Arelor wrote to Utopian Galt <=-
I miss the times they were a bit more like the wild wild west. They had
a lot of crap goin on but also they were a place to which a lot of
people seeking help for really serious issues could go.
Good points. I am at a crossroads with FB. I disagree with how they use us. I was thinking about creating a groups-only FB page and unfollowing..... everyone. Some groups, however, watch for this type of thing and won't add you - guess I don't need those groups.
Thank you for the kind words, though I'm sure I'm plenty biased, even if
I try not to be. Darn human condition and all.
Xiaomi's bands are nice, inexpensive and have long battery lives;
there's a third party app called devicebridge that lets you collect log information from the tracker and download it to your PC without sending information to the cloud. I think it's Android only.
[FACEBOOK]Settings -> Delete Account -> Yes, I'm sure.
Problem solved.
+ The idea is to reduce people getting FB strikes because FB can censor with an iron fist
especially when you have been a prior offender in the past.
+ Certain words like whore or lynched would have a spell check alert to let people know to use
different word. The goal would be is to find the words that trigger strikes/suspensions.
+ eg: The problem is my examples will violate the fsx_net no politics rule if I,
go in detail
but I'll try to be neutral by stating the general context.
If a politician is subservient to another country, you don't call him or her a whore. So there
would be like a grammar check.
The goal is to help meet FB's policies and protect freedom of expression at the same time.
If you adjust your posts so you can keep saying what you want to say in a platform that does not want you to say what you want to say, they
will catch up and crush you.
If Facebook would ban you for saying that Alice is a whore and you end up saying that she is a betrayer instead (as a means to avoid account suspension), chances are you will land in trouble eventually
Utopian Galt wrote to Arelor <=-
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They have magic words that give people strikes, the goal is to
get people not to use them. I would love to curtial my FB use.
+ The idea is to reduce people getting FB strikes because FB can censor
an iron fist
especially when you have been a prior offender in the past.
The goal is to help meet FB's policies and protect freedom of expressio the same time.
You just don't operate in a social network that is hostile to you and expect to get away with it.
It is a losing proposition and the sooner we get the idea drilled in our heads, the better.
Same [roundabout] reason that I hate downvoting on forums. Always abused and allow the 'group' or majority to rule everyone. +'s are great, but no -'s.
Why I do believe Alice is a Rotary Ho... where do you think a lot of
slang comes from? An effort to circumvent the "norm". At the same
time, FB continues to win by weight of numbers I think, and until they don't they'll keep trying to write the rules.
Same [roundabout] reason that I hate downvoting on forums. Always abuse allow the 'group' or majority to rule everyone. +'s are great, but no -
I suppose it depends on the impact of the final score.
If the voting total of a given post may push it to a less readable place (ie the bottom of the page) or hide the comment, then downvoting is an actual problem. Specially since many voting systems are easy to cheat
via bots and scripts.
If the voting total is just an score that shows under the post's content
I think it is less of a problem. If you go to a horse forum and say that cats are better pets than horses the worse that will happen is your post will have a counter that reads "9873494835 people dislikes this post," which is not really that bad.
I try not to use it much, but there are some groups that I like, and I have a few relatives that only share photos there. I pretty much avoid political or controversial discussion... although sometimes it is not avoidable as you don't know what might set someone off on any given day. :O
What I've experienced on forums is that the count is on the user handle, not the post... so if a user is ganged up on by a group, or ... if they post thi that don't go with the majority - that majority can team up and give a user negative rating... on the entire forums. I like +1s because sure... this use gives good info or help or whatever. But I've seen the -1s abused or used as way to punish users who are simply different - even tho they might have been one of the most helpful posters about REAL issues.
I try not to use it much, but there are some groups that I like, and I have a few relatives that only share photos there. I pretty much avoid political or controversial discussion... although sometimes it is not avoidable as you don't know what might set someone off on any given day :O
Same. I want to drop it so bad - I KNOW that its not good, and that I don't agree with... them. Data, being the product etc...
But all my GROUPS are there. Retro computing, BBSes, Raspberry Pi, etc etc e Reddit is good - but... hmph.
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As long as i dont talk about politics or not act woke despite being a right wing lgbt person of color, reddit is pretty decent.
Arelor wrote to Utopian Galt <=-
I miss the times they were a bit more like the wild wild west. They had
a lot of crap goin on but also they were a place to which a lot of
people seeking help for really serious issues could go.
Same. I want to drop it so bad - I KNOW that its not good, and that I don't agree with... them. Data, being the product etc...
But all my GROUPS are there. Retro computing, BBSes, Raspberry Pi, etc
etc etc. Reddit is good - but... hmph.
Maybe you can try unfollowing people?
At various times, I've commented too much on Facebook political things (mostly because I can't stand reductive memes, so I'll wind up
fact-checking
things or trying to expand a discussion, and mostly that just annoys
people
and doesn't do anything good for me).
I get a lot less of those now it seems. I know it's popular to hate on facebook, but the fact
checking stuff is good I think. Like if you post
one of those ISLAMICS ARE CAUSING CHRISTMAS LIGHTS BANSS!!11 i think it should show up with a fact check that says "This is rubbish"
Though a lot of that stuff I wonder if it's concerted effort by
governments to sway public opinion. Like we're invading islamic nations
we need the populace to hate muslims, so lets make a bunch of memes that fuel peoples base emotions.
Adept wrote to paulie420 <=-
Maybe you can try unfollowing people?
At various times, I've commented too much on Facebook political things (mostly because I can't stand reductive memes, so I'll wind up fact-checking things or trying to expand a discussion, and mostly that just annoys people and doesn't do anything good for me).
