• Star Trek Discovery

    From Avon@21:1/101 to All on Fri Dec 11 17:21:50 2020
    I've been enjoying the latest season. I think there's enough twists in the storyline to keep folks hooked in. Not sure if we'll see another season commissioned though.

    Who's behind The Burn? That's the big question for S3

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Avon on Fri Dec 11 18:55:00 2020
    On 12-11-20 17:21, Avon wrote to All <=-

    I've been enjoying the latest season. I think there's enough twists in
    the storyline to keep folks hooked in. Not sure if we'll see another season commissioned though.

    Who's behind The Burn? That's the big question for S3

    Most definitely, still in the final stages of catching up (will be up to date in 2 hours), but I'm really enjoying S3 of Discovery.


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  • From Adept@21:2/108 to Avon on Fri Dec 11 19:24:38 2020
    I've been enjoying the latest season. I think there's enough twists in
    the storyline to keep folks hooked in. Not sure if we'll see another season commissioned though.

    I had read some reviews of episodes on space.com, and they did _not_ like the visit to the Vulcans episode. And feel that, in general, the season has had
    too much whiplash between various writers.

    But I've enjoyed the season. Michael hasn't seemed _quite_ as one-note on crying all the time (emotion is fine. The same emotional response being sold
    as depth of feeling is boring.).

    And I like the characters.

    As you say, who knows if they'll see a season 4 (it doesn't seem like it's found its place in the pantheon of loved Star Trek series, but who knows?),
    but I think there's plenty for them to explore, and I'd love to see a couple seasons more of their adventures.

    But I'm probably a sucker for most Star Trek, even if there's a ton I haven't watched.

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Vk3jed on Sat Dec 12 09:55:38 2020
    On 11 Dec 2020 at 06:55p, Vk3jed pondered and said...

    Most definitely, still in the final stages of catching up (will be up to date in 2 hours), but I'm really enjoying S3 of Discovery.

    Same, I know the show has it's critics but at least it's something fresh to watch from the Star Trek universe in 2020.

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  • From Bob Roberts@21:2/118 to Adept on Fri Dec 11 12:56:38 2020
    I had read some reviews of episodes on space.com, and they did _not_ like the visit to the Vulcans episode. And feel that, in general, the season has had too much whiplash between various writers.

    I think there has been some sillyness, such as the bizzare vulcan "logic" ritual that seemed to start and stop without much explanation. Also the fact that it occured in the cafeteria with tiki torches seemed a bit cheap in terms of set design. Maybe they blew their budget on the Seed Library set.

    But I've enjoyed the season. Michael hasn't seemed _quite_ as one-note on crying all the time (emotion is fine. The same emotional response being sold as depth of feeling is boring.).

    I like the new Starfleet Commander guy, and I think Saru and Tilly are good characters. I *love* what Michelle Yeoh has done with the Philippa character, and of course the snark from Tig Notaro as Jett Reno is really refreshing in a Trek character. If you ask me Michael is the most boring of them all.

    As you say, who knows if they'll see a season 4 (it doesn't seem like it's found its place in the pantheon of loved Star Trek series, but who knows?), but I think there's plenty for them to explore, and I'd love to see a couple seasons more of their adventures.

    I suspect it will be renewed simply because CBS needs content for their relaunch of CBS All Access / Paramount+ streaming service. :-)

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Avon on Sat Dec 12 08:51:00 2020
    Avon wrote to All <=-

    I've been enjoying the latest season. I think there's enough twists in
    the storyline to keep folks hooked in. Not sure if we'll see another season commissioned though.

    I thought they green-lighted season 4 already?



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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Dec 13 09:22:58 2020
    On 12 Dec 2020 at 08:51a, poindexter FORTRAN pondered and said...

    the storyline to keep folks hooked in. Not sure if we'll see another season commissioned though.

    I thought they green-lighted season 4 already?

    You're probably right. This is the sort of show I can imagine will see
    another season or two yet.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Avon on Tue Dec 15 14:07:00 2020
    On 12-12-20 09:55, Avon wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    On 11 Dec 2020 at 06:55p, Vk3jed pondered and said...

    Most definitely, still in the final stages of catching up (will be up to date in 2 hours), but I'm really enjoying S3 of Discovery.

    Same, I know the show has it's critics but at least it's something
    fresh to watch from the Star Trek universe in 2020.

    Well, we're up to date here, and yes, I'm certainly loving S3 of Discovery, and can't wait for the next episode.


