Out of curiosity, do you sell ebooks, too?
Out of curiosity, do you sell ebooks, too?
But, there is a programme in the USA that sounds really good:
https://www.indiebound.org/ebooks <=== WRONG INFO!
Hello Adept!
** On Monday 14.06.21 - 19:53, Adept wrote to Ogg:
Out of curiosity, do you sell ebooks, too?
No. I'd love to if it was affordable. Several years ago when
the ereader craze first started to rise, a couple of (Canadian)
companies tried to build a mechanism for independent bookshops
to do that. But each one had a high price to join. One of them
wanted $6000 just to register for the privilege of getting
ebook downloads, and those books were only from THEIR book
distribution catalog. Then it was a yearly fee (albiet lower).
Screw that.
I'm not aware of any independent Canadian bookseller who is
offering ebooks.
But, there is a programme in the USA that sounds really good:
https://www.indiebound.org/ebooks
I'm not aware of any independent Canadian bookseller who is
offering ebooks.
Arelor wrote to Ogg <=-
Bonus points because when I set my own store, this guy didn't as much
as purchase a piece of soap from me, despite the fact I had been purchasing at his store for more than a decade. I used to pump around
40 bucks per month in his store and now I pump 0. The ammount of money
he has lost because he didn't want to spend three bucks in soap :-)
Arelor wrote to Ogg <=-
Bonus points because when I set my own store, this guy didn't as much as purchase a piece of soap from me, despite the fact I had been purchasing at his store fo
more than a decade. I used to pump around
40 bucks per month in his store and now I pump 0. The ammount of money he has lost because he didn't want to spend three bucks in soap :-)
One thing that's come out of COVID is people realizing the power of their money. Instead of
ordering something on Amazon, we'll seek out a local store to try and help support it. We did t
before, but now we're much more conscious of shopping local when we can - and try to spread the
spend, especially with restaurants doing take-out.
... Abandon desire
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Arelor <=-
One thing that's come out of COVID is people realizing the power of
their money. Instead of ordering something on Amazon, we'll seek out a local store to try and help support it. We did that before, but now
we're much more conscious of shopping local when we can - and try to spread the spend, especially with restaurants doing take-out.
We have always tried to buy local as I've lost a business
to a chain already once. Hell really twice as the illegal
ubertaxi's took out my second business. Having said that
since no one else cares sometimes we don't either and will
just suck on bezos teet and order from amazon.
I just also learned about Wise (formerly TransferWise) for
international money transfers. Their website has a fine
explanation how SWIFT works and the fees that are involved -
that one sounds like a racket! But Wise seems very reasonable
and may be a better alterative than PayPal. Perhaps Wise is
making PayPal quake in their shoes. Er.. rather another dog-
bite at the heal of a similar competitor.
I'm not aware of any independent Canadian bookseller who is
offering ebooks.
It does sound like the system was designed to exclude independent booksellers.
PayPal is a burning mound
of infectious elephant
poo and the faster it consumes itself, the better.
[...]
PayPal is a burning mound
of infectious elephant
poo and the faster it consumes itself, the better.
LOL. I love the phrases you dream up like that.
BTW.. I just learned that there is a fine extension of bookshop.org that is represented in your country:
https://es.bookshop.org/
Tiny wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
We have always tried to buy local as I've lost a business to a
chain already once. Hell really twice as the illegal ubertaxi's
took out my second business. Having said that since no one else
cares sometimes we don't either and will just suck on bezos teet
and order from amazon.
https://es.bookshop.org/
It blocks Tor, so not very useful for me :-)
Also, I am a paper diehard. Digital has its place, but
anything I care about I must have in paper format.
Hello Arelor!
** On Wednesday 16.06.21 - 16:32, Arelor wrote to Ogg:
https://es.bookshop.org/
It blocks Tor, so not very useful for me :-)
Also, I am a paper diehard. Digital has its place, but
anything I care about I must have in paper format.
