Hello Jf!

** On Wednesday 13.01.21 - 14:20, JF wrote to Ogg:

For one thing, I could often think better when I could pace
around bit every few minutes.

Same here. Every time I write a few lines of code or, get
something to work, reach a small milestone, get paste a
hurdle, etc, I pace around the house for a bit. It helps me,
though not sure in which way exactly.

When I get a phone call, I'll tend to walk around while talking
on the cordless phone.

Back in the day, before the cordless varieties were available,
we'd have a coiled cord for the "main" wall phone at the handset
(not counting the portable extensions with their own standard
phone cords) that could almost extend the full length of the
house. Pacing and talking just seemed to delvelop into a
"thing" for me.

I also have a stand up desk, so I'm actually standing up
half the day...

I have a regular desk with the computer, but I rarely sit down
at it. I'll hover, for as long I can to key in an entry, but
then I am off doing something else. I don't even bother with a
regular chair - I use a round adjustable vintage piano stool.

That aside, I'll confess I'm pretty much sedentary. I try to
go for walks outside every day but lately I've been so
caught up with work I barely stop all day. Not very
healthy...

Some people have found that if they set a timer to go off at a
certain time to take that as a reminder to take a break. Maybe
try something like that.

Myself, I can lock up my shop for about 15 minutes and just take
quick walk outside up and down the sidewalk - that helps to give
the mind a bit of a break and gain the physical benefic of a
brisk walk.

I hope things return to normal soon so that I can
take the time to have a proper lunch, go for a walk, etc.

I don't even know what a proper lunch is. I *have* to eat
things that don't require too many dishes or utensils, and
something I can finish in about 5 minutes. :) It took a little
time to "figure out" what works best for me, but the result is
exactly what I need logistically - and healthy.

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Hello Arelor!

** On Wednesday 13.01.21 - 18:04, Arelor wrote to JF:

I had not realized, but I also move a lot while doing code
and computer stuff.

It is a combination of factors. FOr one thing, I use
multiple computers that are phisically separate, often in
different rooms, at once. I may have one start downloading
stuff, move to a different computer, code something, then go
back to the first one, set it to compile something, and
return to the second one.

Exactly. That pretty much describes what my professional work
was like in engineering. Although most of my work was pretty
much isolated (in a cubicle), I still needed to pace so that I
could think, or walk to a shared printer, or go to a separate
server room, or go visit a collegue to discuss a programming
issue.

Also I have the scanners and printers separated from where
my computers are, so when I need to print or scan anything
(which is quite common) I have to walk to the printers and
back.

I bet you'd be a lot happier if you could go horseback to those
destinations.

The scenes in Green Acres where they always had to climb the
utility pole inorder to use the phone always cracked me up.

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Re: but I also move a lot while doing code
By: Ogg to Arelor on Wed Jan 13 2021 11:48 pm

Also I have the scanners and printers separated from where
my computers are, so when I need to print or scan anything
(which is quite common) I have to walk to the printers and
back.

I bet you'd be a lot happier if you could go horseback to those destinations.

My horses have expressed the desire to move into the house with me but I think that would be troublesome.


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Hello Ogg!

On 13 Jan 2021, Ogg inked down this thought...

When I get a phone call, I'll tend to walk around while talking
on the cordless phone.

I do the same. Sometimes I do laps around the kitchen, or pace back and forth through the living room. I would find it hard to think, or, for instance, do
a presentation, if I had to stay still. It helps with the flow of thoughts.

then I am off doing something else. I don't even bother with a
regular chair - I use a round adjustable vintage piano stool.

I got one of them "drafting chairs" for my stand up desk because they can go really high. So I find myself jumping in and out of my chair to stand or sit, with my desk always at the same height. I use to move my desk up and down all the time but not anymore. Guess I didn't really need an adjustable desk afterall...

There are some nice fancy ergo chairs out there but as you say, a stool is totally fine if you're moving around and about all the time. I actually find
it more comfortable to sit on the edge of a stool than to lean back in a deep and comfy chair. But really, I can't really speak on the later since I've
never really had one. Prior to my drafting chair, I was sitting on a chair
from the kitchen table.

Some people have found that if they set a timer to go off at a
certain time to take that as a reminder to take a break. Maybe
try something like that.

Yes I think having a fixed time and making it a habit should definitely help.

Myself, I can lock up my shop for about 15 minutes and just take
quick walk outside up and down the sidewalk - that helps to give

Sometimes 15 minutes is all you need for a "reset" and to feel good again!

JF

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Hello Arelor!

** On Thursday 14.01.21 - 03:29, Arelor wrote to Ogg:

I bet you'd be a lot happier if you could go horseback to
those destinations.

My horses have expressed the desire to move into the house
with me but I think that would be troublesome.

