• Northern Realms Down

    From Warpslide@21:1/101 to All on Mon May 24 02:34:21 2021
    Hi All,

    Just a quick FYI that Northern Realms may be down for the day.

    The NUC that the BBS runs on seems to be misbehaving. Not sure where the problem is as of yet, it was working this morning and now it's showing "No operating system found". I took the SSD out and the contents are still
    there, but it just doesn't want to boot. The backup ran ok overnight, so nothing would have been lost anyway.

    Worse comes to worse I'll fire Mystic back up on the Pi while I investigate more.


    Jay

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From Warpslide@21:3/110 to paulie420 on Sun May 23 17:59:51 2021
    On 23 May 2021, paulie420 said the following...

    Just a quick FYI that Northern Realms may be down for the day.

    Ugh Warp, that stinks. If the SSD is working fine I think the /var/log directory might be helpful for review.

    Let us know what the gremlin was - I hate when a system craps out on us. Bleck!!

    So I think the NUC's motherboard may be on the fritz. The SSD seems to be
    ok, but the NUC itself refuses to boot to anything at all, no USB sticks,
    mSATA SSD or SATA SSD, not even a USB CD-ROM. It just refused to boot to anything.

    No biggie though, I just fired Mystic up on my Pi and have mail up & going, just means I'll go back to customizing this one instead of Telegard.


    Jay

    ... Now only if Mystic had built-in taglines

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Northern Realms (21:3/110)
  • From Ogg@21:4/106.21 to Warpslide on Sun May 23 20:13:00 2021
    Hello Warpslide!

    ** On Sunday 23.05.21 - 18:59, Warpslide wrote to paulie420:

    So I think the NUC's motherboard may be on the fritz. The
    SSD seems to be ok, but the NUC itself refuses to boot to
    anything at all..

    How long have you had it?


    --- OpenXP 5.0.50
    * Origin: (} Pointy McPointFace (21:4/106.21)
  • From Ogg@21:4/106.21 to Warpslide on Sun May 23 21:33:00 2021
    Hello Warpslide!

    ** On Sunday 23.05.21 - 18:59, Warpslide wrote to paulie420:

    No biggie though, I just fired Mystic up on my Pi and have mail up &
    going, just means I'll go back to customizing this one instead of
    Telegard.

    -+- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Northern Realms (21:3/110)


    That's a good recovery! But is that system configured with a
    different IP address? I can't seem to poll you for scinet.

    Probably no big deal since nuthin much seems to be happening on
    scinet anyway. :(


    --- OpenXP 5.0.50
    * Origin: (} Pointy McPointFace (21:4/106.21)
  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Warpslide on Tue May 25 07:28:00 2021
    Just a quick FYI that Northern Realms may be down for the day.

    For what its worth.... good advice costs nothing, and its worth the price.. have you checked its power supply? Might be marginal. The NUC I have only runs off a wall wart... they're pretty good at failing... marginally and catastrophicly.

    Spec


    *** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
    --- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
    * Origin: We know where you live, we're coming round to get you (21:3/101)
  • From Warpslide@21:3/110 to Spectre on Tue May 25 06:25:42 2021
    On 25 May 2021, Spectre said the following...

    For what its worth.... good advice costs nothing, and its worth the price.. have you checked its power supply? Might be marginal. The NUC I have only runs off a wall wart... they're pretty good at failing... marginally and catastrophicly.

    I hadn't though to check that. This NUC uses something that looks like a laptop power supply. I'll have to dust off my old volt meter and give it a look. The power supply says it should be providing 19V @ 3.42A.


    Jay

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Northern Realms (21:3/110)
  • From Ogg@21:4/106.21 to Warpslide on Tue May 25 07:15:00 2021
    Hello Warpslide!

    ** On Tuesday 25.05.21 - 07:25, Warpslide wrote to Spectre:

    For what its worth.... good advice costs nothing, and its
    worth the price.. have you checked its power supply? ...

    I hadn't though to check that. This NUC uses something
    that looks like a laptop power supply.