The bookshop.org brand is a "Support local bookstores"
operation: Apoya a las librerĂas de proximidad.
The represented stores are either brick'n'mortar operations or
virtual stores, but members also sell physical books.
Might be worth a look.
It works/reachable with my Tor:
https://susepaste.org/20751232
It works/reachable with my Tor:
https://susepaste.org/20751232
Thanks for the info.
I no longer purchase as many books (because I already own
most books I want), but when I do, I go to a second hand
book store near the clinic I do works for. I used to
purchase lots of books from Abebooks until Amazon ruined
it.
Before that, I used to purchase my books at the store of
the guy who lost me as a customer because he didn't buy a
single piece of soap from me. I am a very spiteful,
revengeful bastard, as you may have noticed.
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Tiny <=-
It seems like all of the small business employees displaced by business closures can find a job at a local Amazon warehouse. Self-serving, it
is.
Before that, I used to purchase my books at the store of
the guy who lost me as a customer because he didn't buy a
single piece of soap from me. I am a very spiteful,
revengeful bastard, as you may have noticed.
I don't expect my barber (when I *did* go to the barber) to
come to my shop to buy a book. Maybe he's got other interests.
(But he *did* put in a good word for my shop to his customers
when they were captive in his chair)
I don't expect my barber (when I *did* go to the barber) to
come to my shop to buy a book. Maybe he's got other interests.
(But he *did* put in a good word for my shop to his customers
when they were captive in his chair)
Dunno, it depends on the sort of investment you have been making in the other's business.
I mean, I have been purchasing stuff at worse prices and conditions than available elsewhere at this guy's shop for years because I wanted to support the corner bookstore. I think it is no secret halñf my purchases there were goodwill driven.
If goodwill is not returned then I am not giving any more.
Some merchants in the area did the token effort of
purchasing something at my store. Maybe they purchased a
shampoo upon first opening or something. Not a great effort
but they at least showed up.
Quite frankly, I am more prone to purchase flowers from the shop in the next street if I know I will see my money back when the owner comes to my store for vitamins. Which is the reason why I have switched a lot of purchasing habits - it is just so much better to be your customer's customer.
As for Amazon leveraging books in order to sell other products and services, that is not new. Books are a devaluating commodity, and when a commodity is no profitable enough to sell on its own its only outlet is to use it to sell something else that is actually profitable.
Let's face it,
from a logistical point of view, traditional books are awful propositions of value (they weight too much and offer too low margins), whereas electronic books are simply worthless (something that is unlimitedly replicable is unlimitedly worthless).
There are lots of books published,
but I have found that a whole lot of the new publications are not a product, but a tool to leverage another product. Or, very frequently, the publisher is siphoning money out of the author rather than the readers.
I mean, I read somewhere in my teen days that Spain was one of the countries in which more Fantasy books were published, and also one in
which close to nobody was reading them. It seems fishy to me.
Just wondering.. did you ever say something like.. "hey bud,
your prices are a bit higher than I've seen elsewhere.. but I
like coming here because <insert why>. BTW.. I operate my own
shop just down your the way.. and sell quality soaps and health
products."
Maybe just hoping people will notice is not good enough. We
have to do human networking.
Also I told him of my shop and website obviously.
Bonus points because he has todlers. Todlers consume things
such as infantile bathroom products. Therefore I don't buy
the idea that I don't have anything he may want to use. I
mean, book store owners have a shower from time to time, I
think.
Regarding other issues you have mentioned: I have read the
Brief History of Time. And have read it.
Expecting other people will do advertising for you is too
optimistic to be realistic at all. Mainly because they are
very bad at it when they actually go and try. I have
memories of fans of mine pursuing people and trying to
force them to buy my books at conventions XD
Out of curiosity, do you sell ebooks, too?
Out of curiosity, do you sell ebooks, too?
