

    My father was convinced it was all a flash in the pan. So no computer in my home until I started work and bought a second hander...

    Spec


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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Spectre on Thu Sep 2 14:46:02 2021
    On 02 Sep 2021 at 10:33a, Spectre pondered and said...

    My father was convinced it was all a flash in the pan. So no computer in my home until I started work and bought a second hander...

    Luckily my Dad was interested in this stuff and supported me when I saved up for a ZX81... not much later we got a BBC Micro B for the household... it was game on then :)

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  • From gcubebuddy@21:4/129 to Spectre on Thu Sep 2 07:25:26 2021
    My father was convinced it was all a flash in the pan. So no computer in my home until I started work and bought a second hander...

    wow, man that sucks. i was very fortunate with the family i grew up in. my
    dad was a crypto engineer in the pudget sound naval shipyard. back in the 80s just owning a computer put you in line for a promotion. My dad always had an electronics workbench in the house or out in the garage. I think he maxed out his radio shack credit card to buy the Tandy TX1000, and my computer the
    Tandy HX1000.

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  • From gcubebuddy@21:4/129 to Avon on Thu Sep 2 08:36:00 2021
    Luckily my Dad was interested in this stuff and supported me when I
    saved up for a ZX81... not much later we got a BBC Micro B for the household... it was game on then :)

    This is the list i had when i was growing up in the 80s

    1) speak n spell :-)
    2) Commodore VIC-20 - with tape drive and carts
    3) Atari 2600 - spaceinvaders / pac man :-)
    4) Commodore 64 - with 2 floppy drives and a monitor
    5) Tandy TX1000 - My dads computer with 286 with 20 meg HDD, cdrom drive,
    300 baud modem
    6) Nintendo NES
    7) Tandy HX1000 - My personal computer in junior high - no
    internal HDD, but had ram extention to 1 meg i think. its been a while.
    8) 486DX 33 mghertz - CDrom, win 3.1 dos 300 meg HDD, 2600 baud modem

    I showed my son some of commodores we had. he was like "Thats kind of boring..." I told him, back in the day, just owning one put you in line for a promotion at work, and it meant that you were living in the Star Trek age.
    You had a computer just like the one on Star Trek. :-) I wish that i had appreciated more, the exposure to computers i had back then. i also wish i still had them :-)

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to gcubebuddy on Thu Sep 2 06:44:00 2021
    gcubebuddy wrote to Spectre <=-

    i remember when 386 / 486 were like $4000. my dad bought me a tandy
    HX1000 (8088) from radio shack on his credit card, for me to do school work on. i thnk it was a sale of somekind as it was only $800 if i remember correctly. i loved that thing. although i didnt have a modem
    for it. i would have LOVED that lol

    When my dad retired, I put together an AMD 386/40, 3 MB RAM and a VGA card, gave him a copy of Lotus 1-2-3. He was a financial accountant and wanted to look into a consulting business.

    Turned out, he discovered video games and played a lot of Commander Keen and Castle Wolfenstein, then discovered alt.smokers.pipes on usenet and it
    became his hangout.


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  • From gcubebuddy@21:4/129 to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Sep 3 06:59:44 2021
    When my dad retired, I put together an AMD 386/40, 3 MB RAM and a VGA card, gave him a copy of Lotus 1-2-3. He was a financial accountant and wanted to look into a consulting business.
    Turned out, he discovered video games and played a lot of Commander Keen and Castle Wolfenstein, then discovered alt.smokers.pipes on usenet and
    it became his hangout.

    lol thats awesome :-)

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  • From MATT MUNSON@21:4/108 to Avon on Fri Sep 3 19:11:38 2021
    Avon wrote to Spectre <=-

    On 02 Sep 2021 at 10:33a, Spectre pondered and said...

    My father was convinced it was all a flash in the pan. So no computer in my home until I started work and bought a second hander...

    Luckily my Dad was interested in this stuff and supported me when I
    saved up for a ZX81... not much later we got a BBC Micro B for the household... it was game on then :)
    Hope Raspberry Pis can do the same for high school and jr.high school kids who want technology.

    I bet even for low income families they could even have Libre Office attached and they could type their school papers on it too.

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to MATT MUNSON on Sat Sep 4 19:38:08 2021
    On 03 Sep 2021 at 07:11p, MATT MUNSON pondered and said...

