Zip wrote (2021-08-13):

calls on the same phone number (with ISDN). Nowadays I wonder why we
do have phone numbers at all. It's SIP anyway.

Yep... And many ISPs here refuse to provide the SIP details, should one want to replace their routers with other equipment... :-/

Fortunately in the EU we have the right to use other equipment. So providers should be forced by law to give you the connection and SIP details. AFAIK this doesn't mean you can directly use your SIP account from another location, but running Asterisk or another SIP router is possible.

Just ask your provider for the details, maybe they changed their policy recently.

Btw, what happened in the US regarding net neutrality after the new administration? I guess Ajit Pai is not in charge of the FCC anymore:
https://metro.co.uk/2017/12/14/fcc-chairman-drinks-ridiculously-oversized-mug-ends-net-neutrality-7161066/

(Let's not start a political discussion. More interested in the technical / practical side.)

But back to my original question. As users we could start to use federated SIP and call user@example.com
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federated_VoIP

Instead we love to give providers full control.


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Hello Oli!

Thank you for your reply!

On 14 Aug 2021, Oli said the following...

Fortunately in the EU we have the right to use other equipment. So providers should be forced by law to give you the connection and SIP details. AFAIK this doesn't mean you can directly use your SIP account from another location, but running Asterisk or another SIP router is possible.

Thanks, I'll have to check with them!

Best regards
Zip

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Hello Oli;

Oli wrote to Zip <=-

Fortunately in the EU we have the right to use other equipment. So providers should be forced by law to give you the connection and SIP details. AFAIK this doesn't mean you can directly use your SIP account from another location, but running Asterisk or another SIP router is possible.

Here in the states, I run an Asterisk server with many custom modules in it.
I have a provider that grants me a SIP trunk with 2 lines on it and I have
free international unlimited dialing to something like 74 countries. Comes in handy for talking to my friends in the U.K. and Czech Republic.

Just ask your provider for the details, maybe they changed their policy recently.

With monitoring the logs in extreme detail logging, I can pretty much figure out what they're running at their end. If I were to use just a SIP phone
or software like Zoiper it may be more difficult. I'd prefer they use AIX
on TCP but my jitter is quite low so it's not much of an issue.

Btw, what happened in the US regarding net neutrality after the new administration? I guess Ajit Pai is not in charge of the FCC anymore: https://metro.co.uk/2017/12/14/fcc-chairman-drinks-ridiculously-oversize d-mug-ends-net-neutrality-7161066/

(Let's not start a political discussion. More interested in the
technical / practical side.)

Pai did resign at the change of our elections.

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N1uro wrote to Oli <=-

Here in the states, I run an Asterisk server with many custom modules
in it. I have a provider that grants me a SIP trunk with 2 lines on it
and I have free international unlimited dialing to something like 74 countries. Comes in handy for talking to my friends in the U.K. and
Czech Republic.

Who's your provider? I'm tempted to set up Asterisk now that I have a
homelab running. Saw some interesting SIP phones at my local electronics
junk store - Grandstream GXP 1405s.




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On 14 Aug 2021, poindexter FORTRAN said the following...

Who's your provider? I'm tempted to set up Asterisk now that I have a homelab running. Saw some interesting SIP phones at my local electronics junk store - Grandstream GXP 1405s.

I use voip.ms, use my link for a free $10 credit if you'd like to try them out:

https://voip.ms/en/invite/MTI0NDc1

They have phone numbers (DIDs) from many countries and a lot of their US and Canadian numbers also support SMS & MMS. I have a couple of DIDs and pay $0.85 /mo each for the numbers and less than 1 cent per minute for any usage.

I've used them with an Asterisk server, but currently I just have a Cisco ATA connected up via SIP and then plugged in my cordless phone to that.


Jay

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Who's your provider? I'm tempted to set up Asterisk now that I have a homelab running. Saw some interesting SIP phones at my local electronics junk store - Grandstream GXP 1405s.

I'll throw a recommendation out for Flowroute. I used them extensively in my voice lab at Cisco.

Notables: low price point (similar to voip.ms), great web interface, solid NAT traversal, support for endpoints or SBCs that can't authenticate, and great toll fraud tools.

When you are hunting down a SIP provider, spent some time pinging their SBCs and looking at your overall delay, jitter and packet loss. (I use mtr on Linux for this)

Pat
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Hello poindexter;

poindexter FORTRAN wrote to N1uro <=-

Who's your provider? I'm tempted to set up Asterisk now that I have a homelab running. Saw some interesting SIP phones at my local
electronics junk store - Grandstream GXP 1405s.

I'm using PhonePower with their 24.95/mo international dialing plan.
I have a good friend who lived near me that now lives in the U.K. I talk to about weekly, and a gal pal in the Czech Republic I speak with. I've had this plan with them for 20 years when they were BroadVoice.

Grandstream is pretty good. I have a half dozen of those that have worked flawlessly for again 20 years however I use those as backups. What I've been using for 18 or so years is a Digium Wildcard with a Uniden 900Mhz system. Since it can't read whether voicemail exists on Asterisk, that's one of the modules I made: It scans the users voicemail directory every 30 minutes and if new mail exists it will ring the local extension with a CID of *97 once and hangs up so the user only needs to call back what was on the screen to retrieve their mail.

My wildcard has 2 FXS and 2 FXO modules but they're mix n match. You can find them pretty reasonable on eBay.

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