Hello tonic!

** On Sunday 11.04.21 - 16:21, tonic wrote to All:

I'm having a hard time finding a GUI based news-reader thats
not "binary-centric", meaning specialized for finding files
on Usenet, instead of reading news.

Isn't what you make it? Meaning.. if you avoid the binary areas
then it will NOT be "binary-centric"! :D

Does anyone have a good reccomendation for windows & linux?
I'm not interested in trying Thunderbird, or any other
client that has NNTP as an addon for a mail client, and
would like something standalone.

I have this one installed when I feel like having a little
variety from the usual Thunderbird that I use:

https://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/en/

It does a pretty good job in the quoting department and uses the
sender's initials.

BTW, the one in Thunderbird is built-in, and not an addon AFAIK.


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Re: NNTP / Newsreader Reccomendations
By: tonic to All on Sun Apr 11 2021 04:21 pm

Does anyone have a good reccomendation for windows & linux? I'm not interested in trying Thunderbird, or any other client that has NNTP as an addon for a mail client, and would like something standalone.

I usually use tin if I read with a news server. Tin is a console app but I suppose it would run fine from the desktop also. I also use pan at times. Pan is a GUI app and works quite well in my experience.

I use both of those on linux but I'm not sure if those apps are available on windows or not.. probably.. they are both open source.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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tonic wrote to All <=-

I've been seeing more and more communites on the web going back
to offering some sort of NNTP / Newsserver - heck, even my own
BBS has the ability to enable one - and it seems like a very
interesting protocol, but I'm having a hard time finding a GUI
based news-reader thats not "binary-centric", meaning specialized
for finding files on Usenet, instead of reading news.

Does anyone have a good reccomendation for windows & linux? I'm
not interested in trying Thunderbird, or any other client that
has NNTP as an addon for a mail client, and would like something standalone.

I recommend the 'Pan' newsreader. Definitely for Linux and I think it
may be available for Windows also.


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Al wrote:

Re: NNTP / Newsreader Reccomendations
By: tonic to All on Sun Apr 11 2021 04:21 pm

Does anyone have a good reccomendation for windows & linux? I'm not interested in trying Thunderbird, or any other client that has NNTP as an
addon for a mail client, and would like something standalone.

I usually use tin if I read with a news server. Tin is a console app but I suppose it would run fine from the desktop also. I also use pan at times. Pan is a GUI app and works quite well in my experience.

I also use tin but it won't display ansi. At least I've not managed to get it to.

I use both of those on linux but I'm not sure if those apps are available on windows or not.. probably.. they are both open source.

Pan is available for both.
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Re: NNTP / Newsreader Reccomendations
By: tonic to All on Sun Apr 11 2021 04:21 pm

Hi fsxnet,

I've been seeing more and more communites on the web going back to offering some sort of NNTP / Newsserver - heck, even my own BBS has the ability to enable one - and it seems like a very interesting protocol, but I'm having a hard time finding a GUI based news-reader thats not "binary-centric", meanin specialized for finding files on Usenet, instead of reading news.

Does anyone have a good reccomendation for windows & linux? I'm not interest in trying Thunderbird, or any other client that has NNTP as an addon for a m client, and would like something standalone.

Thanks,
tonic

For Linux and OpenBSD, rtin works fine. It gets some time to get used to it, but if you are doing BBS is not a shock. Pan works fine too, and it is graphical.

No idea about Windows.

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On 11 Apr 2021, Ogg said the following...

BTW, the one in Thunderbird is built-in, and not an addon AFAIK.

and really quite nice imo. to be honest, news readers and email clients have been so intertwined from the beginning.. it's kind of strange not to think of them as one and the same. different protocols getting you messages in essentially the same format, whether they're private or not.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/04/08 (Windows/32)
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Hi fsxnet,

I've been seeing more and more communites on the web going back to offering some sort of NNTP / Newsserver - heck, even my own BBS has the ability to enable one - and it seems like a very interesting protocol, but I'm having a hard time finding a GUI based news-reader thats not "binary-centric", meaning specialized for finding files on Usenet, instead of reading news.

Does anyone have a good reccomendation for windows & linux? I'm not interested in trying Thunderbird, or any other client that has NNTP as an addon for a mail client, and would like something standalone.

Thanks,
tonic

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On 04-11-21 16:21, tonic wrote to All <=-

Hi fsxnet,

I've been seeing more and more communites on the web going back to offering some sort of NNTP / Newsserver - heck, even my own BBS has the

This sounds like a trend I could get into. I used to enjoy Usenet back in the day, and newsgroups are a good way to read messages. Certainly beats those awful web interfaces. :)

While I'm not keen on NNTP for BBSing (because of last pointer issues when using multiple clients), I see a lot of potential for specific situations, or even for feeding a BBS. :)


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On 04-11-21 16:26, Al wrote to tonic <=-

I usually use tin if I read with a news server. Tin is a console app
but I suppose it would run fine from the desktop also. I also use pan
at times. Pan is a GUI app and works quite well in my experience.

