Hi guys.

Whatever you're up to today, hope it's going well for you.

Spotted a few changes in HISTORY.TXT and here they are..


[snip]

2021-01-21
Updated Node 4/106 The Rusty Mailbox (CAN) Al advises his domain name has
changed. It's now trmb.synchro.net and the nodelist and
systems.txt has been updated.

Added Node 4/130 TradersBay BBS (USA) Chad Adams aka Ayex has spun up a
new system that can be found at tradersbay.fsxnet.nz
The BBS is running Synchronet BBS.

Added Node 1/139 bitHaven BBS (CAN) welcome to sysop Jean-Francois Joly who
is based in Ontario, Canada. Running a Mystic BBS he is
currently listed as a PVT node for now.

[snip]


Best, Paul

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On 21 Jan 2021, Avon said the following...

Added Node 1/139 bitHaven BBS (CAN) welcome to sysop Jean-Francois Joly who is based in Ontario, Canada. Running a Mystic BBS

Welcome to fsxNet, Jean-Francois!

Best regards
Zip

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On 21 Jan 2021, Avon said the following...

Spotted a few changes in HISTORY.TXT and here they are..

[snip]

2021-01-21
Updated Node 4/106 The Rusty Mailbox (CAN) Al advises his domain name
has changed. It's now trmb.synchro.net and the nodelist and
systems.txt has been updated.

Added Node 4/130 TradersBay BBS (USA) Chad Adams aka Ayex has spun up a
new system that can be found at tradersbay.fsxnet.nz
The BBS is running Synchronet BBS.

Added Node 1/139 bitHaven BBS (CAN) welcome to sysop Jean-Francois Joly who is based in Ontario, Canada. Running a Mystic BBS he is
currently listed as a PVT node for now.

[snip]

Welcome Chad and Jean-Francois.

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On 21 Jan 2021, Avon said the following...

Added Node 4/130 TradersBay BBS (USA) Chad Adams aka Ayex has spun up a
new system that can be found at tradersbay.fsxnet.nz
The BBS is running Synchronet BBS.

...and welcome, Chad, too, of course! =)

Best regards
Zip

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Re: Re: Housekeeping
By: Zip to All on Thu Jan 21 2021 02:58 pm

...and welcome, Chad, too, of course! =)

Thanks! Appreciate the welcome!
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Updated Node 4/106 The Rusty Mailbox (CAN) Al advises his domain name
has changed. It's now trmb.synchro.net and the nodelist and
systems.txt has been updated.

Does this mean Al has switched to Synchronet? That's terrible news! :)

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Re: Re: Housekeeping
By: Shitty to Avon on Thu Jan 21 2021 06:23 pm

Does this mean Al has switched to Synchronet? That's terrible news! :)

Synchronet is the BBS I have online for folks to connect too..

I also have a BBBS, Mystic and MBSE just to keep up with things going on.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Synchronet is the BBS I have online for folks to connect too..

What's the port # for the Synch one?

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Re: Re: Housekeeping
By: Shitty to Al on Fri Jan 22 2021 03:23 am

Synchronet is the BBS I have online for folks to connect too..

What's the port # for the Synch one?

trmb.synchro.net port 2030. My router answers on port 23 and it won't do anything for you, so use port 2030.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Synchronet is the BBS I have online for folks to connect too..
I also have a BBBS, Mystic and MBSE just to keep up with things going on.

Here's a BBS I prepared earlier... just bake for 30 mins on gas mark 7 :)

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Re: Re: Keeping up with Al :)
By: Avon to Al on Fri Jan 22 2021 07:48 pm

Here's a BBS I prepared earlier... just bake for 30 mins on gas mark 7 :)

I actually have others too that I don't know so well.. yet. :)

Ttyl :-),
Al

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On 21 Jan 2021 at 11:09p, Al pondered and said...

Here's a BBS I prepared earlier... just bake for 30 mins on gas mark

I actually have others too that I don't know so well.. yet. :)

That's the more exotic cookbook then I'd say :)

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Al wrote (2021-01-21):

Re: Re: Keeping up with Al :)
By: Avon to Al on Fri Jan 22 2021 07:48 pm

Here's a BBS I prepared earlier... just bake for 30 mins on gas
mark 7 :)

I actually have others too that I don't know so well.. yet. :)

I wish I had made a list of all BBS software that I installed and tested in the 90s.

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trmb.synchro.net port 2030. My router answers on port 23 and it won't do anything for you, so use port 2030.

Thanks. I'm gonna give it a try!

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Re: Keeping up with Al :)
By: Oli to Al on Fri Jan 22 2021 09:30 am

I wish I had made a list of all BBS software that I installed and tested in the 90s.

I think to myself sometimes that it is a pointless exercise, but I can't help myself.. :)

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Welcome to fsxNet, Jean-Francois!

Thank you! :)

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Welcome Chad and Jean-Francois.

Thank you! Glad to be onboard!

JF

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On 01-22-21 11:29, Al wrote to Oli <=-

Re: Keeping up with Al :)
By: Oli to Al on Fri Jan 22 2021 09:30 am

I wish I had made a list of all BBS software that I installed and tested in the 90s.

I think to myself sometimes that it is a pointless exercise, but I
can't help myself.. :)

It's only pointless if your software isn't 4D capable. ;)


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Re: Re: Keeping up with Al :)
By: Vk3jed to Al on Sun Jan 24 2021 08:18 am

It's only pointless if your software isn't 4D capable. ;)

I'm lost now whether I am 3D, 4D or 5D compatible. I think I have a bit of all that.

It works, so I'm happy with that. :)

Ttyl :-),
Al

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On 23 Jan 2021, Al said the following...

It's only pointless if your software isn't 4D capable. ;)

I'm lost now whether I am 3D, 4D or 5D compatible. I think I have a bit
of all that.

Ok, so does 3D = 21:1/2, 4D = 21:1/2.3 and 5D = 21:1/2.3@fsxnet?


Jay

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Re: Re: Keeping up with Al :)
By: Warpslide to All on Sat Jan 23 2021 09:40 pm

Ok, so does 3D = 21:1/2, 4D = 21:1/2.3 and 5D = 21:1/2.3@fsxnet?

Yup :)

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I'm lost now whether I am 3D, 4D or 5D compatible. I think I have
a bit of all that.

Do all these dimensions require a Tardis? Cue the signature tune..... NOW!

Spec


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On 24 Jan 2021 at 05:51p, Spectre pondered and said...

Do all these dimensions require a Tardis? Cue the signature tune.....
NOW!

weeee ooooo, wee ooohh, da da da la la, laaa laaaa....dum de dum

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Re: Keeping up with Al :)
By: Spectre to Al on Sun Jan 24 2021 05:51 pm

Do all these dimensions require a Tardis? Cue the signature tune..... NOW!

I'm saving up for one of those but I still don't have enough to make the purchase.. ;)

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Al wrote (2021-01-23):

It's only pointless if your software isn't 4D capable. ;)

I'm lost now whether I am 3D, 4D or 5D compatible. I think I have a bit
of all that.

3D-only software is really retro, I cannot remember any from the 90s. And what about 2D? There was a time before zones.

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Re: Keeping up with Al :)
By: Oli to Al on Sun Jan 24 2021 11:21 am

3D-only software is really retro, I cannot remember any from the 90s.

I think I am still 3D/4D. My outbound directories are outbound, outbound.002 and outbound.015 although there is an @fidonet or @fsxnet.

That's the case with SBBS and hpt.

And what about 2D? There was a time before zones.

Today we could use 2D but when the networks were growing the developers at the time were looking forward with the growth that was happening in those days.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Al wrote (2021-01-24):

3D-only software is really retro, I cannot remember any from the
90s.

I think I am still 3D/4D. My outbound directories are outbound, outbound.002 and outbound.015 although there is an @fidonet or @fsxnet.

That's the case with SBBS and hpt.

In 3D there was no support for points and you had to create fakenet addresses for points. For nodes (.0) 4D BSO is the same as 3D BSO, there is only a differences for outbound files for points, which are put in outbound.002/xxxxxxxx.pnt/ (old DOS/FAT 8.3 limitations).

I would call hpt a 4D tosser. I don't know any 3D-only tosser that made it into this century.

I also don't know any software that fully supports 5D (as in sent a message from 1:2/3@fidonet to 1:2/3@othernet).

And what about 2D? There was a time before zones.

Today we could use 2D but when the networks were growing the developers
at the time were looking forward with the growth that was happening in those days.

It was quite an accomplishment, but then it collapsed faster than it grew.

Funny thing is that theoretically there are as many 2D net/node combinations as IPv4 addresses.

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On 01-23-21 14:58, Al wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Re: Re: Keeping up with Al :)
By: Vk3jed to Al on Sun Jan 24 2021 08:18 am

It's only pointless if your software isn't 4D capable. ;)

I'm lost now whether I am 3D, 4D or 5D compatible. I think I have a bit
of all that.

It works, so I'm happy with that. :)

At least 4D. :) I kinda call SBBSecho's support "4.5D", because while it does recognise domains, it uses a fixed zone to domain mapping, which kinda defeats the purpose of domains (to resolve zone conflicts in different FTNs).

Of course, Rob (Digital Man) can correct me if I'm wrong. :)

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Leaving the tearline in, as it's relevant to the discussion. :)


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Re: Re: Keeping up with Al :)
By: Vk3jed to Al on Tue Jan 26 2021 08:12 pm

At least 4D. :) I kinda call SBBSecho's support "4.5D", because while it does recognise domains, it uses a fixed zone to domain mapping, which kinda defeats the purpose of domains (to resolve zone conflicts in different FTNs).

Of course, Rob (Digital Man) can correct me if I'm wrong. :)

Well, SBBSecho is very much 4D. It's BinkIt that is 5D (or 4.5D?).
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On 30 Jan 2021 at 11:02p, Digital Man pondered and said...

Well, SBBSecho is very much 4D. It's BinkIt that is 5D (or 4.5D?).

This sounds bit like Dolby 5.1 :)

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On 01-30-21 23:02, Digital Man wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Re: Re: Keeping up with Al :)
By: Vk3jed to Al on Tue Jan 26 2021 08:12 pm

At least 4D. :) I kinda call SBBSecho's support "4.5D", because while it does recognise domains, it uses a fixed zone to domain mapping, which kinda defeats the purpose of domains (to resolve zone conflicts in different FTNs).

Of course, Rob (Digital Man) can correct me if I'm wrong. :)

Well, SBBSecho is very much 4D. It's BinkIt that is 5D (or 4.5D?).

Well SBBSecho will at least scan to outbound directories for multiple domains, which is why I called it "4.5D". 4D to me means the todder will put all outbound mail under the main outbound name (with hex extensions for different zones). :)


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Avon wrote (2021-01-31):

On 30 Jan 2021 at 11:02p, Digital Man pondered and said...

Well, SBBSecho is very much 4D. It's BinkIt that is 5D (or 4.5D?).

This sounds bit like Dolby 5.1 :)

quadraphonic with 5 sub woofers? sounds fun ...

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Vk3jed wrote (2021-01-31):

Well, SBBSecho is very much 4D. It's BinkIt that is 5D (or 4.5D?).

Well SBBSecho will at least scan to outbound directories for multiple domains, which is why I called it "4.5D". 4D to me means the todder will put all outbound mail under the main outbound name (with hex extensions
for different zones). :)

binkd is 5D-ish, but only for outbound (maybe that's why it's called 5D BSO?). I also would like to have 5D inbound. Unfortunately binkd's 5D BSO is not compatible with FTS-5005 aka BinkleyTerm 5D BSO. Si we also need a name to distinguish between binkd style outbound and BinkleyTerm style outbound. Multi-4D?

The problem with 5D for mail is that FSC-0039 and FSC-0048 PKTs only support 4D and FSC-0045 (which supports 8 character long domains) is not very common. Then we also have the problem that the addresses in the messages itself are only 2D. I'm not sure if there is a de facto standard for putting the domain or full 5D address in a kludge (like INTL FMPT TOPT). Let's not talk about 5D PATH and 5D SEEN-BY ...

5D means netmails and echomails between 2:*@fidonet and 2:*@classic without side effects.

With >30000 free available zone numbers for <2000 nodes the incentive for going full 5D is pretty low.

I'm using Amiga _4D_ Outbound in binkd which looks like

fsxnet/21.3.100.0.flo
othernet/32000.23423.15894.22146.flo

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On 01-31-21 13:00, Oli wrote to Vk3jed <=-

binkd is 5D-ish, but only for outbound (maybe that's why it's called 5D BSO?). I also would like to have 5D inbound. Unfortunately binkd's 5D
BSO is not compatible with FTS-5005 aka BinkleyTerm 5D BSO. Si we also need a name to distinguish between binkd style outbound and BinkleyTerm style outbound. Multi-4D?

Hmm, I'm not up with the details, and I no longer have access to a working BinkleyTerm system (I could resurrect my old BBS as a museum piece though). :) I never used 5D in the old days, due to lack of tosser support. Everything was 4D (I did run points).

The problem with 5D for mail is that FSC-0039 and FSC-0048 PKTs only support 4D and FSC-0045 (which supports 8 character long domains) is
not very common. Then we also have the problem that the addresses in
the messages itself are only 2D. I'm not sure if there is a de facto standard for putting the domain or full 5D address in a kludge (like
INTL FMPT TOPT). Let's not talk about 5D PATH and 5D SEEN-BY ...

Yeah, that sode of things is a mess.

5D means netmails and echomails between 2:*@fidonet and 2:*@classic without side effects.

Yes, and that would have been nice back in the day.

With >30000 free available zone numbers for <2000 nodes the incentive
for going full 5D is pretty low.

In practice, 4000, due to the limitations of BSO on some systems.

I'm using Amiga _4D_ Outbound in binkd which looks like

fsxnet/21.3.100.0.flo
othernet/32000.23423.15894.22146.flo

ASO, actually looks like a nice setup.


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Vk3jed wrote (2021-02-01):

On 01-31-21 13:00, Oli wrote to Vk3jed <=-

binkd is 5D-ish, but only for outbound (maybe that's why it's
called 5D BSO?). I also would like to have 5D inbound.
Unfortunately binkd's 5D BSO is not compatible with FTS-5005 aka
BinkleyTerm 5D BSO. Si we also need a name to distinguish between
binkd style outbound and BinkleyTerm style outbound. Multi-4D?

Hmm, I'm not up with the details, and I no longer have access to a working BinkleyTerm system (I could resurrect my old BBS as a museum piece
though). :)

:) Only difference is that binkd doesn't put hex extension on the default zone of the othernet. Like

outbound/
outbound.002/
fsxnet/

instead of

outbound/
outbound.002/
fsxnet.016/

So binkd it's incompatible with many tossers in 5D mode. Which is weird as binkd only supports 4D with a workaround (never worked out for me).

I never used 5D in the old days, due to lack of tosser
support. Everything was 4D (I did run points).

I started with Squish and BinkleyTerm, which both supported 5D. I wasn't aware that most other software never did (or I was and doesn't remember it anymore).

With >30000 free available zone numbers for <2000 nodes the
incentive for going full 5D is pretty low.