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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Vk3jed on Wed Dec 16 13:23:58 2020
    On 15 Dec 2020 at 02:07p, Vk3jed pondered and said...

    Well, we're up to date here, and yes, I'm certainly loving S3 of Discovery, and can't wait for the next episode.

    The first of the two part episode I thought was a tad slow but hopefully it will advance the storyline in a meaningful way :)

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  • From Bob Roberts@21:2/118 to Avon on Tue Dec 15 18:13:46 2020
    Well, we're up to date here, and yes, I'm certainly loving S3 of
    Discovery, and can't wait for the next episode.

    The first of the two part episode I thought was a tad slow but hopefully it
    will advance the storyline in a meaningful way :)

    I'm not sure how I feel about creepy-dude-with-a-door-in-the-snow, and why he's hanging out on an empty planet. Maybe its those big-brain guys again.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Avon on Wed Dec 16 18:31:00 2020
    On 12-16-20 13:23, Avon wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    On 15 Dec 2020 at 02:07p, Vk3jed pondered and said...

    Well, we're up to date here, and yes, I'm certainly loving S3 of Discovery, and can't wait for the next episode.

    The first of the two part episode I thought was a tad slow but
    hopefully it will advance the storyline in a meaningful way :)

    I'm sure it will. Can't wait. :)


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  • From Warpslide@21:3/110 to Vk3jed on Wed Dec 16 08:24:42 2020
    On 16 Dec 2020, Vk3jed said the following...

    ... The weirder you're going to behave, the more normal you should look.

    This is one of my favourite P.J. O'Rourke quotes. Here's the full quote:

    "The weirder you're going to behave, the more normal you should look. It works in reverse, too. When I see a kid with three or four rings in his nose, I know there is absolutely nothing extraordinary about that person."

    I've always liked it because while I do look quite "normal", I've always been kind of a goofball.

    Jay

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Bob Roberts on Wed Dec 16 07:01:00 2020
    Bob Roberts wrote to Avon <=-

    I'm not sure how I feel about creepy-dude-with-a-door-in-the-snow, and
    why he's hanging out on an empty planet. Maybe its those big-brain
    guys again.

    If they had more budget to play with, it would have been good to have
    a de-aged John DeLancie as Q in that role. :)



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Warpslide on Wed Dec 16 07:02:00 2020
    Warpslide wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    This is one of my favourite P.J. O'Rourke quotes. Here's the full
    quote:

    "The weirder you're going to behave, the more normal you should look.
    It works in reverse, too. When I see a kid with three or four rings in his nose, I know there is absolutely nothing extraordinary about that person."

    He was one of my favorite writers in the '90s. "Holidays in Hell" and
    his Manners book were hilarious. Seems I spent most of the '90s
    re-reading him and Hunter S. Thompson.



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  • From Adept@21:2/108 to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Dec 16 18:47:56 2020
    I'm not sure how I feel about creepy-dude-with-a-door-in-the-snow, an why he's hanging out on an empty planet. Maybe its those big-brain guys again.

    If they had more budget to play with, it would have been good to have
    a de-aged John DeLancie as Q in that role. :)

    How did aging work for that character?

    I mean, they could explain it away fairly easily, and just say that he was affected by The Burn or something.

    ...not that I have any desire to see Q. I think he was one of my
    least-enjoyed characters.

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  • From Bob Roberts@21:2/118 to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Dec 16 11:38:18 2020
    I'm not sure how I feel about creepy-dude-with-a-door-in-the-snow,
    and why he's hanging out on an empty planet. Maybe its those
    big-brain guys again.

    If they had more budget to play with, it would have been good to have
    a de-aged John DeLancie as Q in that role. :)

    Yes! Bring back Q!

    Looks like DeLancie still alive.

    "In early 2012, John de Lancie discovered that he had been flooded with hundreds of emails almost overnight for his portrayal of the mischievious villain Discord in Friendship is Magic. Oddly enough, all of the mail seemed to be coming from adults! This was when he discovered Bronies for the first time, and the concept of such a unique demographic forming around a TV show fascinated him to no end. As the fandom grew, so did his curiosity. Seeking to learn more about this phenomenon, he joined forces with producer Michael Brockhoff to create a documentary, and in the process answer essential questions about the Bronies: who they were, where they came from, and what they aimed to do."

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  • From Bob Roberts@21:2/118 to Adept on Wed Dec 16 11:48:12 2020
    How did aging work for that character?

    I mean, they could explain it away fairly easily, and just say that he was affected by The Burn or something.

    He could show up in any form. He could look like a cheap day-rate actor and just say "Hey I'm Q, what up?"