But, there is a programme in the USA that sounds really good:
https://www.indiebound.org/ebooks <=== WRONG INFO!
Hello Adept!
** On Monday 14.06.21 - 19:53, Adept wrote to Ogg:
Out of curiosity, do you sell ebooks, too?
No. I'd love to if it was affordable. Several years ago when
the ereader craze first started to rise, a couple of (Canadian)
companies tried to build a mechanism for independent bookshops
to do that. But each one had a high price to join. One of them
wanted $6000 just to register for the privilege of getting
ebook downloads, and those books were only from THEIR book
distribution catalog. Then it was a yearly fee (albiet lower).
Screw that.
I'm not aware of any independent Canadian bookseller who is
offering ebooks.
But, there is a programme in the USA that sounds really good:
https://www.indiebound.org/ebooks
I'm not aware of any independent Canadian bookseller who is
offering ebooks.
Arelor wrote to Ogg <=-
Bonus points because when I set my own store, this guy didn't as much
as purchase a piece of soap from me, despite the fact I had been purchasing at his store for more than a decade. I used to pump around
40 bucks per month in his store and now I pump 0. The ammount of money
he has lost because he didn't want to spend three bucks in soap :-)
Arelor wrote to Ogg <=-
Bonus points because when I set my own store, this guy didn't as much as purchase a piece of soap from me, despite the fact I had been purchasing at his store fo
more than a decade. I used to pump around
40 bucks per month in his store and now I pump 0. The ammount of money he has lost because he didn't want to spend three bucks in soap :-)
One thing that's come out of COVID is people realizing the power of their money. Instead of
ordering something on Amazon, we'll seek out a local store to try and help support it. We did t
before, but now we're much more conscious of shopping local when we can - and try to spread the
spend, especially with restaurants doing take-out.
... Abandon desire
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Arelor <=-
One thing that's come out of COVID is people realizing the power of
their money. Instead of ordering something on Amazon, we'll seek out a local store to try and help support it. We did that before, but now
we're much more conscious of shopping local when we can - and try to spread the spend, especially with restaurants doing take-out.
We have always tried to buy local as I've lost a business
to a chain already once. Hell really twice as the illegal
ubertaxi's took out my second business. Having said that
since no one else cares sometimes we don't either and will
just suck on bezos teet and order from amazon.
I just also learned about Wise (formerly TransferWise) for
international money transfers. Their website has a fine
explanation how SWIFT works and the fees that are involved -
that one sounds like a racket! But Wise seems very reasonable
and may be a better alterative than PayPal. Perhaps Wise is
making PayPal quake in their shoes. Er.. rather another dog-
bite at the heal of a similar competitor.
I'm not aware of any independent Canadian bookseller who is
offering ebooks.
It does sound like the system was designed to exclude independent booksellers.
PayPal is a burning mound
of infectious elephant
poo and the faster it consumes itself, the better.
[...]
PayPal is a burning mound
of infectious elephant
poo and the faster it consumes itself, the better.
LOL. I love the phrases you dream up like that.
BTW.. I just learned that there is a fine extension of bookshop.org that is represented in your country:
https://es.bookshop.org/
Tiny wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
We have always tried to buy local as I've lost a business to a
chain already once. Hell really twice as the illegal ubertaxi's
took out my second business. Having said that since no one else
cares sometimes we don't either and will just suck on bezos teet
and order from amazon.
https://es.bookshop.org/
It blocks Tor, so not very useful for me :-)
Also, I am a paper diehard. Digital has its place, but
anything I care about I must have in paper format.
Hello Arelor!
** On Wednesday 16.06.21 - 16:32, Arelor wrote to Ogg:
https://es.bookshop.org/
It blocks Tor, so not very useful for me :-)
Also, I am a paper diehard. Digital has its place, but
anything I care about I must have in paper format.
The bookshop.org brand is a "Support local bookstores"
operation: Apoya a las librerĂas de proximidad.