In practice, 4000, due to the limitations of BSO on some systems.

I wonder why. It's not that the inventor of 4D BSO was forced to make it work with hex numbers and the 3 character extension. It's perfectly possible to use base32 (e.g. 0-1 A-V) and get 15-bits (0-32767) out of 3 characters. Or use sub directories.

I'm using Amiga _4D_ Outbound in binkd which looks like

fsxnet/21.3.100.0.flo
othernet/32000.23423.15894.22146.flo

ASO, actually looks like a nice setup.

I started using this out of frustration with binkd's non-standard 5D BSO implementation. And it was easy to hack it into Squish and Crashmail, only a few lines of code to change ...

[2 minutes later]

.... actually in Crashmail it is just one line to edit

- sprintf(buf,"%04x%04x",n4d->Net,n4d->Node);
+ sprintf(buf,"%u.%u.%u.%u",n4d->Zone,n4d->Net,n4d->Node,n4d->Point);

and then deleting the if blocks for non-default zones and points.

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Re: Keeping up with Al :)
By: Oli to Vk3jed on Mon Feb 01 2021 12:58 pm

fsxnet/21.3.100.0.flo
othernet/32000.23423.15894.22146.flo

ASO, actually looks like a nice setup.

I saw something like this in the hpt docs although I have never tried it, it looks like hpt does support ASO.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Al wrote (2021-02-01):

fsxnet/21.3.100.0.flo
othernet/32000.23423.15894.22146.flo

ASO, actually looks like a nice setup.

I saw something like this in the hpt docs although I have never tried it, it looks like hpt does support ASO.

Yes, I just tried it with my old husky config (because I couldn't remember if it worked or not). Of course it's only 4D ASO (outbound/1.2.3.4) and not 5D ASO (domain/1.2.3.4).

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Re: Keeping up with Al :)
By: Oli to Al on Mon Feb 01 2021 06:51 pm

Yes, I just tried it with my old husky config (because I couldn't remember if it worked or not). Of course it's only 4D ASO (outbound/1.2.3.4) and not 5D ASO (domain/1.2.3.4).

Ah, still a road to travel there.. :)

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Re: Re: Keeping up with Al :)
By: Vk3jed to Digital Man on Sun Jan 31 2021 06:33 pm

On 01-30-21 23:02, Digital Man wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Re: Re: Keeping up with Al :)
By: Vk3jed to Al on Tue Jan 26 2021 08:12 pm

At least 4D. :) I kinda call SBBSecho's support "4.5D", because while it does recognise domains, it uses a fixed zone to domain mapping, which kinda defeats the purpose of domains (to resolve zone conflicts in different FTNs).

Of course, Rob (Digital Man) can correct me if I'm wrong. :)

Well, SBBSecho is very much 4D. It's BinkIt that is 5D (or 4.5D?).

Well SBBSecho will at least scan to outbound directories for multiple domains, which is why I called it "4.5D". 4D to me means the todder will put all outbound mail under the main outbound name (with hex extensions for different zones). :)

Right, I forgot about that feature. So yeah, sure, 4.5D. :-)
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On 02-01-21 12:58, Oli wrote to Vk3jed <=-

:) Only difference is that binkd doesn't put hex extension on the
default zone of the othernet. Like

Yeah, I have noticed that.

So binkd it's incompatible with many tossers in 5D mode. Which is weird
as binkd only supports 4D with a workaround (never worked out for me).

My binkd seems to be working in %D(ish) mode. :)

I started with Squish and BinkleyTerm, which both supported 5D. I
wasn't aware that most other software never did (or I was and doesn't remember it anymore).

I used either Fastecho or Fmail, and I don't think either supported 5D back then. Bink certainly did. I also use Binkleyterm as my mailer.

With >30000 free available zone numbers for <2000 nodes the
incentive for going full 5D is pretty low.

In practice, 4000, due to the limitations of BSO on some systems.

I wonder why. It's not that the inventor of 4D BSO was forced to make
it work with hex numbers and the 3 character extension. It's perfectly possible to use base32 (e.g. 0-1 A-V) and get 15-bits (0-32767) out of
3 characters. Or use sub directories.

Yes, there were ways, but they deciced to stick with hex instead of being more imaginitive.

ASO, actually looks like a nice setup.

I started using this out of frustration with binkd's non-standard 5D
BSO implementation. And it was easy to hack it into Squish and
Crashmail, only a few lines of code to change ...

Ahh OK. Only possible on modern OSs. Don't try this on DOS! :D

[2 minutes later]

.... actually in Crashmail it is just one line to edit

- sprintf(buf,"%04x%04x",n4d->Net,n4d->Node);
+ sprintf(buf,"%u.%u.%u.%u",n4d->Zone,n4d->Net,n4d->Node,n4d->Point);

and then deleting the if blocks for non-default zones and points.

Cool. :)


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On 02-01-21 22:45, Digital Man wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Well SBBSecho will at least scan to outbound directories for multiple domains, which is why I called it "4.5D". 4D to me means the todder will put all outbound mail under the main outbound name (with hex extensions for different zones). :)

Right, I forgot about that feature. So yeah, sure, 4.5D. :-)

Haha you wrote it. ;) Would be nice to have full 5D support all the way up the chain. :)


... Discoveries are often made by not following instructions.
=== MultiMail/Win v0.52
--- SBBSecho 3.10-Linux
* Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (21:1/109)

Vk3jed wrote (2021-02-03):

My binkd seems to be working in %D(ish) mode. :)

What is Dish mode? ;-P

ASO, actually looks like a nice setup.

I started using this out of frustration with binkd's non-standard 5D
BSO implementation. And it was easy to hack it into Squish and
Crashmail, only a few lines of code to change ...

Ahh OK. Only possible on modern OSs. Don't try this on DOS! :D

You mean non-obsolete OSs? Even MS-DOS 7.1 and FreeDOS support long file names [1] ...

.... but okay, Fidonet is stuck in the early 1990s ;)


[1] http://www.cn-dos.net/msdos71/doslfns.htm
("Long File Name (LFN) compatible programs for DOS")

---
* Origin: . (21:3/102)

On 02-03-21 10:26, Oli wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Ahh OK. Only possible on modern OSs. Don't try this on DOS! :D

You mean non-obsolete OSs? Even MS-DOS 7.1 and FreeDOS support long
file names [1] ...

MS-DOS 7.1 (i.e. without the GUI)?

.... but okay, Fidonet is stuck in the early 1990s ;)

yep.

[1] http://www.cn-dos.net/msdos71/doslfns.htm
("Long File Name (LFN) compatible programs for DOS")

Interesting.


... If the British can survive their meals, they can survive anything.
=== MultiMail/Win v0.52
--- SBBSecho 3.10-Linux
* Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (21:1/109)

Hey there.

Saw a red flashing light on the bridge console panel... it said

'HISTORY.TXT has been updated'

I quickly raised the shields :)

[snip]

2021-02-20
We've made a change to the name of the file being hatched out each week that contains the infopack. Previously it was called fsxinfo.zip and was hatched
out to the file area FSX_INFO with a command to 'replace' the old file with
the new one of the same name.

The file name has changed to fsxnet.zip .. all other behaviours remain the same with it too being sent to the FSX_INFO file base, and the same weekly 'replace' command being used to swap out old version with new.

** Please manually delete your old fsxinfo.zip from your FSX_INFO file base
as it will not be updated anymore **

Added Node 4/142 Off the Wall BBS (USA) Hello to sysop Robert Stinnett aka
dmxrob, based in St. Peters, Missouri he has set up a WWIV
BBS under CentOS. You can reach the system at
offthewall.dmxrob.net - welcome :)

[snip]

update nodelist etc. will be hatched soon.

Best, Paul

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

On 20 Feb 2021, Avon said the following...

Added Node 4/142 Off the Wall BBS (USA) Hello to sysop Robert Stinnett
aka dmxrob, based in St. Peters, Missouri he has set up
a WWIV BBS under CentOS. You can reach the system at
offthewall.dmxrob.net - welcome :)

Welcome to fsxNet, Robert!

Nice to have you here!

Best regards
Zip

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/02/12 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (21:1/202)

Hi All,

From HISTORY.TXT

[snip]

2021-05-01
Added Node 1/223 OldComp.EU BBS (CZE) based in the Czech Republic please
welcome sysop Cerny Eduard aka MaDCz who is running a Mystic
BBS using Centos. You will find the BBS at
bbs1.oldcomp.eu:2323 Welcome to fsxNet MaDCz :)

Added Node 1/224 Spot BBS (USA) also please welcome sysop Steve Weinert who
is based in Whitelaw, Wisconsin. Steve is an active HAM
radio operator callsign K9Zw and you can find his BBS at
spotbbs.k9zw.com he also runs at blog at k9zw.wordpress.com

Removed Node 2/106 NeoCincinnati BBS has closed and has been delisted.

[snip]

Best, Paul.

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: Agency + Risa HUB - Dunedin, New Zealand (21:1/100)

On 01 May 2021, Avon said the following...

Added Node 1/223 OldComp.EU BBS (CZE) based in the Czech Republic please
welcome sysop Cerny Eduard aka MaDCz who is running a

Added Node 1/224 Spot BBS (USA) also please welcome sysop Steve Weinert who is based in Whitelaw, Wisconsin. Steve is an active

Welcome, Cerny & Steve!

Nice to have you on board!

Best regards
Zip

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/04/08 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (21:1/202)

Hi All,

From history.txt

[snip]

2021-05-14
Removed Node 1/136 force9 BBS (GBR) has not polled for packets in 80+ days
the system has been delisted.
[snip]

Hopefully Dave may be back but my attempts to contact him have gone unanswered.

Best, Paul.

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: Agency + Risa HUB - Dunedin, New Zealand (21:1/100)

Hi All,

From history.txt

[snip]

2021-05-16
Added Node 1/225 Free Speech You Smeghead BBS (CAN) welcome to sysop Doug
McComber who is based in Kingston, Nova Scotia and is
running a Mystic BBS. The BBS can be reached at
freespeech.smeghead.club:6623 or port 6622 for SSH.

[snip]

An updated nodelist and infopack will be hatched shortly.

Best, Paul.

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: Agency + Risa HUB - Dunedin, New Zealand (21:1/100)

Avon wrote to All <=-

[snip]

2021-05-16
Added Node 1/225 Free Speech You Smeghead BBS (CAN) welcome to sysop
Doug
McComber who is based in Kingston, Nova Scotia and is
running a Mystic BBS. The BBS can be reached at
freespeech.smeghead.club:6623 or port 6622 for SSH.

Nice!
Welcome Doug!

... Never judge a fruit by its skin. Neelix
--- MultiMail/Linux v0.52
* Origin: Carnage - risen from the dead now on SBBS (21:4/107)

Added Node 1/225 Free Speech You Smeghead BBS (CAN) welcome to sysop Doug
McComber who is based in Kingston, Nova Scotia and is
running a Mystic BBS. The BBS can be reached at
freespeech.smeghead.club:6623 or port 6622 for SSH.

Glad to be here! As I am still configuing and customizing, the BBS is closed to new members at the moment. Once ready and open to the public I will post
an announcement.

Cheers,
Doug

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Free Speech You Smeg Head (21:1/225)

Nice!
Welcome Doug!

Thanks!

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Free Speech You Smeg Head (21:1/225)

On 16 May 2021, Avon said the following...

2021-05-16
Added Node 1/225 Free Speech You Smeghead BBS (CAN) welcome to sysop Doug
McComber who is based in Kingston, Nova Scotia and is

Welcome to fsxNet, Doug!

Best regards
Zip

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/04/08 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (21:1/202)

On 04 Oct 2021, Avon said the following...

2021-10-04
Added QWK Node KN6Q / KN6Q BBS (USA) welcome to Tom Kisner who is
based in Azle, Texas. Tom is running a Synchronet BBS. You can reach it at bbs.kn6q.org

Welcome to fsxNet, Tom!
Nice to have you here!

Best regards
Zip

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/09/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (21:1/202)

Hi guys

From HISTORY.TXT

[snip]

2022-04-25
Removed Node 1/104 Shenk's Express BBS has been delisted at sysop request.

Added Node 1/167 CyberBBS WHQ BBS (USA) sysop Chad Adams aka Nugax has been
keeping busy crafting his own BBS software - CyberBBS, a
Linux BBS that is just starting out. You can reach his BBS
by visiting whq.cyberbbs.com:6023 via Telnet or check the
website cyberbbs.com for more info. Look for a new fsxNet
support echomail are in the coming days.

[snip]

Best, Paul

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

On 25 Apr 2022, Avon said the following...

Added Node 1/167 CyberBBS WHQ BBS (USA) sysop Chad Adams aka Nugax has been keeping busy crafting his own BBS software - CyberBBS, a Linux BBS that is just starting out. You

That's cool!

Welcome to fsxNet, Chad! Nice to have you aboard!

Best regards
Zip

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/04/03 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (21:1/202)

It's the mid-May 2022 edition.

Here's what we're dusted off in history.txt

[snip]

2022-05-15
Added Node 2/147 Altair IV BBS (USA) welcome to sysop Scott Daniels aka Ogg
who hails from Lufkin TX. Ogg is running a Mystic BBS on a
Raspberry Pi. You can reach his system at altairiv.ddns.net
Welcome Ogg, nice to have you as a member of the fsxNet
community.

Added Node 2/146 Hold Fast! BBS (CAN) please say hi and welcome to sysop
Paul Lopez aka Nitron who is based in Ottawa. Paul is running
his Mystic BBS under Linux and you can find it at
telnet.holdfastbbs.ca:2323
Thanks for taking the time to join fsxNet Nitron it's great
to have you as a member.

Removed Node 1/151 The Grinning Cat BBS (AUS) node has been delisted.

Removed Node 1/182 Happyland 2.20 BBS (AUS) node has been delisted.

Added Node 4/181 PlaneT Afr0 BBS (USA) welcome to sysop Jason Reznor aka fC
who hails from Virginia. fC is running an Enigma 1/2 BBS
and you can reach it at planetafr0.org:8888 telnet or use
port 8889 for SSH. Welcome aboard fC and thanks for joining
fsxNet it's nice to have you active in the network :)

Moved Node 1/125 CrNet BBS (USA) to NET 5. The BBS is now 21:5/108 and the
nodelist and systems.txt has been updated accordingly.

Added Node 3/167 VETBBS (USA) welcome also to sysop Mike Welborn who is
based in Verbena, AL. Mike's running a SBSS system and
can be reached at bbs.thewelborns.net
Great to have you as a member of fsxNet Mike, welcome!

[snip]

An updated nodelist will be hatched out next Friday, NZ local time.

Best, Paul.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

On 15 May 2022, Avon said the following...

2022-05-15
Added Node 2/147 Altair IV BBS (USA) welcome to sysop Scott Daniels aka Ogg who hails from Lufkin TX. Ogg is running a Mystic

Added Node 2/146 Hold Fast! BBS (CAN) please say hi and welcome to sysop
Paul Lopez aka Nitron who is based in Ottawa. Paul is

Added Node 4/181 PlaneT Afr0 BBS (USA) welcome to sysop Jason Reznor aka fC who hails from Virginia. fC is running an Enigma 1/2

Added Node 3/167 VETBBS (USA) welcome also to sysop Mike Welborn who is
based in Verbena, AL. Mike's running a SBSS system and

Welcome, Scott, Paul, Jason & Mike!
Nice to have you here!