I often turned to tin, always liked it. Will have to check out Pan sometime. I have found Thunderbird's newsreader not bad too.


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I often turned to tin, always liked it. Will have to check out Pan sometime. I have found Thunderbird's newsreader not bad too.

I haven't played around much with readers, I stick to slrn, it has good killfile logic. Which is a problem I have with Thunderbird, Usenet is a swap without a quick and simple killfile. Don't get me wrong Thunderbird does have one just a pain to edit :)

RenMas

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tonic wrote (2021-04-11):

Hi fsxnet,

I've been seeing more and more communites on the web going back to
offering some sort of NNTP / Newsserver - heck, even my own BBS has the ability to enable one - and it seems like a very interesting protocol,
but I'm having a hard time finding a GUI based news-reader thats not "binary-centric", meaning specialized for finding files on Usenet,
instead of reading news.

Does anyone have a good reccomendation for windows & linux? I'm not interested in trying Thunderbird, or any other client that has NNTP as an addon for a mail client, and would like something standalone.

Claws Mail. It is also a mail client, but you don't have to use the mail part.

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On 04-14-21 07:54, Renagademaster wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I often turned to tin, always liked it. Will have to check out Pan sometime. I have found Thunderbird's newsreader not bad too.

I haven't played around much with readers, I stick to slrn, it has good killfile logic. Which is a problem I have with Thunderbird, Usenet is a swap without a quick and simple killfile. Don't get me wrong
Thunderbird does have one just a pain to edit :)

Good point, an easy to use killfile is a must these days. :)


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Hello tonic!

** On Sunday 11.04.21 - 16:21, tonic wrote to All:

I'm having a hard time finding a GUI based news-reader thats
not "binary-centric", meaning specialized for finding files
on Usenet, instead of reading news.

Isn't what you make it? Meaning.. if you avoid the binary areas
then it will NOT be "binary-centric"! :D

Does anyone have a good reccomendation for windows & linux?
I'm not interested in trying Thunderbird, or any other
client that has NNTP as an addon for a mail client, and
would like something standalone.

I have this one installed when I feel like having a little
variety from the usual Thunderbird that I use:

https://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/en/

It does a pretty good job in the quoting department and uses the
sender's initials.

BTW, the one in Thunderbird is built-in, and not an addon AFAIK.


--- OpenXP 5.0.49
* Origin: (} Pointy McPointFace (21:4/106.21)

Re: NNTP / Newsreader Reccomendations
By: tonic to All on Sun Apr 11 2021 04:21 pm

Does anyone have a good reccomendation for windows & linux? I'm not interested in trying Thunderbird, or any other client that has NNTP as an addon for a mail client, and would like something standalone.

I usually use tin if I read with a news server. Tin is a console app but I suppose it would run fine from the desktop also. I also use pan at times. Pan is a GUI app and works quite well in my experience.

I use both of those on linux but I'm not sure if those apps are available on windows or not.. probably.. they are both open source.

Ttyl :-),
Al

... Experience is what you get when you were expecting something else
--- SBBSecho 3.14-Linux
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106.1)

tonic wrote to All <=-

I've been seeing more and more communites on the web going back
to offering some sort of NNTP / Newsserver - heck, even my own
BBS has the ability to enable one - and it seems like a very
interesting protocol, but I'm having a hard time finding a GUI
based news-reader thats not "binary-centric", meaning specialized
for finding files on Usenet, instead of reading news.

Does anyone have a good reccomendation for windows & linux? I'm
not interested in trying Thunderbird, or any other client that
has NNTP as an addon for a mail client, and would like something standalone.

I recommend the 'Pan' newsreader. Definitely for Linux and I think it
may be available for Windows also.


... So easy, a child could do it. Child sold separately.
=== MultiMail/Linux v0.52
--- SBBSecho 3.14-Linux
* Origin: Palantir * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL * (21:2/138)

Al wrote:

Re: NNTP / Newsreader Reccomendations
By: tonic to All on Sun Apr 11 2021 04:21 pm

Does anyone have a good reccomendation for windows & linux? I'm not interested in trying Thunderbird, or any other client that has NNTP as an
addon for a mail client, and would like something standalone.

I usually use tin if I read with a news server. Tin is a console app but I suppose it would run fine from the desktop also. I also use pan at times. Pan is a GUI app and works quite well in my experience.

I also use tin but it won't display ansi. At least I've not managed to get it to.

I use both of those on linux but I'm not sure if those apps are available on windows or not.. probably.. they are both open source.