    Hope Raspberry Pis can do the same for high school and jr.high school
    kids who want technology.

    I bet even for low income families they could even have Libre Office attached and they could type their school papers on it too.

    Yep I agree the Raspberry Pis are great. They keep updating them all the time too. I have three here at home and they are all different models / years.

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to gcubebuddy on Sat Sep 4 20:42:30 2021
    On 02 Sep 2021 at 08:36a, gcubebuddy pondered and said...

    This is the list i had when i was growing up in the 80s

    1) speak n spell :-)

    I had one too, still got it but the power supply went poof :(

    2) Commodore VIC-20 - with tape drive and carts

    Never had one, but played on them at friends.

    3) Atari 2600 - spaceinvaders / pac man :-)

    Yep had one, still do. Ended up buying 1-2 more.. help I need help :)

    5) Tandy TX1000 - My dads computer with 286 with 20 meg HDD, cdrom drive,
    300 baud modem

    Didn't have that but my Dad's work (family business) bought what was called a CADO Cat and I spent hours learning to work that. I had a database program on it and word processing, it was cool.

    6) Nintendo NES
    7) Tandy HX1000 - My personal computer in junior high - no
    internal HDD, but had ram extention to 1 meg i think. its been a while. 8) 486DX 33 mghertz - CDrom, win 3.1 dos 300 meg HDD, 2600 baud modem

    I played Simon, and had a Merlin (still do) and when I was flatting on my own bout a 486-DX2-66 from memory. The modem was 14.4 then 28.8 then 33.6 then
    56k :) you know the drill! :)

    I showed my son some of commodores we had. he was like "Thats kind of boring..." I told him, back in the day, just owning one put you in line for a promotion at work, and it meant that you were living in the Star Trek age. You had a computer just like the one on Star Trek. :-) I wish that i had appreciated more, the exposure to computers i had back then.
    i also wish i still had them :-)

    I know :) It's mostly nostalgic stuff now I guess but still fun to have them
    if poss. I wonder what your son's children will make of his childhood tech?

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  • From Arelor@21:2/138 to MATT MUNSON on Sun Sep 5 08:40:16 2021
    Re: Re: Back to the BBS Ep. 5 Premieres Friday!
    By: MATT MUNSON to Avon on Fri Sep 03 2021 07:11 pm

    Hope Raspberry Pis can do the same for high school and jr.high school kids w want technology.

    I bet even for low income families they could even have Libre Office attache and they could type their school papers on it too.


    I don't know. If you need a real computer you are usually better served with a cheap 2nd hand computer. For 80 bucks you can get something powerful enough to handle a web browser and do some office work. It may also run games for the kids.

    The RPis are cheaper but I find them unbearably slow in comparison. They are intended for light programing and actig as controllers for in-house developed electronics. You can do other things with them but once you do, you start pushing them past their intended use cases, and it shows.

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  • From Oli@21:3/102 to MATT MUNSON on Mon Sep 6 08:16:34 2021
    MATT wrote (2021-09-03):

    Luckily my Dad was interested in this stuff and supported me when I
    saved up for a ZX81... not much later we got a BBC Micro B for the
    household... it was game on then :)
    Hope Raspberry Pis can do the same for high school and jr.high school
    kids who want technology.

    I have my doubts that many kids are interested in the Raspi. It would have been an amazing piece of tech in the 80s and 90s, but today it's mostly used for boring stuff by old people.

    https://magpi.raspberrypi.org/articles

    Kids live in their phones, the cloud, social networks and online games. whatsapp, mindcraft, youtube, twitch, tiktok, insta. All they need is a phone, apps and a browser. Maybe some hardware for online video stuff. microphone, gimbal, ... and if there are into contemporary video games on the bigger screen they need a descent gaming machine, not a Raspi.

    I bet even for low income families they could even have Libre Office attached and they could type their school papers on it too.

    Google Docs, Office 365?

