• sfxNet, Usenet and write access to new user

    From Andy@21:3/128 to All on Tue Nov 24 10:23:40 2020
    Hi all.

    How do you handle write access to networks?
    After automatic email verification new user have write access to local areas
    on my BBS.

    But how's it with networks?
    I'm a little afraid about spam poster.

    Cheers

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  • From MeaTLoTioN@21:1/158.6 to Andy on Tue Nov 24 11:28:40 2020
    On 24 Nov 2020, Andy said the following...

    Hi all.

    How do you handle write access to networks?
    After automatic email verification new user have write access to local areason my BBS.

    But how's it with networks?
    I'm a little afraid about spam poster.


    Hi Andy,

    I usually give all users read list post ACS for s10 and above for all networks. Some people would give read and list acs s10 but post s20 or something once their account is "verified" or something, but I like to offer anyone the ability to post right away.

    What were you thinking about spam postings? Do you have an example?

    Thanks!

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  • From Andy@21:3/128 to MeaTLoTioN on Tue Nov 24 15:07:16 2020
    What were you thinking about spam postings? Do you have an example?

    There are quite a few spam messages on Usenet.I don't want to encourage this, and that's why I'm thinking about how I can best prevent this on my
    system.

    Hence my question, how did other solve this.

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  • From MeaTLoTioN@21:1/158.6 to Andy on Tue Nov 24 14:50:38 2020
    There are quite a few spam messages on Usenet.I don't want to encourage this,and that's why I'm thinking about how I can best prevent this on my system.

    Well I guess you could raise the security level for the Post ACS so that although new users can read messages in the bases, until they are "validated" they cannot post?

    You could do that on a per group or per base basis if you wanted more granularity of course.

    I think that would be one way to lower the risk of people using your system to spam the echomail areas.

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  • From deepthaw@21:2/128 to Andy on Tue Nov 24 09:40:18 2020


    On 11/24/2020 3:07 pm Andy said...
    There are quite a few spam messages on Usenet.I don't want to encourage this, and that's why I'm thinking about how I can best prevent this on my system.

    If somebody's going to spam USENET, they're not going to go through the effort of signing up on a BBS to do so. I'd leave the access same as your regular users.

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  • From Andy@21:3/128 to MeaTLoTioN on Tue Nov 24 17:15:18 2020
    Well I guess you could raise the security level for the Post ACS so that although new users can read messages in the bases, until they are


    Well, this is a practicable way I think. I'll tes this :)

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  • From Andy@21:3/128 to deepthaw on Tue Nov 24 17:18:06 2020
    I'd leave the access same as your regular users.

    Nearly the same as MeTaLoTiOn wrote.

    This I will combine with email (self) verification.

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  • From Andy@21:3/128 to ALL on Tue Nov 24 17:38:28 2020
    I have now changed the settings.
    Thanks for your assistance.

    Andy

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  • From Warpslide@21:3/110 to Andy on Tue Nov 24 12:10:30 2020
    On 24 Nov 2020, MeaTLoTioN said the following...

    Well I guess you could raise the security level for the Post ACS so that although new users can read messages in the bases, until they are "validated"they cannot post?

    I'm kind of mean on my system. I require users to verify their email address before they're allowed to access anything.

    Sure someone can create a new hotmail address and use that to verify their account, but at least they have to work for it to try and cause trouble.

    Also would stop any automated bots, though I'm not aware of any that exist for BBSs.

    Jay

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Andy on Wed Nov 25 04:51:00 2020
    There are quite a few spam messages on Usenet.I don't want to encourage this, and that's why I'm thinking about how I can best prevent
    this on my system.

    In the halcyon days we used to let anyone at it. In those days most people were physically located not far from you and usually someone knew them or just a step removed. So it was probably a bit easier to vet. But we used to post a warning that if you abused it then that'd be it, no more for you.

    Spec


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  • From Andy@21:3/128 to Spectre on Tue Nov 24 19:53:04 2020
    In the halcyon days we used to let anyone at it.

    I remember this. In the late 80s I was running an up to 4 dial line BBS for a few years.

    Networking and Internet... no chance :D

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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Andy on Tue Nov 24 10:24:02 2020
    How do you handle write access to networks?
    After automatic email verification new user have write access to local areason my BBS.

    But how's it with networks?
    I'm a little afraid about spam poster.
    Cheers

    So I do what you do, and allow s10 users to access local message bases. My standard verified users are s20, so I set all FTNs to s20 so that they have to be validated to even see the FTNs.

    Furthermore, I set some FTN message bases to s50; my extended access level. And a few FTN message bases to s255, the ones that are intended only for administators or etc etc.

    I have a similar access level outline for my file areas, but... I think you get my basics.

    Hope that helps, a little.



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  • From Andy@21:3/128 to paulie420 on Tue Nov 24 21:14:50 2020
    Hope that helps, a little.


    Yes indeed - it does.

    Thanks Paulie

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  • From Zip@21:1/202 to Andy on Tue Nov 24 12:22:24 2020
    Hello Andy!

    On 24 Nov 2020, Andy said the following...
    How do you handle write access to networks?

    I have chosen four user flags:

    ACS User Flags #1 (fa ... fz):

    A: Disable local private posting
    B: Disable local non-private posting
    C: Disable netmail posting (ALL networks)
    D: Disable echomail posting (ALL networks)

    For local, private message areas ("e-mail, e.g. "Private Messages"):
    Post ACS: !fa

    For local discussions (e.g. "General Messages"):
    Post ACS: s20&!fb

    For netmail areas (e.g. "fsxNet Netmail"):
    Post ACS: s20&!fc

    For echomail areas (e.g. "FSX_BBS"):
    Post ACS: s20&!fd

    So if a user causes any trouble, posting can easily be disabled.

    Best regards
    Zip

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  • From Andy@21:3/128 to Zip on Wed Nov 25 16:32:42 2020
    Hello Zip

    Looks somewhat more complicated in settings, but very effective, I think.

    Thanks for detailed posting.

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  • From Nigel Reed@21:2/101 to Andy on Wed Nov 25 13:07:08 2020
    Andy wrote:
    Hi all.

    How do you handle write access to networks?
    After automatic email verification new user have write access to local areas on my BBS.

    But how's it with networks?
    I'm a little afraid about spam poster.

    I don't have automatic verification, but I do let them have write access immediately to the local boards on my BBS. I find they'll see what they can access and post their spam before sending an email to the sysop to verify
    their account. I've caught a number of potential spammers that way.
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  • From Andy@21:3/128 to Nigel Reed on Wed Nov 25 21:08:40 2020
    I don't have automatic verification, but I do let them have write access immediately to the local boards on my BBS. I find they'll see what they can access and post their spam before sending an email to the sysop to verify their account. I've caught a number of potential spammers that
    way.

    This is a very interesting idea (Y)

    After all it is easy to delete local spam posts.

    Thanks Nigel

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Andy on Thu Nov 26 12:52:10 2020
    Hi there

    I offer non-validated new users read only access to message bases

    Once validated they gain post access to bases.

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  • From Andy@21:3/128 to Avon on Thu Nov 26 06:32:12 2020
    I offer non-validated new users read only access to message bases

    That's in my settings too, write access is a little more different now.

    But I'm still thinking about it, so it is not the end :)

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  • From Zip@21:1/202 to Andy on Fri Nov 27 13:19:20 2020
    Hello Andy!

    On 25 Nov 2020, Andy said the following...
    Looks somewhat more complicated in settings, but very effective, I think. Thanks for detailed posting.

    You're very welcome! :)

    Best regards
    Zip

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