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Bob Roberts on Thu Dec 17 13:39:24 2020
    On 15 Dec 2020 at 06:13p, Bob Roberts pondered and said...

    I'm not sure how I feel about creepy-dude-with-a-door-in-the-snow, and
    why he's
    hanging out on an empty planet. Maybe its those big-brain guys again.

    My wife wondered if it could be a reference to the Q ?

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Warpslide on Thu Dec 17 13:44:14 2020
    On 16 Dec 2020 at 08:24a, Warpslide pondered and said...

    I've always liked it because while I do look quite "normal", I've always been kind of a goofball.

    Nice quote, I had not seen that before. I like it too :)

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Dec 17 13:47:30 2020
    On 16 Dec 2020 at 07:01a, poindexter FORTRAN pondered and said...

    If they had more budget to play with, it would have been good to have
    a de-aged John DeLancie as Q in that role. :)

    Snap... we figured it was a Q like role also... it's really the only explanation we could come up with at this point.

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Adept on Thu Dec 17 13:49:08 2020
    On 16 Dec 2020 at 06:47p, Adept pondered and said...
    ...not that I have any desire to see Q. I think he was one of my least-enjoyed characters.

    I never really thought too much of the character either. It seemed to be a convenient way for the writers to enable some rather far out there challenges for the TNG crew to face.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Adept on Wed Dec 16 16:47:24 2020
    Re: Re: Star Trek Discovery
    By: Adept to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Dec 16 2020 06:47 pm

    ...not that I have any desire to see Q. I think he was one of my least-enjoyed characters.

    Now that I think of it, having him drop in on Jean-Luc Picard might be interesting.
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  • From MeaTLoTioN@21:1/158 to Avon on Thu Dec 17 01:03:50 2020
    On 17 Dec 2020, Avon said the following...

    On 16 Dec 2020 at 06:47p, Adept pondered and said...
    ...not that I have any desire to see Q. I think he was one of my least-enjoyed characters.

    I never really thought too much of the character either. It seemed to be aconvenient way for the writers to enable some rather far out there challengesfor the TNG crew to face.

    Oh my gosh, really? Q was one of my favorite! Especially loved when Janeway et all went to the continuum, to be judiciary for Q when he wanted to be less Q.

    One of my favourite episodes.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Warpslide on Thu Dec 17 13:23:00 2020
    On 12-16-20 08:24, Warpslide wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    On 16 Dec 2020, Vk3jed said the following...

    ... The weirder you're going to behave, the more normal you should look.

    This is one of my favourite P.J. O'Rourke quotes. Here's the full
    quote:

    "The weirder you're going to behave, the more normal you should look.
    It works in reverse, too. When I see a kid with three or four rings in his nose, I know there is absolutely nothing extraordinary about that person."

    I've always liked it because while

    Yeah that's pretty good. I can relate to it as well. :)


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Avon on Thu Dec 17 13:40:00 2020
    On 12-17-20 13:47, Avon wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    On 16 Dec 2020 at 07:01a, poindexter FORTRAN pondered and said...

    If they had more budget to play with, it would have been good to have
    a de-aged John DeLancie as Q in that role. :)

    Snap... we figured it was a Q like role also... it's really the only explanation we could come up with at this point.

    Q came to my mind as well. :)


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Dec 17 13:41:00 2020
    On 12-16-20 16:47, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Adept <=-

    Re: Re: Star Trek Discovery
    By: Adept to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Dec 16 2020 06:47 pm

    ...not that I have any desire to see Q. I think he was one of my least-enjoyed characters.

    Now that I think of it, having him drop in on Jean-Luc Picard might be interesting.

    That sounds like one "for old time's sake". :D


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Vk3jed on Thu Dec 17 06:42:00 2020
    Vk3jed wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    Now that I think of it, having him drop in on Jean-Luc Picard might be interesting.

    That sounds like one "for old time's sake". :D

    I got it - have him appear de-aged, look at Picard and decide to look
    his real age, with some comment about how being mortal seems so
    droll.



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Vk3jed on Thu Dec 17 07:32:00 2020
    Vk3jed wrote to Warpslide <=-

    "The weirder you're going to behave, the more normal you should look.
    It works in reverse, too. When I see a kid with three or four rings in his nose, I know there is absolutely nothing extraordinary about that person."

    Yeah that's pretty good. I can relate to it as well. :)

    "When the going gets weird, the Weird turn pro..."