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  • From gcubebuddy@21:4/129 to Avon on Tue Sep 7 08:58:02 2021
    I played Simon, and had a Merlin (still do) and when I was flatting on
    my own bout a 486-DX2-66 from memory. The modem was 14.4 then 28.8 then 33.6 then 56k :) you know the drill! :)
    lol yep. the 486 we had, had a memory leak in the ram. we initially has 4
    megs of ram. but then later on down the line, we upgraded to about 16 megs if
    i remember correctly... i also installed a Soundblaster after years of having the computer. I think too, we had the 2400 baud modem, but then upgraded to a 28k modem at one point. That was when AOL really first started to come out.
    :-)


    I know :) It's mostly nostalgic stuff now I guess but still fun to have them if poss. I wonder what your son's children will make of his
    childhood tech?


    lol my son use to ask me, "Daddy, when you were a kid, did phones still have cords on them?" lol
    i bet his kids will ask the same about cell phones and nintendo switches lol

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to gcubebuddy on Fri Sep 10 16:35:40 2021

    On 07 Sep 2021 at 08:58a, gcubebuddy pondered and said...

    lol yep. the 486 we had, had a memory leak in the ram. we initially has 4 megs of ram. but then later on down the line, we upgraded to about 16
    megs if i remember correctly... i also installed a Soundblaster after years of having the computer. I think too, we had the 2400 baud modem,
    but then upgraded to a 28k modem at one point. That was when AOL really first started to come out. :-)

    These are also the days of computers with buttons labeled 'turbo' ... woot :)

    lol my son use to ask me, "Daddy, when you were a kid, did phones still have cords on them?" lol
    i bet his kids will ask the same about cell phones and nintendo switches lol

    Perhaps cell phones will disappear to be replaced with a chip in our heads or something in our ear all the time?

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  • From gcubebuddy@21:4/129 to Avon on Fri Sep 10 07:10:50 2021
    These are also the days of computers with buttons labeled 'turbo' ...
    woot :)

    haha i wish that some manufacture would remake those old tower cases for
    modern computers. they always looked so cool.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Avon on Fri Sep 10 07:13:00 2021
    Avon wrote to gcubebuddy <=-

    Perhaps cell phones will disappear to be replaced with a chip in our
    heads or something in our ear all the time?

    I've thought that my grandkids will have a neural metaverse implant and look at their parents' hunched shoulders and stiff necks from a lifetime of
    looking down at their phones.




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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to gcubebuddy on Fri Sep 10 07:15:00 2021
    gcubebuddy wrote to Avon <=-

    haha i wish that some manufacture would remake those old tower cases
    for modern computers. they always looked so cool.

    Check out the retrobattlestations subreddit - people shoehorning modern powerful motherboards and power supplies into retro cases. I loved the old Dell tower cases, would love to set up a more powerful computer, Dell
    quietkey keyboard, and Microsoft intellimouse. If only someone made an LCD monitor with a beige bezel...


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  • From Adept@21:2/108 to Avon on Mon Sep 13 08:42:24 2021
    These are also the days of computers with buttons labeled 'turbo' ...
    woot :)

    I have occasionally wondered why people would ever _not_ choose turbo (it
    never seemed like a cooling issue, so what did it matter?(.

    But I did once try out a PC-based fighting game that evidently timed the
    speed of animations based off of _processor clock speed_.

    So, have a computer that was twice as fast? Then the animations were twice as fast.

    Made a game go from, "huh, this is kinda fun" to, "huh, these are basically just blurs on the screen before I lose".

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  • From Fratm@21:1/235 to Adept on Mon Sep 13 11:07:26 2021
    But I did once try out a PC-based fighting game that evidently timed the speed of animations based off of _processor clock speed_.


    This was actually a common problem back in the day, and exactly why the turbo button was made. I remember the Ultima games were based on the CPU clock speed, and were almost unplayable in turbo mode.

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Sep 15 14:32:00 2021
    On 10 Sep 2021 at 07:13a, poindexter FORTRAN pondered and said...

    I've thought that my grandkids will have a neural metaverse implant and look at their parents' hunched shoulders and stiff necks from a lifetime of looking down at their phones.

    perhaps they will need to retain their parents to remember what the real
    world looks like.... this is a tree, this is a road :)

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Adept on Wed Sep 15 14:44:50 2021
    On 13 Sep 2021 at 08:42a, Adept pondered and said...

    These are also the days of computers with buttons labeled 'turbo' ... woot :)

    I have occasionally wondered why people would ever _not_ choose turbo (it never seemed like a cooling issue, so what did it matter?(.