    WHAAAAAT!? You never thought that the wall-wart might be
    defective? I've encountered several over the years that
    either simply overheated (showing signs of burning, especially
    if they had white plastic) or just quit.

    I'll have to dust off my old volt meter and give it a look.
    The power supply says it should be providing 19V @ 3.42A.

    Hope it's as simple as that.
    --

    --- OpenXP 5.0.50
    * Origin: (} Pointy McPointFace (21:4/106.21)
  • From Warpslide@21:3/110 to Ogg on Tue May 25 09:22:44 2021
    On 25 May 2021, Ogg said the following...

    I hadn't though to check that.

    WHAAAAAT!? You never thought that the wall-wart might be
    defective?

    Hey, the machine is powering on and appears to be working ok except for that it's not booting. The power adapter isn't hot to the touch or anything like that. My volt meter isn't where I thought it was, so I'll need to go hunting for it.

    It may be in one of those boxes we didn't unpack from the last house. If that's the case it's probably just easier to buy another one from Amazon...


    Jay

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Northern Realms (21:3/110)
  • From Ogg@21:4/106.21 to Warpslide on Tue May 25 16:49:00 2021
    Hello Warpslide!

    ** On Tuesday 25.05.21 - 10:22, Warpslide wrote to Ogg:

    Hey, the machine is powering on and appears to be working ok except for that it's not booting. The power adapter isn't hot to the touch or..

    Hope you can sort isolate the matter.

    It may be in one of those boxes we didn't unpack from the
    last house. If that's the case it's probably just easier
    to buy another one from Amazon...

    I guess.. that's a viable plan too! :D


    --- OpenXP 5.0.50
    * Origin: (} Pointy McPointFace (21:4/106.21)
  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Warpslide on Wed May 26 09:25:00 2021
    I hadn't though to check that. This NUC uses something that looks like a laptop power supply. I'll have to dust off my old volt meter and give it

    You'd want to check it loaded and unloaded. If it sags under load she's probably no longer capable of enough Watts...


    *** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
    --- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
    * Origin: We know where you live, we're coming round to get you (21:3/101)
  • From Tiny@21:1/222 to Ogg on Wed May 26 03:03:21 2021
    Ogg wrote to Warpslide <=-

    WHAAAAAT!? You never thought that the wall-wart might be
    defective? I've encountered several over the years that
    either simply overheated (showing signs of burning, especially
    if they had white plastic) or just quit.

    I have an electric leaf blower that's useless now. The charger
    doesn't work and you (of course) can't buy a replacment. I brought
    it home and will attempt to take it apart to see if there is a fuse
    in there or something. This is why I hate anything not powered by
    gas.

    Shawn

    ... Cat Game #06: Fit into the smallest space available...

    --- Talisman v0.21-dev (Windows/x86)
    * Origin: Tiny's BBS II - tinysbbs.com:4323/ssh:4322 (21:1/222)
  • From Lightman@21:3/143 to Tiny on Wed May 26 13:42:38 2021
    I have an electric leaf blower that's useless now. The charger
    doesn't work and you (of course) can't buy a replacment. I brought
    in there or something. This is why I hate anything not powered by


    Gasoline-powered NUC! Why run your BBS with anything else?!?!

    dave

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Pedalion BBS (21:3/143)
  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Tiny on Thu May 27 06:30:00 2021
    I have an electric leaf blower that's useless now. The charger
    doesn't work and you (of course) can't buy a replacment. I brought

    Depends.... you may be able to do one of two things... so long as you can figure out the actually battery type, you can probably charge it with an appropriate charger.

    If the hot side of the charger has failed, you may be able to power the low voltage side with an alternate power sipply.

    Spec


    *** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
    --- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
    * Origin: We know where you live, we're coming round to get you (21:3/101)
  • From Tiny@21:1/222 to Spectre on Thu May 27 02:58:01 2021
    Spectre wrote to Tiny <=-

    Depends.... you may be able to do one of two things... so long as you
    can figure out the actually battery type, you can probably charge it
    with an appropriate charger.