Best regards
Zip

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/04/26 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (21:1/202)

Re: Housekeeping
By: Avon to All on Sun May 15 2022 16:14:04

Added Node 2/147 Altair IV BBS (USA) welcome to sysop Scott Daniels aka Ogg
who hails from Lufkin TX. Ogg is running a Mystic BBS on a

They finally got internet out there? :)

Thought the only thing out that way was swamp and alligators lol
--- SBBSecho 3.15-Linux
* Origin: End Of The Line BBS - endofthelinebbs.com (21:2/101)

On 15 May 2022 at 08:50a, Nigel Reed pondered and said...

They finally got internet out there? :)

I'm guessing yes :)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

When we moved here about 18 months ago, I first found that my only option was a local 20 Mb ISP. Then a new ISP showed up with up to 1 Gig speeds! Now the 20 Mb guy has been running underground fiber in my neighborhood and advertising 1 Gig speeds! We're moving up!

BTW, haven't seen any gators yet! :)

... When all else fails, read the instructions

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/04/26 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: Altair IV BBS (21:2/147)

ogg wrote to Nigel Reed <=-

When we moved here about 18 months ago, I first found that my only
option was a local 20 Mb ISP. Then a new ISP showed up with up to 1
Gig speeds! Now the 20 Mb guy has been running underground fiber in my neighborhood and advertising 1 Gig speeds! We're moving up!

With formerly using 3 MB download speed with CenturyLink DSL...dropped it for this TMobile with 70-80 MB according to the time of day...thought CenturyLink would upgrade their DSL service to at least 20 MB...but no. They are still at 3 MB and will continue staying that way because of this being a "rural" area.

BTW, haven't seen any gators yet! :)

Just remember...as was said in "Live and Let Die"...you can take care of the gators by either pulling their teeth out with your bare hands or poke a pencil/pen in the back of the head. ;)
... Yield to temptation, it may not pass your way again.
--- MultiMail/Win v0.52
* Origin: fsxNet FTN<>QWK Gateway (21:4/10)

On Thu, 19 May 2022 23:23:51 -0500
"ogg" <ogg@21:2/147> wrote:

When we moved here about 18 months ago, I first found that my only
option was a local 20 Mb ISP. Then a new ISP showed up with up to 1
Gig speeds! Now the 20 Mb guy has been running underground fiber in
my neighborhood and advertising 1 Gig speeds! We're moving up!

Fancy that. Competition advancing technology. Who'd have thought it?
--
End Of The Line BBS - Plano, TX
telnet endofthelinebbs.com 23
--- SBBSecho 3.15-Linux
* Origin: End Of The Line BBS - endofthelinebbs.com (21:2/101)

Re: Re: Housekeeping
By: ogg to Nigel Reed on Thu May 19 2022 11:23 pm

When we moved here about 18 months ago, I first found that my only option was a local 20 Mb ISP. Then a new ISP showed up with up to 1 Gig speeds! Now the 20 Mb guy has been running underground fiber in my neighborhood and advertising 1 Gig speeds! We're moving up!

Competition is good. :)

Nightfox
--- SBBSecho 3.15-Win32
* Origin: Digital Distortion: digdist.synchro.net (21:1/137)

On 20 May 2022, Nightfox said the following...

and advertising 1 Gig speeds! We're moving up!

Competition is good. :)

It's supposed to be! We'll see what reality is in the next few months.

... A house is a place to keep your stuff while you go out and get more stuff

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/04/26 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: Altair IV BBS (21:2/147)

From history.txt

[snip]

2022-05-22
Removed Node 1/139 bitHaven BBS (CAN) sysop advises his system has closed.
The node has been delisted.

Updated Node 3/163 Caught in a Dream BBS (USA) is now called 42bytes and the
domain name has changed to 42bytes.net

2022-05-21
Removed Node 1/233 The Swamp BBS (NLD) has been delisted due to inactivity
spanning several months and no contact from sysop.

[snip]

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

here's an update from history.txt that catches a few changes and bring things up to date

[snip]

2022-06-06
Removed Node 1/130 Tinys BBS (CAN) Shawn advises this system has closed and
can be delisted. He's still running 1/222

Added Node 4/182 RedFrog BBS (EST) welcome to Ergo Paalman aka Eku from
Tallinn in Estonia. Running a Mystic BBS on a Raspeberry Pi
you can reach the BBS at redfrog.duckdns.org:667 or via
redfrog.fsxnet.nz:667 too :) Welcome Eku :)

Removed Node 1/133 The Parity Error (CAN) node delisted due to inactivty.

Removed Node 1/212 SugarRush BBS (USA) node delisted due to inactivity.


2022-05-26
Updated Node 4/135 PiBBS (CAN) has been marked PVT in the nodelist by sysop
request.

Updated Node 1/187 Cosmik Debris BBS (USA) has been marked as Down.

Updated Node 1/177 Nephilim BBS (ISR) has been marked as Down.

2022-05-26
Housekeeping for NET 2 and more to come in other NETs as we keep on top of
who is coming and going.

Removed Node 3/162 Drakefire BBS (USA) node is inactive and has been delisted

Added Node 3/168 ReTR0aKTiV BBS (USA) welcome aboard to sysop Rob Koliha aka
Galahad who is running a Mystic BBS and can be reached at
retr0aktiv.com - welcome :)

Removed Node 2/107 The Creeping Crud BBS (USA) is inactive and is delisted.

Removed Node 2/109 Nexus Computers BBS (AUS) is inactive and is delisted.

Removed Node 2/119 Anderson's Toolshed BBS (USA) is inactive and is
delisted.

Removed Node 2/134 Troy's Den BBS (USA) is inactive and is delisted.

Removed Node 2/145 Mike's Mansion BBS (USA) is inactive and is delisted.

Removed Node 2/155 The Amiga Frontier BBS (USA) is inactive and is delisted.

Removed Node 2/164 Dragonstalon BBS (USA) is inactive and is delisted.

[snip]

More to follow in the week or two ahead.

Best, Paul

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

On 06 Jun 2022, Avon said the following...

Added Node 4/182 RedFrog BBS (EST) welcome to Ergo Paalman aka Eku from
Tallinn in Estonia. Running a Mystic BBS on a

Added Node 3/168 ReTR0aKTiV BBS (USA) welcome aboard to sysop Rob Koliha aka Galahad who is running a Mystic BBS and can be

Welcome to fsxNet, Ergo & Rob! Nice to have you here!

Best regards
Zip

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/04/26 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (21:1/202)

Nice to be here :)



Eku
Tallinn/EST

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: RedFrog BBS (21:4/182)

Hi all

From history.txt

[snip]

2022-07-03
Removed Node 3/161 Itchy Butt BBS (USA) Michael advises he has shutdown his
BBS so the node has been delisted.

Removed Node 1/153 Infoline BBS (CZE) has been delisted at sysop request. The
BBS has been shutdown for now. Hope to see you again sometime
Mikolas :)

Added Node 1/182 Positronic Brain (AUS) welcome back to Apam and his new BBS
You can reach the system at positronicbrain.net use port
11892 for Telnet and port 11893 for SSH.

Added Node 2/107 Ed's Place BBS (USA) welcome to sysop Edwin Wentworth aka
ewent who is running his Synchronet BBS from Dunedin, Florida
(not Dunedin, New Zealand :)) The BBS is nearly up and
running and will be available soon at bbs.ew3host.com but
for now keep an eye on https://www.ew3host.com

2022-06-21
Added Node 3/171 STar Fleet HQ BBS (USA) hailing from Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio
please welcome sysop Drew (Andrew) Klenotic who is running
a Atari ST and using RatSoft ST v2.1c under TOS 1.4
You can reach the BBS at bbs.sfhqbbs.org:5983 or find
out more via the website http://www.sfhqbbs.org welcome
Drew :)

Added Node 3/170 RVs and RPGs BBS (USA) based in Phoenix it's a warm welcome
to sysop Jeff Brissette aka nblade who is running his
Mystic BBS under Linux you can reach his system via
bbs.rvsandrpgs.com:2323 or use port 2222 for SSH.

2022-06-20
Added Node 3/169 TassieBob BBS (AUS) welcome to sysop Bob Purdon aka TassieBob
who is based in Hobart and running a Mystic BBS. You can
say gidday to TassieBob and check out his system at
bbs.tassiebob.com:2323 he also runs a website at
https://www.tassiebob.com - welcome to fsxNet Bob :)

[snip]

so a mix of hello's and goodbyes :)

These changes will be reflected in the nodelist to be hatched out in around 5 days time, Friday morning, local NZ time.

Best, Paul

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

On 03 Jul 2022, Avon said the following...

Added Node 1/182 Positronic Brain (AUS) welcome back to Apam and his new BBS You can reach the system at positronicbrain.net use

Added Node 2/107 Ed's Place BBS (USA) welcome to sysop Edwin Wentworth
aka ewent who is running his Synchronet BBS from
Dunedin, Florida (not Dunedin, New Zealand :)) The BBS

Added Node 3/171 STar Fleet HQ BBS (USA) hailing from Cuyahoga Falls,
Ohio please welcome sysop Drew (Andrew) Klenotic who is running a Atari ST and using RatSoft ST v2.1c under TOS

Added Node 3/170 RVs and RPGs BBS (USA) based in Phoenix it's a warm welcome to sysop Jeff Brissette aka nblade who is
running his Mystic BBS under Linux you can reach his

Added Node 3/169 TassieBob BBS (AUS) welcome to sysop Bob Purdon aka TassieBob who is based in Hobart and running a Mystic BBS. You can say gidday to TassieBob and check out his

Wow, so many new -- welcome to all of you!
I'm sure you'll enjoy your stay here!

Best regards
Zip

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/04/26 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (21:1/202)

2022-06-20
Added Node 3/169 TassieBob BBS (AUS) welcome to sysop Bob Purdon aka TassieBob who is based in Hobart and running a Mystic BBS. You can say gidday to TassieBob and check out his system at bbs.tassiebob.com:2323 he also runs a website at https://www.tassiebob.com - welcome to fsxNet Bob :)

Thanks! I must say the turnaround from application to up and working was very quick, especially given you had other significant things happening in your life at the same time! Between yourself and deon, it was very quick and painless.

Radio silence from the other two nets I sent applications for...

Long live fsxNet :-)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: TassieBob BBS, Hobart, Tasmania (21:3/169)

*** Quoting tassiebob from a message to Avon ***

Radio silence from the other two nets I sent applications for...

If you haven't checked out Micronet:

https://www.minftn.net/

-!- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)

And since you're running Mystic, you can also also join up to DOVE-Net which is a QWK network, so the setup is a little different. No application necessary, just connect yourself up at Vertrauen and follow these
instructions:

https://web.synchro.net/?page=001-forum.ssjs&sub=fsx_mys&thread=8277

* Origin: TassieBob BBS, Hobart, Tasmania (21:3/169)

For Fidonet you're in Region 54, contact Terry Roati to get conneced up
there: www.tfb-bbs.org or sysop@tfb-bbs.org


Jay

... Where there's a will, there's a lawsuit

--- Telegard v3.09.g2-sp4/mL
* Origin: Northern Realms/TG ì tg.nrbbs.net ì Binbrook, ON (21:3/110.2)

Tasmania is part of Net 633 for Fidonet, Stephen Walsh is the NC and he may be contacted on email vk3heg @ vk3heg.net to arrange a node number. If you can't get hold of Stephen then get back to me.

Thanks.

Terry


On Jul 03, 2022 08:42pm, tassiebob wrote to Avon:

2022-06-20
Added Node 3/169 TassieBob BBS (AUS) welcome to sysop Bob Purdon aka
TassieBob who is based in Hobart and running a Mystic
BBS. You can say gidday to TassieBob and check out
his
system at bbs.tassiebob.com:2323 he also runs a
website
at https://www.tassiebob.com - welcome to fsxNet Bob
:)

Thanks! I must say the turnaround from application to up and working
was very quick, especially given you had other significant things
happening in your life at the same time! Between yourself and deon, it
was very quick and painless.

Radio silence from the other two nets I sent applications for...

Long live fsxNet :-)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: TassieBob BBS, Hobart, Tasmania (21:3/169)

... Platinum Xpress & Wildcat!..... Nice!!!!
--- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v7.0
* Origin: The File Bank BBS! https://tfb-bbs.org (21:5/101)

HI Terry,

Tasmania is part of Net 633 for Fidonet, Stephen Walsh is the NC and
he may be contacted on email vk3heg @ vk3heg.net to arrange a node
number. If you can't get hold of Stephen then get back to me.

You beet me to it!! ^-]



\/orlon
aka
Stephen


--- Talisman v0.42-dev (Linux/m68k)
* Origin: Vorlon Empire: Amiga 3000 powered in Sector 550 (21:1/195.1)

Hi Warpslide,

* Origin: TassieBob BBS, Hobart, Tasmania (21:3/169)

For Fidonet you're in Region 54, contact Terry Roati to get conneced
up there: www.tfb-bbs.org or sysop@tfb-bbs.org

Actually he dosen't... Net 633 covers Tassie, and I'm the nc for this
part of the world. #-)



\/orlon
aka
Stephen


--- Talisman v0.42-dev (Linux/m68k)
* Origin: Vorlon Empire: Amiga 3000 powered in Sector 550 (21:1/195.1)

On 03 Jul 2022 at 08:52p, tassiebob pondered and said...

Thanks! I must say the turnaround from application to up and working
was very quick, especially given you had other significant things happening in your life at the same time! Between yourself and deon, it was very quick and painless.
Radio silence from the other two nets I sent applications for...
Long live fsxNet :-)

Thanks Bob, appreciated. Deon did the hard yards I just welcomed you at the door :)

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Only because I have a little more time being retired :)

On Jul 04, 2022 10:30am, vorlon wrote to Terry Roati:

HI Terry,

Tasmania is part of Net 633 for Fidonet, Stephen Walsh is the NC and
he may be contacted on email vk3heg @ vk3heg.net to arrange a node
number. If you can't get hold of Stephen then get back to me.

You beet me to it!! ^-]

\/orlon
aka
Stephen

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Re: Re: Housekeeping
By: tassiebob to Avon on Sun Jul 03 2022 08:52 pm

Radio silence from the other two nets I sent applications for...

Which other nets?

I hub for a couple of others - but there are quite a few dead ones around now it seems :(


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If you haven't checked out Micronet:

https://www.minftn.net/

I hadn't, but I will :-)

And since you're running Mystic, you can also also join up to DOVE-Net which is a QWK network, so the setup is a little different. No application necessary, just connect yourself up at Vertrauen and follow

I'll check that one out too.

For Fidonet you're in Region 54, contact Terry Roati to get conneced up there: www.tfb-bbs.org or sysop@tfb-bbs.org

Fidonet is on the "soon" list. Way back when I was 3:670/203, but I don't think Net670 even exists these days.