But at some point I started either snoozing or unfollowing people, whenever I thought they were frequently posting political things, or
just things that were a negative for me to see, on balance.
Same. I want to drop it so bad - I KNOW that its not good, and that I don't agree with... them. Data, being the product etc...
Maybe you can try unfollowing people?
At various times, I've commented too much on Facebook political things (mostly because I can't stand reductive memes, so I'll wind up fact-checking things or trying to expand a discussion, and mostly that just annoys people and doesn't do anything good for me).
But at some point I started either snoozing or unfollowing people, whenever I thought they were frequently posting political things, or
just things that were a negative for me to see, on balance.
And doing that makes for a nicer experience (along with using fbpurity (from fbpurity.com)). Still not always great, but at least the feed is more populated with people who post less.
Good points. I am at a crossroads with FB. I disagree with how they use us. I was thinking about creating a groups-only FB page and unfollowing..... everyone. Some groups, however, watch for this type of thing and won't add you - guess I don't need those groups.
I think I once believed that interactive digital medium would increase understanding through facilitating communication. I wonder what would happen, if, hypothetically, humankind took a vow of silence for one year, in which no one argued about anything and we merely interacted with each other in practical ways to serve human needs.
more posts from others who seemed to be drowned out. I believe that FB (and YT) both put priority on political posts. I guess those kind of posts keep people upset, which makes them post more, and therefore gets their advertising seen more.
paulie420 wrote to Adept <=-
Prolly could fix some of it right up, but I think I just need to bite
the bullet and make a decision. I'm sure I'm more addicted than I
think. I know this because of the amount of time I spend reading stupid ish....
fact-checking things or trying to expand a discussion, and mostly that
just annoys people and doesn't do anything good for me).
Try stinkin to the BBS related groups. Stay away from American's that think they know something about our country. You need to know US history and the immigrants are clueless.
Try stinkin to the BBS related groups. Stay away from American's tha think they know something about our country. You need to know US hist and the immigrants are clueless.
No, Adept should post anywhere she wants. IMO her unbiased, unracist and unsexist input holds much more weight that someone without values that should be standard issue in 2o21.
Thank you for the kind words, though I'm sure I'm plenty biased, even if
I try not to be. Darn human condition and all.
ADEPT(21:2/108) wrote to paulie420 <=-Once you get FB strikes, FB has the offenders on laser sight at any slight trip up. Its not fun.
That said, I was reading the original comment as more commentary on Facebook and political discussion forums than a personal critique.
I don't _know_, but as it is I already do stick to BBS-related groups,
for the most part. :)
Turns out that "resist debating political-ish topics online" is a good guideline for personal mental health. At least for me.
[FACEBOOK]
Prolly could fix some of it right up, but I think I just need to bite
the bullet and make a decision. I'm sure I'm more addicted than I think.
I know this because of the amount of time I spend reading stupid ish....
Once you get FB strikes, FB has the offenders on laser sight at any
slight trip up. Its not fun.
[FACEBOOK]
Settings -> Delete Account -> Yes, I'm sure.
2 / 3 accounts have now been deleted. :P
Is this political yet? I'm sure arelor will appear in a magical smoke and tell me what paragraphs i got right, if any, thanks arelor.
Yeah, I'm a bit drunk, but really... it's all about whos popular and
who's not.
Sorry this whole post isn't my usual chirpy self.
What's on tap? <G>
Adept wrote to Utopian Galt <=-
This also reminds me how my Fitbit died pretty recently, and though
I've been using them from the beginning, I'm looking at non-Fitbit trackers because I want to limit the amount and extent that I use
Google products.
Xiaomi's bands are nice, inexpensive and have long battery lives;
there's a third party app called devicebridge that lets you collect log information from the tracker and download it to your PC without sending information to the cloud. I think it's Android only.
Every other company on the internet does the same thing. Track all your information, Google... Amazon.. Apple.. Microsoft.. they all do it.
Is this political yet? I'm sure arelor will appear in a magical smoke and tell me what paragraphs i got right, if any, thanks arelor.
want to do. You can fight the information trackers, and freedom of speech deniers, but you might as well turn off your computer.
2 / 3 accounts have now been deleted. :P
But really... who cares? Facebook is popular to hate on. Buck the trend and keep your account.
Every other company on the internet does the same thing. Track all your information, Google... Amazon.. Apple.. Microsoft.. they all do it.
I keep facebook to talk with my family. I use it in a container so it can't track me outside facebook... why? because firefox suggested it. THough no doubt mozilla track me too... OH BUT THEY'RE THE GOOD GUYS!
Sorry this whole post isn't my usual chirpy self.
Andrew
Lots of people were concerned about technological monopolies way before these issues came to public attention. Maybe it is a matter of trend for "some" people but I am fairly secure it is not for a lot of others. The people who cares is also concerned by Mozilla's actions, for the record.
What you got right is that if you care you should do more than blacklist Facebook. This is why I stay away from Amazon, Google and the like too.
If you must use this sort of providers there are lots of ways in which
you can informationally segment your digital life so one cannot peek at what you do with the other.
All true. :/ I hate to admit that there is NO privacy in 2o21 anymore... well, I do think BBSes STILL offer what the big guys don't - but
they're so small that... they don't even matter - or... they matter
Its funny, in a long ago, far away high school comp sci class we had subjects on data privacy, personal control of your data. It really
looks in this day and age "we" just gave up the good fight. Most
people don't seem to care that they're tracked and put all kinds of information up anywhere. I still hesitate to put any genuine data out there, and then I see things like cloud come along... relinquish
control of everything to someone elses data centre anywhere in the
world that possibly has no laws covering its governance.. it boggles my mind completely.
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