    Soon as I have time I'm going to open it up and have a look. Failing that
    I'm hoping there is a knock off charger on amazon that will do it. Found
    a laptop battery for my wife's dell there for like $60 CAD where the dell one was double that.

    Shawn

    ... Evil is a hill. We stand on ours, speak about others.

    --- Talisman v0.21-dev (Windows/x86)
    * Origin: Tiny's BBS II - tinysbbs.com:4323/ssh:4322 (21:1/222)
  • From Tiny@21:1/222 to Lightman on Thu May 27 02:58:17 2021
    Lightman wrote to Tiny <=-

    Gasoline-powered NUC! Why run your BBS with anything else?!?!

    I run a generator on the balcony as I don't trust the hydro from
    the wall.

    Shawn

    ... No one does as much harm as one going about doing good.

    --- Talisman v0.21-dev (Windows/x86)
    * Origin: Tiny's BBS II - tinysbbs.com:4323/ssh:4322 (21:1/222)
  • From Sparky@21:1/192 to Warpslide on Tue May 25 15:03:02 2021
    Hey, the machine is powering on and appears to be working ok except for that it's not booting. The power adapter isn't hot to the touch or anything like that. My volt meter isn't where I thought it was, so I'll need to go hunting for it.

    OK here is a couple trouble shooting steps:
    Will it boot to bios?
    If it's a INTEL NUC here a trouble shooting page:
    https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/topics/wizard-nuc.html
    Other common problems is memory, try swapping memory around if your using 2 sticks or stick one at a time in and see if it boots.
    Jeff

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/02/12 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Communication Connection (21:1/192)
  • From Warpslide@21:1/101 to All on Mon May 24 03:34:20 2021
    Hi All,

    Just a quick FYI that Northern Realms may be down for the day.

    The NUC that the BBS runs on seems to be misbehaving. Not sure where the problem is as of yet, it was working this morning and now it's showing "No operating system found". I took the SSD out and the contents are still
    there, but it just doesn't want to boot. The backup ran ok overnight, so nothing would have been lost anyway.

    Worse comes to worse I'll fire Mystic back up on the Pi while I investigate more.


    Jay

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Warpslide on Sun May 23 13:09:20 2021
    Just a quick FYI that Northern Realms may be down for the day.

    The NUC that the BBS runs on seems to be misbehaving. Not sure where the problem is as of yet, it was working this morning and now it's showing
    "No operating system found". I took the SSD out and the contents are still there, but it just doesn't want to boot. The backup ran ok overnight, so nothing would have been lost anyway.

    Ugh Warp, that stinks. If the SSD is working fine I think the /var/log directory might be helpful for review.

    Let us know what the gremlin was - I hate when a system craps out on us. Bleck!!



    |07p|15AULIE|1142|07o
    |08.........

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/05/03 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbs>>>20ForBeers.com:1337 (21:2/150)
  • From Warpslide@21:3/110 to paulie420 on Sun May 23 18:59:50 2021
    On 23 May 2021, paulie420 said the following...

    Just a quick FYI that Northern Realms may be down for the day.

    Ugh Warp, that stinks. If the SSD is working fine I think the /var/log directory might be helpful for review.

    Let us know what the gremlin was - I hate when a system craps out on us. Bleck!!

    So I think the NUC's motherboard may be on the fritz. The SSD seems to be
    ok, but the NUC itself refuses to boot to anything at all, no USB sticks,
    mSATA SSD or SATA SSD, not even a USB CD-ROM. It just refused to boot to anything.

    No biggie though, I just fired Mystic up on my Pi and have mail up & going, just means I'll go back to customizing this one instead of Telegard.


    Jay

    ... Now only if Mystic had built-in taglines

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Northern Realms (21:3/110)
  • From Ogg@21:4/106.21 to Warpslide on Sun May 23 21:13:00 2021
    Hello Warpslide!