Cheers.

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Tasmania is part of Net 633 for Fidonet, Stephen Walsh is the NC and he may be contacted on email vk3heg @ vk3heg.net to arrange a node number.
If you can't get hold of Stephen then get back to me.

I will do in due course. Stephen Walsh rings a bell - has he run a Fidonet node all this time, or am I thinking of a different Stephen? :-)

Cheers.

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Radio silence from the other two nets I sent applications for...

Which other nets?

tqwNet & RetroNet

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Re: Re: Housekeeping
By: tassiebob to deon on Mon Jul 04 2022 10:21 pm

Radio silence from the other two nets I sent applications for...

Which other nets?

tqwNet & RetroNet

Ahh, OK, tqwNet is alive and well, and your app may have got lost in the spam. Meatlotion hangs out here, so reach out again and he'll send your app to me :) Or send it to me anyway and I'll set you up and forward it to him.

RetroNet is dead I think (dont see much these days).


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Ahh, OK, tqwNet is alive and well, and your app may have got lost in the spam. Meatlotion hangs out here, so reach out again and he'll send your app to me :) Or send it to me anyway and I'll set you up and forward it
to him.

tqwNet I submitted the online form for - wasn't email. I'll re-do the app and email it through :-)

RetroNet is dead I think (dont see much these days).

Aww, bugger. I'll have to get my retro fix somewhere else :-(

Cheers.

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tqwNet & RetroNet

tqwNet is run by Meatloation.. Log on to his BBS he will get back to you pretty quickly usually. RetroNet depends on which one, Marisag runs a QWK RetroNet which she is usually pretty easy to get in touch with but if it is the RetroNet run by Necromaster, right now he is having some health issues I am told and his networks and board are pretty much on autopilot..

Al


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Hi Tassiebob,

For Fidonet you're in Region 54, contact Terry Roati to get
conneced up there: www.tfb-bbs.org or sysop@tfb-bbs.org

Fidonet is on the "soon" list. Way back when I was 3:670/203, but I
don't think Net670 even exists these days.

There are now only two net's left in Australia, Net 712 (Nothern net), and
Net 633 southern Net (Vic,SA,Tas,Misc).



\/orlon
aka
Stephen


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Hi Tassiebob,

may be contacted on email vk3heg @ vk3heg.net to arrange a node
number. If you can't get hold of Stephen then get back to me.

I will do in due course. Stephen Walsh rings a bell - has he run a
Fidonet node all this time, or am I thinking of a different Stephen?
:-)

I've been in fido for some time:

1990-1998 & 2007-Now

Been a normal node in various nets and NC. Since comming back in 2007,
I've been the NC for southern Australia and seen the SA/WA net's go
offline. TAS was already offline when I came back.

When your ready fling a email through and we'll get you up and going.

There are no Sacred Cows that need blessing or preying to anymore. @-)



\/orlon
aka
Stephen


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Re: Re: Housekeeping
By: tassiebob to deon on Mon Jul 04 2022 10:53 pm

tqwNet I submitted the online form for - wasn't email. I'll re-do the app and email it through :-)

OK, you are setup - I've sent you an email.

Meatlotion found your app - it went to Spam :( Sorry for the delay and the next round is on him. <chuckle>


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And since you're running Mystic, you can also also join up to DOVE-Net which is a QWK network, so the setup is a little different. No application necessary, just connect yourself up at Vertrauen and follow these instructions:

https://web.synchro.net/?page=001-forum.ssjs&sub=fsx_mys&thread=8277

I've never really understood what QWK is, or what you'd actually need it for, but this link may well provide me with a way in - I was toying with the idea of removing QWK from my system altogether.

Another thing to learn and tinker with :)

Cheers Jay, much appreciated.

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On 04 Jul 2022, tassiebob said the following...

RetroNet is dead I think (dont see much these days).

Aww, bugger. I'll have to get my retro fix somewhere else :-(

Cheers.

Well I'm sure there are a ton a retro folks right here. You might have missed the dumpster diving conversation that was going on for a couple months. What are you in to?

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Not sure as I used to be part of Zone 6, joined Zone 3 when I retired a few years ago.

Terry

On Jul 04, 2022 10:04pm, tassiebob wrote to Terry Roati:

Tasmania is part of Net 633 for Fidonet, Stephen Walsh is the NC and he
may be contacted on email vk3heg @ vk3heg.net to arrange a node number.
If you can't get hold of Stephen then get back to me.

I will do in due course. Stephen Walsh rings a bell - has he run a
Fidonet node all this time, or am I thinking of a different Stephen? :-)

Cheers.

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tqwNet is run by Meatloation.. Log on to his BBS he will get back to you pretty quickly usually.

I've been in touch with him (and Deon) since yesterday, and we're all sorted - just getting my end set up now.

QWK RetroNet which she is usually pretty easy to get in touch with but
if it is the RetroNet run by Necromaster, right now he is having some health issues I am told and his networks and board are pretty much on autopilot..

It's the latter I'm interested in. It can wait - hopefully his health is recovering!

Cheers.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
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I've been in fido for some time:

1990-1998 & 2007-Now

OK, so you'll be the Stephen Walsh I remember then :-) I started in either 1988 or 1989, and probably shut down around the mid-90's - I was renting and moving around a bit, and obviously changing phone numbers as I moved around was disruptive to users and expensive.

When your ready fling a email through and we'll get you up and going.

Will do - cheers!

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
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OK, you are setup - I've sent you an email.

Indeed - thankyou :-)

Meatlotion found your app - it went to Spam :( Sorry for the delay and
the next round is on him. <chuckle>

All good.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
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Well I'm sure there are a ton a retro folks right here. You might have missed the dumpster diving conversation that was going on for a couple months. What are you in to?

I caught the end of that one - was an interesting read.

I guess my favourite retro machines are the BBC's, for no other reason than they are what we had at school and what I used most back then.

These days I'm interested in exploring pretty much anything 8-bit - I picked up an SVI-328 maybe 6 months back and have had some fun poking around with that. I have a C64 I'm just about to play with - never had one as a kid - just fixing the PSU on that one. Once it's working I'll have to see if one of the floppy drives works...

Beyond 8-bits I've got a couple of Atari ST's and an Amiga 500.

One day I'll find an old XT or AT - might even build something new from one of the homebrew PC projects. I do have a homebrew CP/M machine I must finish putting in a case.

Like most people I expect, I regret tossing away the various machines I had in my earlier years. The Acorn Electron, the Osborne Executive, the Unitron 2200 (Apple 2 clone), the TRS-80, the XT, the various 286/386/486's... My brother's Amiga 1000 with sidecar (that he got rid of)... There's probably a couple more I've forgotten.

Of course there's a bunch of machines I'll acquire as money permits - TI99/4A is oddly interesting to me, as are the Australian Microbee's, an Apple ][GS (we had one at college and it interested me for some reason), a C128 is on the list, as is an Acorn Electron, maybe a Commodore PET (not that common around here), and any of the older CP/M machines. An Acorn Archimedes would be a nice addition too. One day :-)

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Am 04.07.22 schrieb tassiebob@21:3/169 in FSX_GEN:

Hallo tassiebob,

RetroNet is dead I think (dont see much these days).

Aww, bugger. I'll have to get my retro fix somewhere else :-(

Just have a look at the echo FSX_RETRO :)

And concerning other networks, there is also WeedNet, if you would
like to talk about anything hemp related :)
It's available as a FTN network from my BBS or as a QWK network from
Marisa.

You can find the infopack here: https://box.imzadi.de/?page=002-files.xjs&dir=weednet_infopack

Regards,
Anna

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tassiebob wrote to Warpslide <=-

Fidonet is on the "soon" list. Way back when I was 3:670/203, but I
don't think Net670 even exists these days.

When I took over Region 10 in Fidonet, I resurrected my old net, Net 125 -
but only briefly. It ended up making more sense to build out an IP-only network for the region.

1:125/57 was my first Fido address, and I used to call Tom Jenning's Fido, I think it was 125/10.


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around with that. I have a C64 I'm just about to play with - never had one as a kid - just fixing the PSU on that one. Once it's working I'll have to see if one of the floppy drives works...

Check out Adrian's Digital Basement on YouTube. He does tons of C64 troubleshooting videos. He can help guide you on those 1541s also.

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On 05 Jul 2022, tassiebob said the following...

I've been in touch with him (and Deon) since yesterday, and we're all sorted - just getting my end set up now.

Glad you got it all sorted out... :)

Al


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And since you're running Mystic, you can also also join up to DOVE-Ne which is a QWK network, so the setup is a little different. No application necessary, just connect yourself up at Vertrauen and fol these instructions:

https://web.synchro.net/?page=001-forum.ssjs&sub=fsx_mys&thread=8277

Hey guys, I just went through the setup and as it turned out ended up chatting with Digital Man the sysop of Vertrauen and I believe the owner of DOVE-Net... here are a couple of notes...

1) Make sure you set the DOVE-Net msg bases to 'Networked' not 'local'... this is not mentioned in the forum article and will prevent the tagline from working correctly even though you will be able to send and receive msgs.

2) Make sure you use this article for the further details... https://wiki.synchro.net/network:dove-net ... you will need this for the msg base id's and permissions for the forums, etc...

I've never really understood what QWK is, or what you'd actually need it for, but this link may well provide me with a way in - I was toying with the idea of removing QWK from my system altogether.

Another thing to learn and tinker with :)

Yeah, me neither, but it's actually pretty straight forward... a lot less complex than FTN's... it's a good project for an afternoon... enjoy!

-seeLive

Re-livin' the dream...

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Re: Re: Housekeeping
By: seeLive to TALIADON on Tue Jul 05 2022 06:17 pm

Hey guys, I just went through the setup and as it turned out ended up chatting with Digital Man the sysop of Vertrauen and I believe the owner of DOVE-Net...

Yes, Digital Man is the sysop of Vertrauen, as well as the owner of DOVE-Net. He's also the main author of Synchronet BBS software (Deuce has also contributed a lot to Synchronet).

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On 05 Jul 2022, tassiebob said the following...

I caught the end of that one - was an interesting read.

I guess my favourite retro machines are the BBC's, for no other reason than they are what we had at school and what I used most back then.

These days I'm interested in exploring pretty much anything 8-bit - I picked up an SVI-328 maybe 6 months back and have had some fun poking around with that. I have a C64 I'm just about to play with - never had one as a kid - just fixing the PSU on that one. Once it's working I'll have to see if one of the floppy drives works...

Beyond 8-bits I've got a couple of Atari ST's and an Amiga 500.

Well I can tell you not to waste your time with floppies. There is an emulator software for the PI. Thats the way to go. You can just emulate the drive and use the TOSEC. I think its up to 5000 plus images for the C64. I also have one for the AMIGA 1200 I have. Floppy emulators were a must have for any retro nerd.

I have 2 C64s and the A1200. Had a 500 but after begging and pleading I traded it to someone that didn't have any retro gear. Only kinda regret it. Had a few CD32s and the SX1 which basically made it an A1200 so didn't mind trading those away. Only system I really regret is not keeping my first PC which was a 486 SX20. I learned so much from that machine. Pretty sure it just got tossed once my mom didn't want it anymore. Should have said I want it but what are you going to do now?

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Yes, Digital Man is the sysop of Vertrauen, as well as the owner of DOVE-Net. He's also the main author of Synchronet BBS software (Deuce
has also contributed a lot to Synchronet).

Thanks, for the info...

Re-livin' the dream...

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Hi all

From history.txt

[snip]

2022-07-05
Added Node 3/172 d0p3.intersrv.net BBS (AUS) welcome aboard to sysop
Nicholas Brennan aka tetrazocine. tetrazocine is based in
Melbourne and is running a Synchronet BBS. You can reach
the BBS at d0p3.intersrv.net

[snip]

Welcome aboard Nicholas :)

A new nodelist with changes posted in the last few days will be hatched out in the coming 12 hours.

Best, Paul

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On 06 Jul 2022, Avon said the following...

Added Node 3/172 d0p3.intersrv.net BBS (AUS) welcome aboard to sysop
Nicholas Brennan aka tetrazocine. tetrazocine is based
in Melbourne and is running a Synchronet BBS. You can reach the BBS at d0p3.intersrv.net

Welcome to fsxNet, Nicholas! Nice to have you here!

Best regards
Zip

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Just have a look at the echo FSX_RETRO :)

I do carry that one, although it's kinda quiet right now.

And concerning other networks, there is also WeedNet, if you would
like to talk about anything hemp related :)

That'd be network 420, yeah? Not really my thing, but I'll keep it in mind in case anyone asks :-)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
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Check out Adrian's Digital Basement on YouTube. He does tons of C64 troubleshooting videos. He can help guide you on those 1541s also.

Yes he does - I watch pretty much all of his videos, and support him on Patreon.

As far as I know, my C64 should work - I hope so at least, as unlike Adrian I don't have a tray of spare PLA's, SID's, CIA's, VIC-II's, and so on :-( One day maybe, LoL.

Cheers,
Bob.

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Well I can tell you not to waste your time with floppies. There is an emulator software for the PI. Thats the way to go. You can just
emulate the drive and use the TOSEC. I think its up to 5000 plus images for the C64. I also have one for the AMIGA 1200 I have. Floppy
emulators were a must have for any retro nerd.

I agree, although I still like the old floppy drive. Memories...

I've got a couple of Gotek's kicking around, and I'm aware of the Pi based emulators for the Commodore machines. If the 64 grows on me then I'll probably go that way.

I have 2 C64s and the A1200.

I'd trade my A500 for an A1200, but the only person I know with an A1200 ain't parting with it (and I don't blame him at all).

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Am 06.07.22 schrieb tassiebob@21:3/169 in FSX_GEN:

Hallo tassiebob,

And concerning other networks, there is also WeedNet, if you would
like to talk about anything hemp related :)

That'd be network 420, yeah?

Yep, it is :)

Not really my thing, but I'll keep it in mind in case anyone asks
:-)

No problem :)

Regards,
Anna

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I've been in fido for some time:

1990-1998 & 2007-Now

OK, so you'll be the Stephen Walsh I remember then :-) I started in
either 1988 or 1989, and probably shut down around the mid-90's - I
was renting and moving around a bit, and obviously changing phone
numbers as I moved around was disruptive to users and expensive.

Even though we don't have "phone numbers" systems still move around a
bit. %-)

Now it's a matter of a stable internet connection, and without CGN in the way....



\/orlon
aka
Stephen


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Hi Tassiebob,

Just have a look at the echo FSX_RETRO :)

I do carry that one, although it's kinda quiet right now.

Do a netmail to areafix to rescan the area or any others you want.


%RESCAN FSX_RETRO



\/orlon
aka
Stephen


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Even though we don't have "phone numbers" systems still move around a
bit. %-)

True, but at least if I move I can keep my static IP (I work for a telco, so moving my IP to another state, or even another country, isn't a big deal).

Now it's a matter of a stable internet connection, and without CGN in the way....

Yeah, CGN... We're about to roll that for our residential services, but it won't apply to existing customers, and it'll be easy enough to opt-out of. If only IPv6 had got more traction sooner.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
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Do a netmail to areafix to rescan the area or any others you want.