The represented stores are either brick'n'mortar operations or
virtual stores, but members also sell physical books.
Might be worth a look.
It works/reachable with my Tor:
https://susepaste.org/20751232
It works/reachable with my Tor:
https://susepaste.org/20751232
Thanks for the info.
I no longer purchase as many books (because I already own
most books I want), but when I do, I go to a second hand
book store near the clinic I do works for. I used to
purchase lots of books from Abebooks until Amazon ruined
it.
Before that, I used to purchase my books at the store of
the guy who lost me as a customer because he didn't buy a
single piece of soap from me. I am a very spiteful,
revengeful bastard, as you may have noticed.
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Tiny <=-
It seems like all of the small business employees displaced by business closures can find a job at a local Amazon warehouse. Self-serving, it
is.
Before that, I used to purchase my books at the store of
the guy who lost me as a customer because he didn't buy a
single piece of soap from me. I am a very spiteful,
revengeful bastard, as you may have noticed.
I don't expect my barber (when I *did* go to the barber) to
come to my shop to buy a book. Maybe he's got other interests.
(But he *did* put in a good word for my shop to his customers
when they were captive in his chair)
I don't expect my barber (when I *did* go to the barber) to
come to my shop to buy a book. Maybe he's got other interests.
(But he *did* put in a good word for my shop to his customers
when they were captive in his chair)
Dunno, it depends on the sort of investment you have been making in the other's business.
I mean, I have been purchasing stuff at worse prices and conditions than available elsewhere at this guy's shop for years because I wanted to support the corner bookstore. I think it is no secret halñf my purchases there were goodwill driven.
If goodwill is not returned then I am not giving any more.
Some merchants in the area did the token effort of
purchasing something at my store. Maybe they purchased a
shampoo upon first opening or something. Not a great effort
but they at least showed up.
Quite frankly, I am more prone to purchase flowers from the shop in the next street if I know I will see my money back when the owner comes to my store for vitamins. Which is the reason why I have switched a lot of purchasing habits - it is just so much better to be your customer's customer.
As for Amazon leveraging books in order to sell other products and services, that is not new. Books are a devaluating commodity, and when a commodity is no profitable enough to sell on its own its only outlet is to use it to sell something else that is actually profitable.
Let's face it,
from a logistical point of view, traditional books are awful propositions of value (they weight too much and offer too low margins), whereas electronic books are simply worthless (something that is unlimitedly replicable is unlimitedly worthless).
There are lots of books published,
but I have found that a whole lot of the new publications are not a product, but a tool to leverage another product. Or, very frequently, the publisher is siphoning money out of the author rather than the readers.
I mean, I read somewhere in my teen days that Spain was one of the countries in which more Fantasy books were published, and also one in
which close to nobody was reading them. It seems fishy to me.
Just wondering.. did you ever say something like.. "hey bud,
your prices are a bit higher than I've seen elsewhere.. but I
like coming here because <insert why>. BTW.. I operate my own
shop just down your the way.. and sell quality soaps and health
products."
Maybe just hoping people will notice is not good enough. We
have to do human networking.
Quite frankly, I am more prone to purchase flowers from the shop in the
Quite frankly, I am more prone to purchase flowers from the shop in the
You can always feed them to the fillies. You'll build your goodwill with them :P
Spec
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he didn't buy a single piece of soap from me. I am a very spiteful, revengeful bastard, as you may
have noticed.
he didn't buy a single piece of soap from me. I am a very spiteful, revengeful bastard, as
may
have noticed.
Username checks out.
(Seems obligatory)
Actually, my favorite mare's sister loved roses. She would sneak into her owner'ws rose garden and lay among the plants. And snatch a flower
every now and then. Her owner was an old dude who lacks what it
takes to deal with a naughty horse and lived perpetually stressed
I hate it when horseowners are lazy and prefer to get rid of a horse that is mostly not troublesome than educate her.
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