    ** On Sunday 23.05.21 - 18:59, Warpslide wrote to paulie420:

    So I think the NUC's motherboard may be on the fritz. The
    SSD seems to be ok, but the NUC itself refuses to boot to
    anything at all..

    How long have you had it?


    --- OpenXP 5.0.50
    * Origin: (} Pointy McPointFace (21:4/106.21)
  • From Ogg@21:4/106.21 to Warpslide on Sun May 23 22:33:00 2021
    Hello Warpslide!

    ** On Sunday 23.05.21 - 18:59, Warpslide wrote to paulie420:

    No biggie though, I just fired Mystic up on my Pi and have mail up &
    going, just means I'll go back to customizing this one instead of
    Telegard.

    -+- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Northern Realms (21:3/110)


    That's a good recovery! But is that system configured with a
    different IP address? I can't seem to poll you for scinet.

    Probably no big deal since nuthin much seems to be happening on
    scinet anyway. :(


    --- OpenXP 5.0.50
    * Origin: (} Pointy McPointFace (21:4/106.21)
  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Warpslide on Tue May 25 08:28:00 2021
    Just a quick FYI that Northern Realms may be down for the day.

    For what its worth.... good advice costs nothing, and its worth the price.. have you checked its power supply? Might be marginal. The NUC I have only runs off a wall wart... they're pretty good at failing... marginally and catastrophicly.

    Spec


    *** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
    --- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
    * Origin: We know where you live, we're coming round to get you (21:3/101)
  • From Warpslide@21:3/110 to Spectre on Tue May 25 07:25:42 2021
    On 25 May 2021, Spectre said the following...

    For what its worth.... good advice costs nothing, and its worth the price.. have you checked its power supply? Might be marginal. The NUC I have only runs off a wall wart... they're pretty good at failing... marginally and catastrophicly.

    I hadn't though to check that. This NUC uses something that looks like a laptop power supply. I'll have to dust off my old volt meter and give it a look. The power supply says it should be providing 19V @ 3.42A.


    Jay

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Northern Realms (21:3/110)
  • From Ogg@21:4/106.21 to Warpslide on Tue May 25 08:15:00 2021
    Hello Warpslide!

    ** On Tuesday 25.05.21 - 07:25, Warpslide wrote to Spectre:

    For what its worth.... good advice costs nothing, and its
    worth the price.. have you checked its power supply? ...

    I hadn't though to check that. This NUC uses something
    that looks like a laptop power supply.

    WHAAAAAT!? You never thought that the wall-wart might be
    defective? I've encountered several over the years that
    either simply overheated (showing signs of burning, especially
    if they had white plastic) or just quit.

    I'll have to dust off my old volt meter and give it a look.
    The power supply says it should be providing 19V @ 3.42A.

    Hope it's as simple as that.
    --

    --- OpenXP 5.0.50
    * Origin: (} Pointy McPointFace (21:4/106.21)
  • From Warpslide@21:3/110 to Ogg on Tue May 25 10:22:44 2021
    On 25 May 2021, Ogg said the following...

    I hadn't though to check that.

    WHAAAAAT!? You never thought that the wall-wart might be
    defective?

    Hey, the machine is powering on and appears to be working ok except for that it's not booting. The power adapter isn't hot to the touch or anything like that. My volt meter isn't where I thought it was, so I'll need to go hunting for it.

    It may be in one of those boxes we didn't unpack from the last house. If that's the case it's probably just easier to buy another one from Amazon...


    Jay

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Northern Realms (21:3/110)
  • From Ogg@21:4/106.21 to Warpslide on Tue May 25 17:49:00 2021
    Hello Warpslide!

    ** On Tuesday 25.05.21 - 10:22, Warpslide wrote to Ogg:

    Hey, the machine is powering on and appears to be working ok except for that it's not booting. The power adapter isn't hot to the touch or..

    Hope you can sort isolate the matter.

    It may be in one of those boxes we didn't unpack from the
    last house. If that's the case it's probably just easier
    to buy another one from Amazon...