Did that when I first connected to the net - just hasn't been much activity in recent days is what I was meaning. Plenty of historical conversation :-)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
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Now it's a matter of a stable internet connection, and without
CGN in the way....

Yeah, CGN... We're about to roll that for our residential services,
but it won't apply to existing customers, and it'll be easy enough to opt-out of. If only IPv6 had got more traction sooner.

What the *(&%$ rolling out CGN. IPv6 is supported on so many things now.
What brain dead moron made that choice....

I had a run in with a web developer a few weeks ago that said "IPv4 is
enough", until pointing out that for example, Telstra mobiles default to
IPv6 and only fall back to IPv4 if they really have to.

There is really no reason to not use IPv6, with dual-stack. It's just
trying to beat a dead horse and stuff it into a small box to still be
doing Ipv4 via CGN....

So many devices now have support for both.




\/orlon
aka
Stephen


--- Talisman v0.42-dev (Linux/m68k)
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Hi tassiebob,

Do a netmail to areafix to rescan the area or any others you
want.

Did that when I first connected to the net - just hasn't been much
activity in recent days is what I was meaning. Plenty of historical conversation :-)

Oh, I'll make sure to post in there when I get the current project to the "public' stage and it'll stire some intrest from the Amiga users of the
net. #-)

Writing the documentation of any project is the hardest part, and the
most boring. Working on the project is so much more fun.... #-)



\/orlon
aka
Stephen


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Re: Re: Housekeeping
By: vorlon to tassiebob on Sat Jul 09 2022 10:58 am

Howdy,

There is really no reason to not use IPv6, with dual-stack. It's just
trying to beat a dead horse and stuff it into a small box to still be
doing Ipv4 via CGN....

I reckon they should just set a date to stop routing IPv4 and let everybody scramble to get IPv6 going.

Sure things will break, but the sun will still come up in the morning. And for those things that break, somebody will make a device that keeps them going. Most of the "core infrastructure" *should* be IPv6 ready and if not they should pull their finger out and get it working.

I've pretty much converted home to IPv6, even using DNS64 and NAT64 at home, so my dependancy on IPv4 is limited to only those site that only publish an IPv4 address.

I'm going to (eventually) turn off ipv4 dhcp and stop giving my systems IPv4 addresses - now that they all get IPv6 ones and have inbound NAT catch the inbound IPv4 stuff that goes to haproxy that channels it over IPv6. I just want my run in my NAT64 to see what breaks - and it seems to be running well now (for the last month or few).


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What the *(&%$ rolling out CGN. IPv6 is supported on so many things now. What brain dead moron made that choice....

I agree with you. Our network has supported dual-stack since forever, but in the residential space having half decent IPv6 support in CPE hardware is only a relatively recent thing - and even today it's not "great".

Of course there are CPE devices that do IPv6 just fine - lower end Cisco, Mikrotik, and roll-your-own routers/firewalls - but the average oldies expect to buy a $50 device and have it just work (I'd suggest most people using BBS's are well above the "average oldie" skill level).

It's also very true that increasing the take-up of native IPv6 amongst residential users reduces the scale of the CGNAT deployment required to support those who are IPv4 only for some reason.

I had a run in with a web developer a few weeks ago that said "IPv4 is enough", until pointing out that for example, Telstra mobiles default to IPv6 and only fall back to IPv4 if they really have to.

I'm not sure Telstra even do that any more - didn't they go fully IPv6 only on the handsets, and do some sort of translation/proxying for IPv4 endpoints? I wasn't paying a lot of attention to be honest, but pretty sure they did that 6-12 months back.

Similar discussions to what you had with your web developer can be had with helpdesk managers too - "Why should we upskill the agents to understand IPv6 when IPv4 works? We have enough to do already!". Well, at some point you'll have to either upskill them on either CGNAT or IPv6, so you may as well do it right the first time.

There is really no reason to not use IPv6, with dual-stack.

In the residential space there's resistance due to the support overhead of CPE devices that don't work quite right. Heck, some very popular CPE devices struggle to get IPv4 right (we've found some BNG bugs caused by misbehaving CPE that despite being current models are still running versions of code 10+ years old).

I do wish providers (the one I work for included) would select a preferred CPE vendor and force them to straighten out their IPv6 where needed and then enable it by default. An ISP we recently acquired does IPv6 by default for residential, and I'm hoping our own brand follows their lead.

For our wholesale & enterprise customers we do dual-stack by default, and have done for years.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: TassieBob BBS, Hobart, Tasmania (21:3/169)

Writing the documentation of any project is the hardest part, and the
most boring. Working on the project is so much more fun.... #-)

107% agree.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: TassieBob BBS, Hobart, Tasmania (21:3/169)

I reckon they should just set a date to stop routing IPv4 and let everybody scramble to get IPv6 going.

That'd be entertaining :-)

I reckon one way to encourage web site owners and developers to go IPv6 would be for Google to pagerank sites with IPv6 enabled higher than IPv4 only sites.

Want better search engine rankings? Use a web server that supports IPv6!

Web hosting provider doesn't support IPv6? Find one that does!

Losing customers because you don't support IPv6? Support it then!

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: TassieBob BBS, Hobart, Tasmania (21:3/169)

Hi tassiebob,

What the *(&%$ rolling out CGN. IPv6 is supported on so many
things now. What brain dead moron made that choice....

I agree with you. Our network has supported dual-stack since forever,
but in the residential space having half decent IPv6 support in CPE
hardware is only a relatively recent thing - and even today it's not "great".

The usual thing $$ out rulling making it work right.

Of course there are CPE devices that do IPv6 just fine - lower end
Cisco, Mikrotik, and roll-your-own routers/firewalls - but the average oldies expect to buy a $50 device and have it just work (I'd suggest
most people using BBS's are well above the "average oldie" skill

There is the same $$$ over rulling, most isp's supply a router at no
charge to new customers, unless the customer deciced to use an existing
device. It wouldn't be to hard for them to use a better router, and
recover the costs like they do now over time. Most want a 2 year
contract.

"IPv4 is enough", until pointing out that for example, Telstra
mobiles default to IPv6 and only fall back to IPv4 if they really

have to.

I'm not sure Telstra even do that any more - didn't they go fully IPv6
only on the handsets, and do some sort of translation/proxying for
IPv4 endpoints? I wasn't paying a lot of attention to be honest, but
pretty sure they did that 6-12 months back.

Yes, with a memory re-fresh. They went native IPv6, and then
proxi/translation for sites that only had IPv4. (Ala, CGN but in reverse).

Well, at some point you'll have to either upskill them on either CGNAT
or IPv6, so you may as well do it right the first time.

That's one of the things holding back IPv6 takeup.

There is really no reason to not use IPv6, with dual-stack.

In the residential space there's resistance due to the support
overhead of CPE devices that don't work quite right. Heck, some very popular CPE devices struggle to get IPv4 right (we've found some BNG
bugs caused by misbehaving CPE that despite being current models are
still running versions of code 10+ years old).

The "hacked" Telstra business router (A netgear under the hood), has
support for IPv6, but the config options for it are very limiting. I
*hate* that router, but then when it's supplied to clients as part of the connection... Plus the other thing is that it's web interface is *slow*.

An ISP we recently acquired does IPv6 by default for residential, and
I'm hoping our own brand follows their lead.

That's why I went with internode when moving home four years ago. Native
IPv6, and vie the NBN Fixed-Wireless.

It's only been recently (Past year) that the HFC iinet cable systen
started supporting IPv6. A least they got there...



\/orlon
aka
Stephen


--- Talisman v0.42-dev (Linux/m68k)
* Origin: Vorlon Empire: Amiga 3000 powered in Sector 550 (21:1/195.1)

There is the same $$$ over rulling, most isp's supply a router at no charge to new customers, unless the customer deciced to use an existing device. It wouldn't be to hard for them to use a better router, and recover the costs like they do now over time. Most want a 2 year
contract.

You're 100% right - the catch (I think) is that ISP's want to just pick something off the shelf, get a discount price for 10,000 of them, maybe get their name printed on the plastic case, and start selling.

Not too many are willing to put in the hard yards to get the IPv6 working properly - and by "hard yards" I mean telling the vendor "I'll buy 10,000 of your units, but you need to implement this, this, and this to our satisfaction first". Use the carrot to drag them into the 21st century :-)

I _think_ the Exetel guys did a fair bit of work with ZTE, but I don't know how much of that was IPv6 related vs other desirable features. I should get them to send me one to play with :-)

An ISP we recently acquired does IPv6 by default for residential, and
I'm hoping our own brand follows their lead.

That's why I went with internode when moving home four years ago. Native IPv6, and vie the NBN Fixed-Wireless.

Internode, back before the TPG acquisition, were one of those ISP's who were willing to do the hard work to get a solution that worked properly - I remember the guys there doing a lot of work with Cisco to get the LNS platform to play nicely, and I think they did a fair bit with a couple of the CPE vendors too.

I used to be an Internode customer, until the "great Basslink fubar of 201x"...


--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20220504
* Origin: TassieBob's BBS (21:3/169)

I reckon they should just set a date to stop routing IPv4 and let everybody scramble to get IPv6 going.

Probably the best choice... But I have never been able to wrap my brain around IPV6. I even struggle with subnetting in IPV4.

I've never really found a good source to teach IPv6 that doesn't rely on a strong understanding of IPv4.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: The Ratrace Losers (21:3/166)

Re: Re: Housekeeping
By: 2twisty to deon on Mon Jul 11 2022 09:08 am

I reckon they should just set a date to stop routing IPv4 and let everybody scramble to get IPv6 going.

Probably the best choice... But I have never been able to wrap my brain around IPV6. I even struggle with subnetting in IPV4.

I've never really found a good source to teach IPv6 that doesn't rely on a strong understanding of IPv4.

So for the majority of use cases, IPv6 is a hands off operation.

Your router discovers the "subnet" allocated to it.

Your router feeds the devices in your lan an IPv6 address automatically (discovery)

If you want to split your subnet up because you have multiple lans, then "smart" routers can do that too - although I must admit its a bit hit and miss sometimes (what I want, and what I get can be 2 different things).

If you want to go manual, and configure everything yourself you can - but yes, the knowledge required is higher than that of IPv4 (IMHO).

But with both IPv4 & IPv6, you take the "subnet" and the "mask" to get 1 answer - is this packet destined to somebody on my LAN, or do I need to give it to another router (that makes the same decision)? If the packet is destined for the LAN, the kernel drops the packet on the wire with the destinations address. If it isnt, its dropped on the wire with the router's address - where the router picks it up and makes the same decision.

There is a useful tool called "ipcalc" which enables you to see what address range is "local":

╰─$ ipcalc 10.1.0.0/24
Address: 10.1.0.0 00001010.00000001.00000000. 00000000
Netmask: 255.255.255.0 = 24 11111111.11111111.11111111. 00000000
Wildcard: 0.0.0.255 00000000.00000000.00000000. 11111111

Network: 10.1.0.0/24 00001010.00000001.00000000. 00000000
HostMin: 10.1.0.1 00001010.00000001.00000000. 00000001
HostMax: 10.1.0.254 00001010.00000001.00000000. 11111110
Broadcast: 10.1.0.255 00001010.00000001.00000000. 11111111
Hosts/Net: 254 Class A, Private Internet

There is a similar version for IPv6 - but I use https://www.vultr.com/resources/subnet-calculator-ipv6/


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deon wrote to 2twisty <=-

So for the majority of use cases, IPv6 is a hands off operation.

Your router discovers the "subnet" allocated to it.

Your router feeds the devices in your lan an IPv6 address automatically (discovery)

So, apparently, my router has IPV6 turned on, and is receiving an IPV6
address from my ISP. One of the people on the Fido IPV6 echo scanned my address and let me know!

I haven't gotten it working yet, my understanding was that Comcast wasn't rolling out IPV6 yet.


... Do nothing for as long as possible
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Re: Re: Housekeeping
By: poindexter FORTRAN to deon on Tue Jul 12 2022 07:38 am

So, apparently, my router has IPV6 turned on, and is receiving an IPV6 address from my ISP. One of the people on the Fido IPV6 echo scanned my address and let me know!

I haven't gotten it working yet, my understanding was that Comcast wasn't rolling out IPV6 yet.

Sounds like they might be.

If you router has an IPv6 address, do the devices on your LAN also have one?

Sadly as somebody said once somewhere, many ISPs are playing, testing IPv6 and in some cases have rolled it out, but end users dont know and their CPE cant handle it if they do...


...ëîåï
--- SBBSecho 3.15-Linux
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Hi all

From history.txt

[snip]

2022-07-14
Added Node 2/125 Kumpute BBS (CAN) a warm welcome to sysop Madison Brooks aka
Fae Empress who is based in Kamloops, Canada. Running a
Mystic BBS you can reach the system at bbs.kumpute.org
Fae, thanks for joining fsxNet and welcome aboard :)

Added Node 3/173 Step to the Left BBS (AUS) please welcome sysop and amateur
radio operator Jared Quinn (VK2WAY) who is based in Sydney,
Australia. Running an Enigma 1/2 system you can check out
the BBS by heading to bbs.vk2way.id.au ... welcome Jared
nice to have you as a member of the fsxNet community.

[snip]

A warm welcome to you both.

Apologies, as there are a couple of other nodes I will need to add retrospectively when I am back home in a few weeks. Fae, your node will appear in next weeks nodelist to be hatched out in the next 7 days.

Best, Paul

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

On 16 Jul 2022, Avon said the following...

2022-07-14
Added Node 2/125 Kumpute BBS (CAN) a warm welcome to sysop Madison
Brooks aka Fae Empress who is based in Kamloops,
Canada. Running a Mystic BBS you can reach the system

Added Node 3/173 Step to the Left BBS (AUS) please welcome sysop and amateur radio operator Jared Quinn (VK2WAY) who is
based in Sydney, Australia. Running an Enigma 1/2

Welcome, Madison & Jared! Nice to have you here!

Best regards
Zip

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/13 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (21:1/202)

Welcome, Madison & Jared! Nice to have you here!

Thank you for the welcome. It's nice to be back in the BBS scene again
after a long long long hiatus. XD

+ Kumpute Nation BBS bbs.kumpute.org:2323 +
+ Faeland MUD + fsxnet + CiberNET + DOVE-Net +

... Consultant: A person who makes good on a salesman's promises!

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Kumpute BBS (21:2/125)

On Sat Jul 16 11:10:00 2022, Avon wrote to All <=-

Added Node 2/125 Kumpute BBS (CAN) a warm welcome to sysop Madison Brooks aka
Fae Empress who is based in Kamloops, Canada. Running a
Mystic BBS you can reach the system at bbs.kumpute.org
Fae, thanks for joining fsxNet and welcome aboard :)

Added Node 3/173 Step to the Left BBS (AUS) please welcome sysop and amateur
radio operator Jared Quinn (VK2WAY) who is based in Sydney,
Australia. Running an Enigma 1/2 system you can check out
the BBS by heading to bbs.vk2way.id.au ... welcome Jared
nice to have you as a member of the fsxNet community.