    I agree, I'm 99% sure no one ever turned it off, the glow of the 'turbo' led was all too important not to enjoy.

    But I did once try out a PC-based fighting game that evidently timed the speed of animations based off of _processor clock speed_.
    So, have a computer that was twice as fast? Then the animations were
    twice as fast.
    Made a game go from, "huh, this is kinda fun" to, "huh, these are basically just blurs on the screen before I lose".

    I never saw that impact when I used the software of the time on the machine
    of the same era but mileage may vary.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Avon on Wed Sep 15 07:23:00 2021
    Avon wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    perhaps they will need to retain their parents to remember what the
    real world looks like.... this is a tree, this is a road :)

    We'll be preserved on USB sticks. Plug your parents in to that jack behind your ear and they can help you figure out how to change a tire or fix a wall heater.




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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Avon on Thu Sep 16 02:44:00 2021
    I never saw that impact when I used the software of the time on the machine of the same era but mileage may vary.

    It was predominantly PC/XT class software. Back then an RTC was uncommon in these rigs. So they have more of these timing loops than anything afterwards, they're all written to run at 4 or 8Mhz... by the time you hit 286 and you've got ~8Mhz+ RTC's are on board, and the software philosophy changes.

    Given the first system I laid hand too was a 286, the legacy software kicking around that suffered from these kind of issues were obsolete and relatively simple games. You could watch them run a million mile an hour..

    The other place it showed up for a while was... games written for early 386
    one that sticks in mind is Might and Magic III. Being an adventure game it didn't affect play greatly, but advances in CPU and GPU speed showed up
    greatly in animations. The bar tender leisurely wiping the bar in the pub
    on a 386SX16 moved to warp speed on a 386DX33/40...

    Spec


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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Sep 19 19:27:46 2021
    On 15 Sep 2021 at 07:23a, poindexter FORTRAN pondered and said...

    We'll be preserved on USB sticks. Plug your parents in to that jack
    behind your ear and they can help you figure out how to change a tire or fix a wall heater.

    So long as they know what it is :) It's amazing to look at kids trying to
    suss out vinyl turntables, rotary telephones, what an overhead projector is, etc. etc... I'm getting old :)

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Avon on Mon Sep 20 08:18:00 2021
    suss out vinyl turntables, rotary telephones, what an overhead projector is, etc. etc... I'm getting old :)

    Last time I saw an overhead projector used in anger was mildly interesting.
    It was actually a signwriter, no don't see to many of them any more either. What he had was an old from someone who was going to throw it out, and he'd made a series of transparencies with various outlines, he cruise up to your sign space at dusk snarf some power, and presto instant outline on your window/wall/door. Instantly resizable through either distance or focus.

    He said it saved a motza in time, and he wasn't doing anything overly complicated with them, but it was nice to be able to work with a figure that was always scaled correctly, for the space and/or aspect ratio.

    Spec


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  • From dflorey@21:1/226 to hyjinx on Sun Sep 26 13:35:16 2021
    I've been watching this series just today, and all I can say is - ahh the memories :)

    Thanks for all the work that has gone into these episodes and looking forward to more...

    |14Dave!
    |05(|13dflorey|05)
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    |07All your base are belong to us!

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to dflorey on Sun Sep 26 16:39:08 2021
    On 26 Sep 2021 at 01:35p, dflorey pondered and said...

    Thanks for all the work that has gone into these episodes and looking forward to more...

    I agree with you, it's been a great series and has done a lot to expose the hobby / interests of folks to a wider section of society.

    ... Kids: They're not sleeping, they're recharging!

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  • From hyjinx@21:1/126 to dflorey on Thu Sep 30 18:49:08 2021
    On 26 Sep 2021, dflorey said the following...

    I've been watching this series just today, and all I can say is - ahh the memories :)

    Thanks for all the work that has gone into these episodes and looking forward to more...

    Many thanks Dave! I'm looking forward to the next episode, I reckon it's
    gonna be killer.

    I logged into tyour bbs, it's looking good. Hopefully I can get some access
    to download some of the files in there! Also I tried to reply to this message on your system but it didn't work, not sure if that's access related too.

    Cheers,
    Al


    hyjinx // Alistair Ross
    Author of 'Back to the BBS' Documentary: https://bit.ly/3tRINeL (YouTube) alsgeeklab.com

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