    I guess.. that's a viable plan too! :D


    --- OpenXP 5.0.50
    * Origin: (} Pointy McPointFace (21:4/106.21)
  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Warpslide on Wed May 26 10:25:00 2021
    I hadn't though to check that. This NUC uses something that looks like a laptop power supply. I'll have to dust off my old volt meter and give it

    You'd want to check it loaded and unloaded. If it sags under load she's probably no longer capable of enough Watts...


    *** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
    --- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
    * Origin: We know where you live, we're coming round to get you (21:3/101)
  • From Tiny@21:1/222 to Ogg on Wed May 26 04:03:20 2021
    Ogg wrote to Warpslide <=-

    WHAAAAAT!? You never thought that the wall-wart might be
    defective? I've encountered several over the years that
    either simply overheated (showing signs of burning, especially
    if they had white plastic) or just quit.

    I have an electric leaf blower that's useless now. The charger
    doesn't work and you (of course) can't buy a replacment. I brought
    it home and will attempt to take it apart to see if there is a fuse
    in there or something. This is why I hate anything not powered by
    gas.

    Shawn

    ... Cat Game #06: Fit into the smallest space available...

    --- Talisman v0.21-dev (Windows/x86)
    * Origin: Tiny's BBS II - tinysbbs.com:4323/ssh:4322 (21:1/222)
  • From Lightman@21:3/143 to Tiny on Wed May 26 14:42:38 2021
    I have an electric leaf blower that's useless now. The charger
    doesn't work and you (of course) can't buy a replacment. I brought
    in there or something. This is why I hate anything not powered by


    Gasoline-powered NUC! Why run your BBS with anything else?!?!

    dave

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Pedalion BBS (21:3/143)
  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Tiny on Thu May 27 07:30:00 2021
    I have an electric leaf blower that's useless now. The charger
    doesn't work and you (of course) can't buy a replacment. I brought

    Depends.... you may be able to do one of two things... so long as you can figure out the actually battery type, you can probably charge it with an appropriate charger.

    If the hot side of the charger has failed, you may be able to power the low voltage side with an alternate power sipply.

    Spec


    *** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
    --- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
    * Origin: We know where you live, we're coming round to get you (21:3/101)
  • From Tiny@21:1/222 to Spectre on Thu May 27 03:58:00 2021
    Spectre wrote to Tiny <=-

    Depends.... you may be able to do one of two things... so long as you
    can figure out the actually battery type, you can probably charge it
    with an appropriate charger.

    Soon as I have time I'm going to open it up and have a look. Failing that
    I'm hoping there is a knock off charger on amazon that will do it. Found
    a laptop battery for my wife's dell there for like $60 CAD where the dell one was double that.

    Shawn

    ... Evil is a hill. We stand on ours, speak about others.

    --- Talisman v0.21-dev (Windows/x86)
    * Origin: Tiny's BBS II - tinysbbs.com:4323/ssh:4322 (21:1/222)
  • From Tiny@21:1/222 to Lightman on Thu May 27 03:58:16 2021
    Lightman wrote to Tiny <=-

    Gasoline-powered NUC! Why run your BBS with anything else?!?!

    I run a generator on the balcony as I don't trust the hydro from
    the wall.

    Shawn

    ... No one does as much harm as one going about doing good.

    --- Talisman v0.21-dev (Windows/x86)
    * Origin: Tiny's BBS II - tinysbbs.com:4323/ssh:4322 (21:1/222)
  • From Sparky@21:1/192 to Warpslide on Tue May 25 16:03:02 2021
    Hey, the machine is powering on and appears to be working ok except for that it's not booting. The power adapter isn't hot to the touch or anything like that. My volt meter isn't where I thought it was, so I'll need to go hunting for it.

    OK here is a couple trouble shooting steps:
    Will it boot to bios?
    If it's a INTEL NUC here a trouble shooting page:
    https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/topics/wizard-nuc.html
    Other common problems is memory, try swapping memory around if your using 2 sticks or stick one at a time in and see if it boots.
    Jeff

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/02/12 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Communication Connection (21:1/192)