Salute & welcome.

... A seminar on Time Travel is scheduled to be held 2 weeks ago.
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--- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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Hi all

From history.txt

[snip]

2022-07-19
Updated Node 2/128 seeLive's rusty Hedgehog BBS (USA) is now called oNyX BBS
the address is onyxbbs.mywire.org:2300 (telnet) or use port
2200 for SSH. The nodelist and systems.txt has been updated.

Added Node 2/109 ByteBarn BBS (GER) welcome to sysop Markus Maussner aka
Tassilo who is based in Sernow, Germany and running a Mystic
BBS powered by Debian. You can reach the system at
bbs.bytebarn.de:2300 Great to have you as a member of our
online community Tassilo :)

[snip]

Apologies to both nodes for the delay in getting these updates posted.

These will reflect in the next hatched nodelist etc. at the end of this week.

Best, Paul

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

On 19 Jul 2022, Avon said the following...

Added Node 2/109 ByteBarn BBS (GER) welcome to sysop Markus Maussner aka
Tassilo who is based in Sernow, Germany and running a Mystic BBS powered by Debian. You can reach the system
at bbs.bytebarn.de:2300 Great to have you as a member
of our online community Tassilo :)

Welcome to fsxNet, Markus! Nice to have you here, and nice to see some more Debian systems. =)

Best regards
Zip

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/15 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (21:1/202)

On 19 Jul 2022, Avon said the following...

Added Node 2/109 ByteBarn BBS (GER) welcome to sysop Markus Maussner aka
Tassilo who is based in Sernow, Germany and running a Mystic BBS powered by Debian. You can reach the system
at bbs.bytebarn.de:2300 Great to have you as a member
of our online community Tassilo :)

Wilkommen Tassilo! Good to have you here!

... The seminar on time travel will be held two weeks ago

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: oNyX bBs - onyxbbs.mywire.org:2300/2200 (21:2/128)

On Tue Jul 19 10:28:00 2022, Avon wrote to All <=-

2022-07-19
Updated Node 2/128 seeLive's rusty Hedgehog BBS (USA) is now called oNyX BBS
the address is onyxbbs.mywire.org:2300 (telnet) or use port
2200 for SSH. The nodelist and systems.txt has been updated.

Added Node 2/109 ByteBarn BBS (GER) welcome to sysop Markus Maussner aka
Tassilo who is based in Sernow, Germany and running a Mystic
BBS powered by Debian. You can reach the system at
bbs.bytebarn.de:2300 Great to have you as a member of our
online community Tassilo :)

SALUTE! Welcome to the net both of you.

... If the #2 pencil is the most popular, why's it still #2?
=== TitanMail/winnt v1.1.6
--- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
* Origin: fsxNet FTN<>QWK Gateway (21:4/10)

Hi all

I looked at HISTORY.TXT and found these changes

[snip]

2022-04-18
Updated Node 1/202 Star Collision BBS (SWE) has changed it's telnet port to
port scbbs.nsupdate.info:61023 systems.txt has been updated.

Added Node 1/211 NeedFul Things BBS (CAN) welcome aboard to sysop Michael
Dennison who is based in Lindsay, Canada. Michael is setting
up a Mystic BBS and you can reach his new system by heading
to NeedFulThings.ddns.net:2381

Added Node 1/210 Noverdu BBS (USA) please welcome sysop Jonah Clausen aka
DrClaw. Hailing from South Saint Paul, MN, You can connect to
the BBS via noverdu.com or noverdu.fsxnet.nz

[snip]

These changes will be reflected in the next nodelist that hatches in the next 4-5 days.

Best, Paul

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

On 18 Apr 2022, Avon said the following...

Updated Node 1/202 Star Collision BBS (SWE) has changed it's telnet port to port scbbs.nsupdate.info:61023 systems.txt has been updated.

Thanks a lot! :)

Added Node 1/211 NeedFul Things BBS (CAN) welcome aboard to sysop Michael
Dennison who is based in Lindsay, Canada. Michael is

Added Node 1/210 Noverdu BBS (USA) please welcome sysop Jonah Clausen aka
DrClaw. Hailing from South Saint Paul, MN, You can

Welcome to fsxNet, Michael & Jonah! Nice to have you here!

Best regards
Zip

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/04/03 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (21:1/202)

Added Node 1/210 Noverdu BBS (USA) please welcome sysop Jonah Clausen aka
DrClaw. Hailing from South Saint Paul, MN, You can connect to the BBS via noverdu.com or noverdu.fsxnet.nz

Thank you for the kind welcome. I'm not sure that its working 100% its clear the mystic guy video is a bit dated. I'm pretty sure I have the event system not correctly setup. If run it manually it all happens in less than 2 seconds. Watching the events viewer it runs and stays running for quite some time. I tried chatting on MRC and don't seem to find many people that can help. Everyone said its been so long since they set it up. I emailed Paul and hope I can possibly get a little of his time.

thank you all.
If any one feels like trying to help I am running on xubunu so it is a linux system and my name on discord is Claw22000#5812 or as claw in MRC.

DrClaw
Sysop Noverdu BBS (Noverdu.com)
BBS Specs 64 CORE/192G Ram/Dell Server

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Noverdu BBS (21:1/210)

From history.txt

[snip]

2022-09-28
Updated Node 2/162 The Freespeak BBS (USA) is now called BBS Gametime and the
domain changes to web.bbsgametime.com the nodelist has been
updated with these changes.

[snip]

Changes will reflect in the next nodelist to be hatched in the coming 48 hours.

Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

Hi all.

Hope you're going well.

Some changes to history.txt were spotted... here's what has appeared :)

[snip]

2022-11-09
Added Node 1/128 Drakonai BBS (LTU) a warm welcome to Audrius Puplinskas who
is based in Lithuania. Running Mystic BBS you can reach his
system at bbs.drakonai.lt :)

2022-11-06
Added Node 3/174 Made to Raid BBS (USA) welcome aboard to sysop Chris Manigan
aka Ganiman. Running a Mystic BBS you can reach his system
by heading to bbs.madetoraid.com:2323 or use 2222 for SSH

2022-11-03
Updated Node 4/182 RedFrog BBS (EST) now operates on port 2323 for Telnet
connections. The IPv6 address connected with
redfrog.fsxnet.nz:2323 has also been updated.

[snip]

Best, Paul

Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

On 09 Nov 2022, Avon said the following...

Added Node 1/128 Drakonai BBS (LTU) a warm welcome to Audrius Puplinskas who is based in Lithuania. Running Mystic BBS you can

Added Node 3/174 Made to Raid BBS (USA) welcome aboard to sysop Chris Manigan aka Ganiman. Running a Mystic BBS you can reach

Welcome to fsxNet, Audrius & Chris! Nice to have you here!

Best regards
Zip

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/15 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (21:1/202)

Hi all

From history.txt I spotted some new text..

[snip]

2022-11-15
Added Node 1/130 The Unmarked Van (USA) please welcome sysop Dave Scott who
aka Alonzo who is running a Mystic BBS under Windows 10.
Dave is based at Mt. Healthy, Ohio and you can reach his BBS
by heading to unmarkedvan.fsxnet.nz

[snip]

Best, Paul

Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

On 15 Nov 2022, Avon said the following...

2022-11-15
Added Node 1/130 The Unmarked Van (USA) please welcome sysop Dave Scott who aka Alonzo who is running a Mystic BBS under
Windows 10. Dave is based at Mt. Healthy, Ohio and you can reach his BBS by heading to unmarkedvan.fsxnet.nz

Welcome to fsxNet, Dave! Nice to have you here!

Best regards
Zip

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/15 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (21:1/202)

from history.txt

[snip]

2022-11-30
Removed Node 1/159 The GateHouse BBS has been delisted at sysop request.

2022-11-16
Removed Node 3/117 Runaan BBS inactive and has been delisted.

Removed Node 3/163 42bytes BBS inactive and has been delisted.

Removed Node 3/164 Angstridden BBS inactive and has been delisted.

Removed Node 3/165 The Underground BBS inactive and has been delisted.

Removed Node 3/166 The Ratrace Losers inactive and has been delisted.

[snip]

doing some pruning of inactive nodes etc. I expect a few more to be done in the coming week or so along with some new additions also.

Best, Paul

Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

Hi there.

Glancing about the room I spotted some changes in history.txt so like a good whodunnit I thought I'd share...

[snip]

2022-12-10
Added Node 1/133 Blacklight Underground BBS (USA) please welcome returning
sysop Jim Haight aka Jahmas. Jahmas hails from
West Barnstable, Massachusetts and is running a Mystic BBS
that you can reach at majicka.at2k.org:2424

Added Node 1/135 Brokedown Palace, Reprise BBS (USA) also joining the fsxNet
community please make welcome sysop Steven Southworth aka
Shaggy. Shaggy is running a WWIV system under Linux. The
BBS can be found at palace.brokedownpalace.online:2323 for
telent or use port 2222 for SSH connections.


Added Node 1/136 N4TDX BBS (USA) Ricky DeLuco is spinning up a new Mystic
powered system called N4TDX, you can find this by heading
to n4tdx.ddns.net:2323

[snip]

Best, Paul

Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

On 10 Dec 2022, Avon said the following...

Added Node 1/133 Blacklight Underground BBS (USA) please welcome
returning sysop Jim Haight aka Jahmas. Jahmas hails

Added Node 1/135 Brokedown Palace, Reprise BBS (USA) also joining the fsxNet community please make welcome sysop Steven Southworth aka Shaggy. Shaggy is running a WWIV system

Welcome back, Jim and welcome, Steven!

Best regards
Zip

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/15 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (21:1/202)

On 10 Dec 2022, Avon said the following...

Added Node 1/133 Blacklight Underground BBS (USA) please welcome returning sysop Jim Haight aka Jahmas. Jahmas hails

Thanks for shout out. Thank you Avon for the node. Working on installing all the echos and then update my ancient Mystic board :O

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Windows)
* Origin: Blacklight Underground BBS (21:1/133)

Hello jahmas!

On 10 Dec 2022, jahmas said the following...

Thanks for shout out. Thank you Avon for the node. Working on installing all the echos and then update my ancient Mystic board :O

You're very welcome!

Yep, a couple of versions in between =), but as long as you go through the whatsnew file step by step, you should probably be fine!

Hoping all will go well with the update(s)!

Best regards
Zip

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/15 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (21:1/202)

Hi there.

More persistent than your kids asking 'what time is it?' please say hello to the latest update to history.txt :)

[snip]

2023-01-02
Happy New Year and best wishes to you for the year ahead. Thanks for taking part in fsxNet and I hope you continue to enjoy the BBSing hobby throughout 2023. Just a note that NET 1 will shortly undergo a tidy-up/prune of inactive nodes. I am also looking to remove/add a few echomail areas in the coming
days and weeks.

Added Node 1/159 Bad Poetry Blues BBS (CAN) welcome back to sysop Mick
Manning aka Mickey who is running his Synchronet powered BBS

from Campbellford. You can reach his system by heading to
centralontarioremote.com welcome back to fsxNet Mickey it's
great to have you back on the scene :)

[snip]

Best, Paul

Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

On 02 Jan 2023, Avon said the following...

Happy New Year and best wishes to you for the year ahead. Thanks for

Thanks Avon, and a Happy New Year to you, too!

tidy-up/prune of inactive nodes. I am also looking to remove/add a few echomail areas in the coming days and weeks.

Noted! :)

Added Node 1/159 Bad Poetry Blues BBS (CAN) welcome back to sysop Mick
Manning aka Mickey who is running his Synchronet
powered BBS

Welcome back, Mick!

Best regards
Zip

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (21:1/202)

Seems that history.txt has morphed again.

Here's what I spotted..

[snip]

2023-01-05
Added Node 1/162 Midnight Coffee BBS (USA) welcome aboard Jim McBride aka
Spaceman who hails from St. Louis. Spaceman is running an
Enigma 1/2 BBS and you can reach it via SSH by heading to
ssh.midnightcoffee.org:31323

Removed Node 1/177 Nephilim BBS has been delisted.

[snip]

Best, Paul

Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

On 05 Jan 2023, Avon said the following...

2023-01-05
Added Node 1/162 Midnight Coffee BBS (USA) welcome aboard Jim McBride aka
Spaceman who hails from St. Louis. Spaceman is running

Welcome to fsxNet, Jim! Nice to have you here.

Best regards
Zip

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (21:1/202)

Avon wrote to All <=-

Added Node 1/162 Midnight Coffee BBS (USA) welcome aboard Jim McBride
aka
Spaceman who hails from St. Louis. Spaceman is running
an
Enigma 1/2 BBS and you can reach it via SSH by heading
to
ssh.midnightcoffee.org:31323

Welcome to FSXnet!




... Spelling is a sober man's game
--- MultiMail/DOS
* Origin: possumso.fsxnet.nz * SSH:2122/telnet:24/ftelnet:80 (21:4/134)

Twas Friday, January 6th when Avon said...

2023-01-05 Added Node 1/162 Midnight Coffee BBS (USA) welcome aboard Jim McBride aka Spaceman who hails from St. Louis. Spaceman is running an Enigma 1/2 BBS and you can reach it via SSH by heading to ssh.midnightcoffee.org:31323

Welcome to our madness & hope you're enjoying enig!


--
|08 â–  |12NuSkooler |06// |12Xibalba |08- |07"|06The place of fear|07"
|08 â–  |03xibalba|08.|03l33t|08.|03codes |08(|0344510|08/|03telnet|08, |0344511|08/|03ssh|08)
|08 â–  |03ENiGMA 1/2 WHQ |08| |03Phenom |08| |0367 |08| |03iMPURE |08| |03ACiDic
--- ENiGMA 1/2 v0.0.14-beta (linux; x64; 16.16.0)
* Origin: Xibalba -+- xibalba.l33t.codes:44510 (21:1/121)

Egads.... history.txt morphed again.

[snip]

2023-01-09
Removed 1/233 Paranor BBS (CAN) has been inactive 60+ days, no contact
from sysop, the node has been delisted.

2023-01-06
Updated Node 1/124 apernevan.tk BBS (ROU) has been marked as 'Down' in the
nodelist. Sysop advises he is rebuilding his system with a
new domain name to follow soon.

Updated Node 1/221 The FBO BBS is no longer marked as 'Down' in the nodelist.


[snip]

Best, Paul

Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

Hi all.

[snip]

2023-01-11
Removed Node 1/156 Insomnia City BBS has closed while sysop works to relocate
his system to a new hardware platform.