    -- Hunter S. Thompson



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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Dec 18 19:01:00 2020
    On 12-17-20 06:42, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I got it - have him appear de-aged, look at Picard and decide to look
    his real age, with some comment about how being mortal seems so
    droll.

    That would work quite well. :)


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Dec 18 19:04:00 2020
    On 12-17-20 07:32, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    "When the going gets weird, the Weird turn pro..."

    Haha yeah. :D


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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to MeaTLoTioN on Sun Dec 20 09:25:08 2020
    On 17 Dec 2020 at 01:03a, MeaTLoTioN pondered and said...

    Oh my gosh, really? Q was one of my favorite! Especially loved when Janeway et all went to the continuum, to be judiciary for Q when he
    wanted to be less Q.

    Don't get me wrong. I don't mind Q and I thought the actor did a great job of playing him in TNG. I just found it a bit to far out that such an entity
    could exist in the ST universe and saw it as a plot enabling device for far
    out stuff to be seen as credible.

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  • From Warpslide@21:3/110 to Avon on Sat Dec 19 15:46:54 2020
    On 20 Dec 2020, Avon said the following...

    Don't get me wrong. I don't mind Q and I thought the actor did a great
    job ofplaying him in TNG. I just found it a bit to far out that such an entitycould exist in the ST universe and saw it as a plot enabling
    device for farout stuff to be seen as credible.

    That's like some of those holodeck episodes (e.g. Dixon Hill) episodes, where "something" goes wrong and the only way to get the crew out is to let the holodeck program run its course.

    Though I did enjoy the Professor Moriarty storyline about a computer program becoming sentient.

    Jay

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Warpslide on Sun Dec 20 10:34:52 2020
    On 19 Dec 2020 at 03:46p, Warpslide pondered and said...

    Though I did enjoy the Professor Moriarty storyline about a computer program becoming sentient.

    yes I remember that one also and agree... the sentience aspect really made
    that episode.

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  • From Bob Roberts@21:2/118 to Warpslide on Sat Dec 19 16:57:32 2020
    That's like some of those holodeck episodes (e.g. Dixon Hill) episodes, where "something" goes wrong
    and the only way to get the crew out is to let the holodeck program run its course.

    The combat protocols are disabled!
    You mean?!?
    Thats right, if we get shot.... we'll die for real.
    <zoom in>
    <music swells>
    <cut to commercial>

    Thats Drama Baby!

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Avon on Mon Dec 21 20:13:00 2020
    On 12-20-20 10:34, Avon wrote to Warpslide <=-

    On 19 Dec 2020 at 03:46p, Warpslide pondered and said...

    Though I did enjoy the Professor Moriarty storyline about a computer program becoming sentient.

    yes I remember that one also and agree... the sentience aspect really
    made that episode.

    I'd agree, the emergent sentience did give cause to ponder during that episode.


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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Adept on Tue Dec 22 12:27:22 2020
    On 21 Dec 2020 at 10:49p, Adept pondered and said...

    I enjoyed them, though I guess I can see the criticisms that they didn't develop the character in the correct way for that particular growth to be entirely in keeping.

    I did kind of wonder if they were planning a spinoff based on the
    outcome of that episode.

    I think the idea was that she was going to head up a Section 31 spin off series.. That could well have opened the door for that to occur. I don't
    think storyline will be a hurdle, rather it will be convincing business suits to fund the series ;-)

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  • From Warpslide@21:3/110 to Avon on Mon Dec 21 21:44:10 2020
    On 22 Dec 2020, Avon said the following...

    I think the idea was that she was going to head up a Section 31 spin off series.. That could well have opened the door for that to occur. I don't think storyline will be a hurdle, rather it will be convincing business suitsto fund the series ;-)

    Don't forget about the "Strange New Worlds" spinoff as well:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD6kUZwMOjQ

    Jay

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  • From Adept@21:2/108 to Avon on Tue Dec 22 18:14:24 2020
    think storyline will be a hurdle, rather it will be convincing business suits to fund the series ;-)

    I mean, the last episode was a Deus ex machina that was created in the
    original series, so storylines never seem to be a hurdle. :)

    But, indeed, it'll be interesting to see what they fund.

    As much as I enjoy the Star Trek universe, having two ongoing series already seems like it might be nearing saturation.

    But then again, half of movies are superhero films, and Netflix is producing _so_ much content. So perhaps CBS wants to keep up.

    Though, that said, I just subscribed to Netflix, and there's Star Trek: Discovery. I guess CBS: All access isn't a thing over here (and probably not
    in New Zealand, either), so it's different.

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