Pan is available for both.
--- SBBSecho 3.14-Linux
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Re: NNTP / Newsreader Reccomendations
By: tonic to All on Sun Apr 11 2021 04:21 pm

Hi fsxnet,

I've been seeing more and more communites on the web going back to offering some sort of NNTP / Newsserver - heck, even my own BBS has the ability to enable one - and it seems like a very interesting protocol, but I'm having a hard time finding a GUI based news-reader thats not "binary-centric", meanin specialized for finding files on Usenet, instead of reading news.

Does anyone have a good reccomendation for windows & linux? I'm not interest in trying Thunderbird, or any other client that has NNTP as an addon for a m client, and would like something standalone.

Thanks,
tonic

For Linux and OpenBSD, rtin works fine. It gets some time to get used to it, but if you are doing BBS is not a shock. Pan works fine too, and it is graphical.

No idea about Windows.

--
gopher://gopher.richardfalken.com/1/richardfalken
--- SBBSecho 3.14-Linux
* Origin: Palantir * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL * (21:2/138)

On 11 Apr 2021, Ogg said the following...

BTW, the one in Thunderbird is built-in, and not an addon AFAIK.

and really quite nice imo. to be honest, news readers and email clients have been so intertwined from the beginning.. it's kind of strange not to think of them as one and the same. different protocols getting you messages in essentially the same format, whether they're private or not.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/04/08 (Windows/32)
* Origin: cold fusion - cfbbs.net - grand rapids, mi (21:1/616)

Hi fsxnet,

I've been seeing more and more communites on the web going back to offering some sort of NNTP / Newsserver - heck, even my own BBS has the ability to enable one - and it seems like a very interesting protocol, but I'm having a hard time finding a GUI based news-reader thats not "binary-centric", meaning specialized for finding files on Usenet, instead of reading news.

Does anyone have a good reccomendation for windows & linux? I'm not interested in trying Thunderbird, or any other client that has NNTP as an addon for a mail client, and would like something standalone.

Thanks,
tonic

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On 04-11-21 16:21, tonic wrote to All <=-

Hi fsxnet,

I've been seeing more and more communites on the web going back to offering some sort of NNTP / Newsserver - heck, even my own BBS has the

This sounds like a trend I could get into. I used to enjoy Usenet back in the day, and newsgroups are a good way to read messages. Certainly beats those awful web interfaces. :)

While I'm not keen on NNTP for BBSing (because of last pointer issues when using multiple clients), I see a lot of potential for specific situations, or even for feeding a BBS. :)


... Nature sides with the hidden flaw.
=== MultiMail/Win v0.52
--- SBBSecho 3.10-Linux
* Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (21:1/109)

On 04-11-21 16:26, Al wrote to tonic <=-

I usually use tin if I read with a news server. Tin is a console app
but I suppose it would run fine from the desktop also. I also use pan
at times. Pan is a GUI app and works quite well in my experience.

I often turned to tin, always liked it. Will have to check out Pan sometime. I have found Thunderbird's newsreader not bad too.


... Save fuel. Get cremated with a friend.
=== MultiMail/Win v0.52
--- SBBSecho 3.10-Linux
* Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (21:1/109)

I often turned to tin, always liked it. Will have to check out Pan sometime. I have found Thunderbird's newsreader not bad too.

I haven't played around much with readers, I stick to slrn, it has good killfile logic. Which is a problem I have with Thunderbird, Usenet is a swap without a quick and simple killfile. Don't get me wrong Thunderbird does have one just a pain to edit :)

RenMas

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Linux/64)
* Origin: The Bottomless Abyss BBS * bbs.bottomlessabyss.net (21:1/172)

tonic wrote (2021-04-11):

Hi fsxnet,

I've been seeing more and more communites on the web going back to
offering some sort of NNTP / Newsserver - heck, even my own BBS has the ability to enable one - and it seems like a very interesting protocol,
but I'm having a hard time finding a GUI based news-reader thats not "binary-centric", meaning specialized for finding files on Usenet,
instead of reading news.

Does anyone have a good reccomendation for windows & linux? I'm not interested in trying Thunderbird, or any other client that has NNTP as an addon for a mail client, and would like something standalone.

Claws Mail. It is also a mail client, but you don't have to use the mail part.

---
* Origin: . (21:3/102)

On 04-14-21 07:54, Renagademaster wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I often turned to tin, always liked it. Will have to check out Pan sometime. I have found Thunderbird's newsreader not bad too.

I haven't played around much with readers, I stick to slrn, it has good killfile logic. Which is a problem I have with Thunderbird, Usenet is a swap without a quick and simple killfile. Don't get me wrong
Thunderbird does have one just a pain to edit :)

Good point, an easy to use killfile is a must these days. :)


... How do they get Teflon to stick to the pan??
=== MultiMail/Win v0.52
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