2023-01-10
NET 4 housekeeping. A number of nodes have been inactive for 80+ days so it's time for a tidy up of the nodelist:

Removed Node 4/107 Carnage! BBS inactive and has been delisted.
Removed Node 4/129 Hive 32 BBS inactive and has been delisted. Removed Node 4/132 Black Flag OBV/2 inactive and has been delisted.
Removed Node 4/133 sbbs.dynu.net inactive and has been delisted.
Removed Node 4/135 PiBBS inactive and has been delisted.
Removed Node 4/140 Redshift BBS inactive and has been delisted.
Removed Node 4/143 Eggy BBS inactive and has been delisted.
Removed Node 4/146 GGNET BBS inactive and has been delisted.
Removed Node 4/166 Black Lodge Research inactive and has been delisted. Removed Node 4/115 TCS Online BBS sysop has shutdown their BBS.
Removed Node 4/123 SpaceX Starship BBS inactive and has been delisted.
Removed Node 4/160 Brotherhood of Groovynes inactive and has been delisted. Removed Node 4/179 Moon Base Camp BBS inactive and has been delisted.
Removed Node 4/104 Herbies BBS II inactive and has been delisted.
Removed Node 4/111 HotDogEd inactive and has been delisted.
Removed Node 4/127 The Oasis BBS inactive and has been delisted.
Removed Node 4/142 Off the Wall inactive and has been delisted.

2023-01-09
Removed Node 1/233 Paranor BBS (CAN) has been inactive 60+ days, no contact
from sysop, the node has been delisted.

[snip]

Best, Paul

Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

On 12 Jan 2023, Avon said the following...

Hi all.
2023-01-11
Removed Node 1/156 Insomnia City BBS has closed while sysop works to

No pink slip in my locker, made the cut. sweet!!

|11ú|03-|09Ä|01Ä· |15K|07¡|08dd |01ÖÄÄ|09ú-|03ú |11ú
|01Ó |15W|07¡ck|08ed |01Ó

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Sinner's Haven 2.0 (21:1/169)

Hi all

[snip]

2023-01-12
Added Node 1/177 Goosenet BBS (GER) welcome back to sysop Michael Geller
aka Goose who is based in Nuremberg, Germany. Goose is
running a Mystic BBS you can reach his system (just getting
set up now) by heading to bbs.nifty5fty.com ports 22 and 23
Welcome back Goose to the scene. :)

[snip]

Best, Paul

Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

Re: Housekeeping
By: Kidd Wicked to Avon on Wed Jan 11 2023 08:03 pm

Hi all.
2023-01-11
Removed Node 1/156 Insomnia City BBS has closed while sysop works to

No pink slip in my locker, made the cut. sweet!!

Apparently I got back in, in the nick of time. LOL :-)


.
.

Mick Manning
Bad Poetry Blues (badpoet.synchro.net:2300) gopher://centralontarioremote.com:70
--- SBBSecho 3.14-Win32
* Origin: Bad Poetry Blues = badpoet.synchro.net (21:1/159)

2023-01-12
Added Node 1/177 Goosenet BBS (GER) welcome back to sysop Michael Geller
aka Goose who is based in Nuremberg, Germany. Goose is
running a Mystic BBS you can reach his system (just getting set up now) by heading to bbs.nifty5fty.com
ports 22 and 23 Welcome back Goose to the scene. :)

Hi Paul,

thanks. SSH Port is 2222.
Telnet:23
RLogin:513

Greetings
Goose

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Goosenet BBS (21:1/177)

On 11 Jan 2023, Mickey said the following...

Apparently I got back in, in the nick of time. LOL :-)

Mick Manning

Are people actually being removed because the BBS itself stops responding or is it due to low activity from that BBS?

|23|04Dr|16|12Claw
|16|14Sysop |12Noverdu |14BBS |04(|14Noverdu.com|04)
|10Standard Ports for SSH/Telnet Web/HTTP://|14Noverdu.com:808
|20|15fsxNet/MRC Chat/Registered Doors!/50Nodes/No Time Use! Stay On!|16|07

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Noverdu BBS (21:1/210)

Hello Goose!

On 12 Jan 2023, Avon said the following...

Added Node 1/177 Goosenet BBS (GER) welcome back to sysop Michael Geller
aka Goose who is based in Nuremberg, Germany. Goose is

Welcome back to fsxNet! =)

Best regards
Zip

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (21:1/202)

On 12 Jan 2023, Zip said the following...

Hello Goose!
Welcome back to fsxNet! =)

Best regards
Zip

Hey Zip,

thanks, after rejoining fsxnet, i feel better :)

Now its time, to get things done, around my BBS and make it unique :)

Greetings
Goose

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Goosenet BBS (21:1/177)

Hello Goose!

On 12 Jan 2023, Goose said the following...

thanks, after rejoining fsxnet, i feel better :)

Sounds good! =)

Now its time, to get things done, around my BBS and make it unique :)

Yes, that's always a good thing to strive for!

I'm still in the phase of getting everything to run correctly (and to work somewhat like RemoteAccess used to do in the 90s), but slowly getting there. Takes some time, but one step at a time... =)

Best regards
Zip

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (21:1/202)

Yes, that's always a good thing to strive for!

Yes, its not as easy for me but i think i get this done.
Reading and learning, thats what i doing at the moment. I think, a BBS must be unique, so its intressting for people who only know browser like apps.

Most of the people dont know what a modem is :) it was a special time... a adventure and all was magic :D

I'm still in the phase of getting everything to run correctly (and to
work somewhat like RemoteAccess used to do in the 90s), but slowly
getting there. Takes some time, but one

step at a time... =)

Sounds intressting for me. Keep me in mind.

Greetings
Goose

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Goosenet BBS (21:1/177)

Hello Goose!

On 12 Jan 2023, Goose said the following...

I'm still in the phase of getting everything to run correctly (and to work somewhat like RemoteAccess used to do in the 90s), but slowly

Sounds intressting for me. Keep me in mind.

Will do!

So far it has mostly been to edit prompts and to adjust the prelogin/personalscan menus, e.g. to adjust the mail scan parameters to skip messages that have already been read.

Best regards
Zip

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (21:1/202)

Hello claw,

Are people actually being removed because the BBS itself stops
responding or is it due to low activity from that BBS?

Nodes are only removed after long periods of no polling or being able to poll the node and the sysop doesn't respond.

If the nodes get interested again after a time they are welcome back.

Ttyl :-),
Al

... Shhh! Be vewwy, vewwy quiet! I'm hunting tag-wines!
--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20220504
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106.2)

On 12 Jan 2023 at 12:02p, Goose pondered and said...

thanks. SSH Port is 2222.
Telnet:23

will amend history.txt now, thanks!

Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

On 12 Jan 2023 at 07:27a, claw pondered and said...

Are people actually being removed because the BBS itself stops
responding or is it due to low activity from that BBS?

The BBS is no longer polling to collect held packets or is unreachable, when you get 45+ worth of stuff and in the case of NET 4 there we're systems 200+ days inactive, then it's time to prune.

Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

On 13 Jan 2023, Avon said the following...

The BBS is no longer polling to collect held packets or is unreachable, when you get 45+ worth of stuff and in the case of NET 4 there we're systems 200+ days inactive, then it's time to prune.

Thats good to know. I'm on here reading daily but don't always post. I was a bit worried there :D

|23|04Dr|16|12Claw
|16|14Sysop |12Noverdu |14BBS |04(|14Noverdu.com|04)
|10Standard Ports for SSH/Telnet Web/HTTP://|14Noverdu.com:808
|20|15fsxNet/MRC Chat/Registered Doors!/50Nodes/No Time Use! Stay On!|16|07

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Noverdu BBS (21:1/210)

On 13 Jan 2023 at 07:32a, claw pondered and said...

Thats good to know. I'm on here reading daily but don't always post. I was a bit worried there :D

It's all good, it's just when a HUB ends up with weeks and weeks of held files that it can't deliver and/or the BBS node is not polling to collect them, you end up drawing a line around the 45+ day mark to opt to delete the node from a HUB / nodelist and recover the HDD space.

Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

Thats good to know. I'm on here reading daily but don't always post. I was a bit worried there :D

Now I'm just wondering how many of our BBSs would be pruned if we were required to have a significant amount of messages coming out of each BBS.

I'm... imagining it would not be a large number left, since even active people tend to take a bit of a break, occasionally.

Heck, this is my first message that's responding to a _recent_ message (that wasn't sent to me directly) in _months_.

Regardless, always nice to see people posting, when they _do_ have time.

...and now I just realized that, thinking of things that are kinda active, but not compared to the number of BBSs, I'm posting this when I could be at the weekly Meatup...

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Storm BBS (21:2/108)

On 14 Jan 2023, Avon said the following...

It's all good, it's just when a HUB ends up with weeks and weeks of held files that it can't deliver and/or the BBS node is not polling to
collect them, you end up drawing a line around the 45+ day mark to opt
to delete the node from a HUB / nodelist and recover the HDD space.

I love the network so if that happens to Noverdu I'm probably dead. So When that happens some day. Have a Pint of good beer and a glass of scotch for me.

|23|04Dr|16|12Claw
|16|14Sysop |12Noverdu |14BBS |04(|14Noverdu.com|04)
|10Standard Ports for SSH/Telnet Web/HTTP://|14Noverdu.com:808
|20|15fsxNet/MRC Chat/Registered Doors!/50Nodes/No Time Use! Stay On!|16|07

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Noverdu BBS (21:1/210)

On 13 Jan 2023, Adept said the following...

...and now I just realized that, thinking of things that are kinda
active, but not compared to the number of BBSs, I'm posting this when I could be at the weekly Meatup...

I've never seen you at the meet up, and I try to be there every week if I can. I tend to also be working so I miss a lot but throw in what I can. Being the Pillar of the community you are it would be like having a celebrity show up.

|23|04Dr|16|12Claw
|16|14Sysop |12Noverdu |14BBS |04(|14Noverdu.com|04)
|10Standard Ports for SSH/Telnet Web/HTTP://|14Noverdu.com:808
|20|15fsxNet/MRC Chat/Registered Doors!/50Nodes/No Time Use! Stay On!|16|07

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Noverdu BBS (21:1/210)

I've never seen you at the meet up, and I try to be there every week if
I can. I tend to also be working so I miss a lot but throw in what I
can. Being the Pillar of the community you are it would be like having a celebrity show up.

And then we saw each other at the Meatup!

And I hardly feel like I'm an FSXnet celebrity, especially given that Paulie420 is oftentimes there, and Hyjinx, too. Along with Meatlotion, of course. But it's a nice crowd, when I do happen to have time. I hope others get a chance to check it out.

8p UTC on Fridays, if people weren't already aware. It tends to run 3 or 4 hours, though, so showing up late still works.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Storm BBS (21:2/108)

I don't get any new messages on my own BBS, but I check the fsxNet messages almost daily. All I get on my BBS is bots and losers trying to log on as "system" or "root." About 100% of my traffic is people who are trying to crash my board.

... They say there's always one weirdo on the bus, but I couldn't find them!

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/25 (Windows/64)
* Origin: The Unmarked Van (21:1/130)

I don't get any new messages on my own BBS, but I check the fsxNet messages almost daily. All I get on my BBS is bots and losers trying to log on as "system" or "root." About 100% of my traffic is people who are trying to crash my board.

I think that's probably true for almost all of us -- at the very least anyone running on port 23.

Since these bots are looking for servers to exploit, and don't at all care about BBSs. I'm wondering what level of bot makers even _think_ about BBS servers. Talk about a niche market, and a niche market where, "Yeah, the computer should probably be _at least_ as powerful as a low-end-ish computer from 25 years ago." is a reasonable level of power.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Storm BBS (21:2/108)

Since these bots are looking for servers to exploit, and don't at all
care about BBSs. I'm wondering what level of bot makers even _think_
about BBS servers. Talk about a niche market, and a niche market where,

I wrote a "poor man's honeypot" in some Python awhile back which simulated a Login and Password prompt.

If the intruder entered "root" as the user, I gave them a # prompt, and then I gave anything else a $ prompt. As far as I can tell, all of these bum connections were scripts, not human beings manually entering data.

The effect, obviously, is to give the script the impression they'd made it in and were sitting at a shell prompt.

These scripts then used busybox - busybox is central to nearly all of these port 23 attacks - to issue a few commands, and then download and run scripts from remote locations. In other cases - most of them, actually, it appeared to count on an already-compromised busybox executable to do what it wanted. I don't know why there was an expectation of a compromised busybox there, but I suspect some cheap SOHO routers, or possibly security cameras, got out with a compromised busybox. These scripts were written to exploit these compromised devices. There were multiple IPs over broad time periods using the same credentials.

Of course, since it was just a Python script, it logged whatever the script "typed" and didn't run anything.

Those Port 23 attackers are:

* Automated scripts which appear to be looking for anything with Port 23 open, possibly by doing wide-range IP portscans

* Specifically looking to run busybox, in almost all cases

* Annoying but ultimately impotent

From the period between December 2 and January 1, the counts of unique IPs for "ports no one should be ever connecting to" on my home Internet connection (i.e., not where I ran this honeypot) are:

Telnet [23] - 13258 unique IPs (!)
ssh [22] - 3461 unique IPs
http [80] - 2747 unique IPs

These are the top (most frequently hit) ports; telnet is routinely hit (or scanned) more than any other. I would note that I do not run my BBS on my home connection, nor have I ever run anything with ingress on port 23. My firewall is configured to DROP every kind of new connection; there are no ports responding with OPEN, CLOSED, or FILTERED. The takeaway here is there is no reason (other than being in the known IP range of a large ISP) anyone should be hitting these ports. If you run a server on port 23 (like a BBS), the only thing that could possibly do is amplify the number of hits, especially if someone is downloading a report from, say, shodan.io on port 23 and is feeding that into their scripts.

These are a few of the credential pairs my "poor man's honeypot" detected on port 23. These are presumably the credentials of known backdoored systems. I expect exactly zero of these should work on any BBS. And since these scripts are almost always looking for a shell prompt, should someone create an account on your system with these pairs, the script would fail. It would either never execute (no $ or # prompt), or the badly written ones would try to run their payload at the first "press key to continue" prompt. There are a lot of bad scripts. Scripts that are stymied by an unexpected prompt (e.g., ! rather than # or $). Most scripts do not try to detect if busybox is even installed. I forget how, but I even trapped one in a kind of quicksand; it kept retrying its payload over and over again.

root password
root 123456
root jvbzd
root ROOT500
root aquario
root qazxsw
admin pass
Admin 5up
admin 12345
root ttnet
root anko
root admin
root gpon
admin admin
root 1234
root founder88
,|J=y=1j`cnws[k?/+ /5�
admin admin1234
root juantech
guest 12345
root 123123
root ttnet
root admin
root 12345
root ivdev
root xc3511
admin admin1234
root dreambox
root alpine
root root
admin 1111111
root pon521
Admin 5up
service service
root xmhdipc
root 54321
ubnt ubnt
admin meinsm
service service
default antslq
root xmhdipc
admin smc

Port 23 is a cesspool of a port. That so many hits occur on that port suggest a lot of garbage hardware is still connectable there.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Shipwrecks & Shibboleths [San Francisco, CA - USA] (21:1/227)

Re: Re: Housekeeping
By: DustCouncil to Adept on Sat Jan 21 2023 19:39:08

Since these bots are looking for servers to exploit, and don't at all care about BBSs. I'm wondering what level of bot makers even _think_ about BBS servers. Talk about a niche market, and a niche market where,

Thanks for this. Very interesting. I'd like to do the same thing with SMTP 25


.

Mick Manning
Bad Poetry Blues (badpoet.synchro.net:2300) gopher://centralontarioremote.com:70
--- SBBSecho 3.14-Win32
* Origin: Bad Poetry Blues = badpoet.synchro.net:2300 (21:1/159)

I wrote a "poor man's honeypot" in some Python awhile back which
simulated a Login and Password prompt.

That was a fascinating read.

In the end, I've left my BBS on port 23 because that's the standard telnet port, and Mystic getting hit by a non-DDOS-level of attacks looking for something else just hasn't mattered to me to try and go for security-by-obscurity.

(Not that I'm actually dismissing security-by-obscurity. It generally means fewer attacks, even if your security isn't good. And, even if it's not about security, it _does_ mean getting fewer terrible connection attempts.)

Regardless, not that my decision is forever set in stone, and, regardless, that was a neat post to read. Thanks for summarizing the work.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Storm BBS (21:2/108)

On 21 Jan 2023, Adept said the following...

I don't get any new messages on my own BBS, but I check the fsxNet messages almost daily. All I get on my BBS is bots and losers trying log on as "system" or "root." About 100% of my traffic is people who trying to crash my board.

I think that's probably true for almost all of us -- at the very least anyone running on port 23.

Since these bots are looking for servers to exploit, and don't at all
care about BBSs. I'm wondering what level of bot makers even _think_
about BBS servers. Talk about a niche market, and a niche market where, "Yeah, the computer should probably be _at least_ as powerful as a low-end-ish computer from 25 years ago." is a reasonable level of power.

PFSense and setup PFBlockerNG and you will see that drop off dramatically! It has an automated black list of IPS that is well maintained that will clean up that Mess. We have more sysops than users. I'm My boards Most active user by far. I do have a few that pop in and say hi and check mails and so one every few days. It always brings a smile to my face when I see Paulie was on. He always make a neat little message waiting for me at the Blerbs Sections of the board.

Make your board what you like as you will be its most active user.

|23|04Dr|16|12Claw
|16|14Sysop |12Noverdu |14BBS |04(|14Noverdu.com|04)
|10Standard Ports for SSH/Telnet Web/HTTP://|14Noverdu.com:808
|20|15fsxNet/MRC Chat/Registered Doors!/50Nodes/No Time Use! Stay On!|16|07

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Noverdu BBS (21:1/210)

Make your board what you like as you will be its most active user.

I do think that's what most of us have ended up doing. Our BBS is our gateway to the BBSing world. Additional users are just added flavor.

I find it interesting, too, that I login to my BBS most days, and do something like, "Oh, huh, today is Peanut Butter day. And that was _not_ my best ANSI.".

And sometimes someone says, "Today is (x) day!", and I immediately want to login to my BBS to see if I chose that day and have an ANSI for it.

But I mostly use my BBS to check out FSXnet messages. And even _that_ I tend to be far behind on (e.g., I know there are other message bases than general, but I'm so far behind on them that I'd have to actively check them / skip all the messages, etc., and generally I'm just checking in for a few minutes.)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Storm BBS (21:2/108)

How do you change the incoming port for your BBS from 23 to something else? I would be interested in doing that.

... Shortcut: longest distance between two points

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/25 (Windows/64)
* Origin: The Unmarked Van (21:1/130)

Make your board what you like as you will be its most active user.

Man, that is the truth!

... The dog ate my .REP packet

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/25 (Windows/64)
* Origin: The Unmarked Van (21:1/130)

How do you change the incoming port for your BBS from 23 to something else? I would be interested in doing that.

Usually just change the open port on your router and forward it to port23 on the BBS system..

ST

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Storm BBS (21:2/108)

Hello Alonzo,

How do you change the incoming port for your BBS from 23 to something else? I would be interested in doing that.

Go into Servers -> Configure Servers -> Terminal (TELNET), and then set the port to the desired port to use.

Ttyl :-),
Al

... Landru! Guide us!
--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20220504
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106.2)

How do you change the incoming port for your BBS from 23 to something else? I would be interested in doing that.

Go into Servers -> Configure Servers -> Terminal (TELNET), and then set the port to the desired port to use.

OK, thanks.

... If you can't make it good, make it LOOK good. -Bill Gates.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/25 (Windows/64)
* Origin: The Unmarked Van (21:1/130)

Hi all

From HISTORY.TXT

[snip]

2022-01-04
Removed Node 3/145 Darkest Hour BBS (USA) has been delisted. The node has
not collected held packets/files for some time nor has there
been any contact made with/by the sysop.

Added Node 4/175 Mystic Hobbies BBS (USA) Mike Dippel has spun up a new BBS
which can be reached at mystic-hobbies.us The BBS runs Mystic
under Windows 10.

2022-01-01 Happy New Year! Wishing everyone a less bumpy year than we
have all had during 2021. Thank you for continuing to use /
support fsxNet with your involvement in this network :)

[snip]

Best, Paul

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/11/06 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

On 04 Jan 2022, Avon said the following...

Added Node 4/175 Mystic Hobbies BBS (USA) Mike Dippel has spun up a new BBS which can be reached at mystic-hobbies.us The BBS runs Mystic under Windows 10.

Welcome, Mike! Nice to have you here!

2022-01-01 Happy New Year! Wishing everyone a less bumpy year than we have all had during 2021. Thank you for continuing
to use / support fsxNet with your involvement in this network :)

Happy new Year, and thanks for your continued work to make this a place for everyone to enjoy!

Best regards
Zip

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (21:1/202)

Hi all

From HISTORY.TXT there's a few updates to share:

[snip]

2022-01-08
Added Node 1/192 Zruspa's BBS (ESP) hailing from Madrid, Spain please welcome
sysop Angel Ripoll who is running a Synchronet BBS. You can
reach the system at bbs.zruspas.org via port 23 or use port
2221 for SSH connections.

Added Node 1/191 Zruspa's HUB (ESP) this is a HUB run by Angel. All fsxNet
and Fidonet traffic is routed via this node. The node only
accepts BinkP traffic.

2022-01-07
Removed Node 1/236 Classic BBS (USA) Mike advises he has shutdown his BBS. The
node has been delisted.

Added Node 3/159 The Basement BBS (CAN) based in Kamloops it's a warm welcome
back to sysop Adam Clark who returns running a Synchronet
BBS. He can be reached at basement.isurf.ca or via SSH at
basement.isurf.ca:8825

Removed Node 1/211 The Pub BBS has closed down and has been delisted.

Updated Node 1/226 Retro16 BBS (AUS) has updated its domain name to
bbs.retro16.com while retro16.fsxnet.nz also works too :)

2022-01-06
Removed Node 1/191 The Ruins BBS (USA). Doug's system has been down for some
time. There's no indication at this stage he is returning.
The node has been delisted.

Removed Node 1/165 The Underground BBS (USA) ditto for this node it has also
been delisted at this time.

[snip]

There will likely be more NET 1 nodelist tidy ups occurring in the coming days as I look to tidy things up a bit with a few inactive nodes that either need relinking or pruning. As such I won't push out an early nodelist until the usual hatching time of early Friday morning next week New Zealand time.

Best, Paul

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/11/06 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

Removed Node 1/236 Classic BBS (USA) Mike advises he has shutdown his
BBS. The node has been delisted.

Removed Node 1/211 The Pub BBS has closed down and has been delisted.

Removed Node 1/191 The Ruins BBS (USA). Doug's system has been down for some time. There's no indication at this stage he is returning.

Removed Node 1/165 The Underground BBS (USA) ditto for this node it has also been delisted at this time.

It's never goodbye: just au revoir.
(Yep, the spellchecker is just as confused as me on that little gem).

Added Node 1/192 Zruspa's BBS (ESP) hailing from Madrid, Spain please welcome sysop Angel Ripoll who is running a Synchronet BBS. You can
reach the system at bbs.zruspas.org via port 23 or use port 2221 for SSH connections.

Added Node 1/191 Zruspa's HUB (ESP) this is a HUB run by Angel. All
fsxNet and Fidonet traffic is routed via this node. The node only
accepts BinkP traffic.

Added Node 3/159 The Basement BBS (CAN) based in Kamloops it's a warm welcome back to sysop Adam Clark who returns running a Synchronet
BBS. He can be reached at basement.isurf.ca or via SSH
at basement.isurf.ca:8825

Updated Node 1/226 Retro16 BBS (AUS) has updated its domain name to
bbs.retro16.com while retro16.fsxnet.nz also works too

For every winter there follows a spring. Howdy shipmates.

o-----------o------------o-------------------------o
TALIADON | 2:250/6 | 21:3/138 | TALIADON-BBS@MAIL.COM | o-----------o-----------o------------o-------------------------o
| "Error is a great teacher, and humility its hardest lesson." | o--------------------------------------------------------------o

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Windows/32)
* Origin: TALIADON BBS (21:3/138)

On 08 Jan 2022, Avon said the following...

2022-01-08
Added Node 1/192 Zruspa's BBS (ESP) hailing from Madrid, Spain please welcome sysop Angel Ripoll who is running a Synchronet

Added Node 1/191 Zruspa's HUB (ESP) this is a HUB run by Angel. All
fsxNet and Fidonet traffic is routed via this node. The

Added Node 3/159 The Basement BBS (CAN) based in Kamloops it's a warm welcome back to sysop Adam Clark who returns running a Synchronet BBS. He can be reached at basement.isurf.ca

Welcome, Angel, and welcome back, Adam!

Best regards
Zip (in a snowy and wintery Sweden)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (21:1/202)

Welcome, Angel, and welcome back, Adam!

Thanks again!
--- SBBSecho 3.14-Linux
* Origin: The Basement - basement.isurf.ca (21:3/159)

Hi All,

From history.txt

[snip]

2021-05-14
Removed Node 1/136 force9 BBS (GBR) has not polled for packets in 80+ days
the system has been delisted.
[snip]

Hopefully Dave may be back but my attempts to contact him have gone unanswered.

Best, Paul.

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: Agency + Risa HUB - Dunedin, New Zealand (21:1/100)

Are you back on the Wiki, Paul?

$ The Millionaire $
--- SBBSecho 3.14-Linux
* Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (21:1/183)

On 08 Jan 2022 at 11:29a, The Millionaire pondered and said...

2021-05-14
Removed Node 1/136 force9 BBS (GBR) has not polled for packets in 80+ da
the system has been delisted.

Are you back on the Wiki, Paul?

Golly that's an old message you quoted :)

No, not as yet. It seems YouTube may be calling first.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/11/06 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

No, not as yet. It seems YouTube may be calling first.

YES! \(^_^)/

McDoob
SysOp, PiBBS
pibbs.sytes.net

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: PiBBS (21:4/135)

On 08 Jan 2022 at 11:29a, The Millionaire pondered and said...

Golly that's an old message you quoted :)

No, not as yet. It seems YouTube may be calling first.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/11/06 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

Good. Would like to see Mystic Guy return. :-)

$ The Millionaire $
--- SBBSecho 3.14-Linux
* Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (21:1/183)

Hi all

From HISTORY.TXT

[snip]

2022-01-13
Added Node 1/136 The Oracle BBS (USA) please welcome sysop Alex Sardo who
joins us from Pittsburgh. He's running a Mystic BBS under
Linux and the BBS can be reached at theoraclebbs.com
Welcome to the community Alex :)

Removed Node 1/128 Odyssey BBS (USA) has been delisted due to inactivity and
no contact from sysop.

Removed Node 1/135 Return to the lair of the Wolverine BBS (USA) has been
delisted due to inactivity and no contact from sysop.

Removed Node 1/238 The Dark Abyss (USA). Deslisted due to inactivity and no
sysop contact.

2022-01-11
Removed Node 1/235 Fratm's BBS (USA) has closed its doors. The node has been
delisted.

2022-01-09
Removed Node 1/167 Nitemare Cafe BBS (USA) Rod advises his system has closed
for now, the node has been delisted. He may return when he
has time to enjoy the hobby again :)

[snip]

An updated nodelist etc. will be hatched in the coming 24 hours.

Best, Paul

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/11/06 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

On 13 Jan 2022, Avon said the following...

Added Node 1/136 The Oracle BBS (USA) please welcome sysop Alex Sardo who
joins us from Pittsburgh.

Welcome Alex! :)


Jay

... A man does not look behind the door unless he has stood there himself.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: Northern Realms (21:3/110)

On 13 Jan 2022, Avon said the following...

Added Node 1/136 The Oracle BBS (USA) please welcome sysop Alex Sardo who
joins us from Pittsburgh. He's running a Mystic BBS
under Linux and the BBS can be reached at theoraclebbs.com Welcome to the community Alex :)

Welcome to fsxNet, Alex! Nice to have you here!

Best regards
Zip

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/01/11 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (21:1/202)

Re: Re: Housekeeping
By: Zip to Alex Sardo on Thu Jan 13 2022 03:18 pm

Welcome to fsxNet, Alex! Nice to have you here!

Thank you, had to do some major reinstall, move to another ISP etc etc - you know fun stuff :s

In any case I'm back online thanks to lots of people's help setting up fsxNet so I look forward to contribute to the community with some cool toys :)

F3
--- SBBSecho 3.14-Linux
* Origin: The Oracle BBS - theoraclebbs.com (21:1/136)

Hello Fr333n3rgy!

On 18 Jan 2022, Fr333n3rgy said the following...

Thank you, had to do some major reinstall, move to another ISP etc etc - you know fun stuff :s

Oh yes... :-D

In any case I'm back online thanks to lots of people's help setting up fsxNet so I look forward to contribute to the community with some cool toys :)

Sounds great! =)

Best regards
Zip

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/01/11 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (21:1/202)

Hi all

From HISTORY.TXT

[snip]

2022-01-22
Removed Node 3/132 Herp Derp BBS (ZAF) Andrew advises his hardware has died
and he has elected to shutdown his BBS for now. We hope to
catch him as a user of other BBS still :)

Added Node 1/162 Cheshire Underground (USA) please welcome sysop Jonathan
Martin who is based in Cheshire, CT, Jon is running a
Mystic BBS under Linux. He was co-sysop of one of the first
100 Fidonets back in the 80s. You can find it the system at
bbs.cheshirezine.com and use port 6522 for SSH.
Welcome back to the BBS scene Jonathan :)

Added Node 3/160 Online World BBS (USA) say Hi to sysop Jason Garneau aka
SixtyFour who hails from Swanton, VT. Jason has spun up a
Mystic BBS running on a Raspberry Pi. You can reach his
system at bbs.onlineworld.ninja - welcome to fsxNet
Jason :)

[snip]

Apologies I'm a day or two late getting this posted.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/11/06 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

Added Node 1/162 Cheshire Underground (USA) please welcome sysop Jonathan
Martin who is based in Cheshire, CT, Jon is running a
Mystic BBS under Linux. He was co-sysop of one of the first 100 Fidonets back in the 80s. You can find it
the system at bbs.cheshirezine.com and use port 6522
for SSH. Welcome back to the BBS scene Jonathan :)

It's like I never left :)

For what it's worth I'm building the BBS for our small New England town, with the hopes of generating local interest in BBSs for both the nostolgic oldies and the curious newbies.

Wish me luck!

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Cheshire Underground (21:1/162)