If you'd ask the horse, they would probably disagree with you.
All you have to do is provide the similar ammenities as you do
in their barns. Can a horse be housebroken as can a dog or cat?
Maybe your horses are willing to try. :D


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On 13 Jan 2021, Ogg said the following...

When I get a phone call, I'll tend to walk around while talking
on the cordless phone.

Back in the day, before the cordless varieties were available,
we'd have a coiled cord for the "main" wall phone at the handset
(not counting the portable extensions with their own standard
phone cords) that could almost extend the full length of the
house. Pacing and talking just seemed to delvelop into a
"thing" for me.

I do this too, sometimes without realizing it. I was on a call for work yesterday (still working from home) - I started the call on my cell phone in my office upstairs, somewhere along the line I started walking around while talking.

The call lasted maybe 40 minutes or so, when the it was over I hung up and then said to myself "how did I end up in the kitchen?!"


Jay

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On 14 Jan 2021, Ogg said the following...

My horses have expressed the desire to move into the house
with me but I think that would be troublesome.

If you'd ask the horse, they would probably disagree with you.
All you have to do is provide the similar ammenities as you do
in their barns. Can a horse be housebroken as can a dog or cat?
Maybe your horses are willing to try. :D

That would be one big doggy door to install!

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Hello Warpslide!

** On Thursday 14.01.21 - 08:32, Warpslide wrote to Ogg:

The call lasted maybe 40 minutes or so, when the it was over
I hung up and then said to myself "how did I end up in the
kitchen?!"

That's because your body/brain knows that after all that walking
and pacing you need food to replenish that spent energy.


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Re: but I also move a lot while doing code
By: Ogg to Arelor on Thu Jan 14 2021 07:50 am

Hello Arelor!

** On Thursday 14.01.21 - 03:29, Arelor wrote to Ogg:

I bet you'd be a lot happier if you could go horseback to
those destinations.

My horses have expressed the desire to move into the house
with me but I think that would be troublesome.

If you'd ask the horse, they would probably disagree with you.
All you have to do is provide the similar ammenities as you do
in their barns. Can a horse be housebroken as can a dog or cat?
Maybe your horses are willing to try. :D

Horses can be housetrained. I suggest you to look Misha up in the Internet. SHe is the most famous case I know off but there are more.

The problem is one of them is a draft mare, so big she would not make it through the door without ripping the wall appart. And the one who can make it through would become very anxious if she found helself in a place without the other.

Then there is the fact my family would dislike the deal.

Other than that I'd love to give it a try.

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Re: Re: but I also move a lot while doing code
By: Barmed to Ogg on Thu Jan 14 2021 07:48 am

On 14 Jan 2021, Ogg said the following...

My horses have expressed the desire to move into the house
with me but I think that would be troublesome.

If you'd ask the horse, they would probably disagree with you.
All you have to do is provide the similar ammenities as you do
in their barns. Can a horse be housebroken as can a dog or cat?
Maybe your horses are willing to try. :D

That would be one big doggy door to install!

The cases I know where they let the horse in and out, they let the door unlocked and loaded with a spring, so the horse can open it and go through and the door self closes.

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On 14 Jan 2021, Warpslide inked down this thought...

The call lasted maybe 40 minutes or so, when the it was over I hung up
and then said to myself "how did I end up in the kitchen?!"

That was like me driving to work in the morning. You're on autopilot for a while and then suddenly you snap out of it, thinking to yourself, Wow, how did I get across all of those intersections without giving them a second thought?

JF

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Hello Jf!

** On Wednesday 13.01.21 - 14:20, JF wrote to Ogg:

For one thing, I could often think better when I could pace
around bit every few minutes.

Same here. Every time I write a few lines of code or, get
something to work, reach a small milestone, get paste a
hurdle, etc, I pace around the house for a bit. It helps me,
though not sure in which way exactly.

When I get a phone call, I'll tend to walk around while talking
on the cordless phone.

Back in the day, before the cordless varieties were available,
we'd have a coiled cord for the "main" wall phone at the handset
(not counting the portable extensions with their own standard
phone cords) that could almost extend the full length of the
house. Pacing and talking just seemed to delvelop into a
"thing" for me.

I also have a stand up desk, so I'm actually standing up
half the day...

I have a regular desk with the computer, but I rarely sit down
at it. I'll hover, for as long I can to key in an entry, but
then I am off doing something else. I don't even bother with a
regular chair - I use a round adjustable vintage piano stool.

That aside, I'll confess I'm pretty much sedentary. I try to
go for walks outside every day but lately I've been so
caught up with work I barely stop all day. Not very
healthy...

Some people have found that if they set a timer to go off at a
certain time to take that as a reminder to take a break. Maybe
try something like that.

Myself, I can lock up my shop for about 15 minutes and just take
quick walk outside up and down the sidewalk - that helps to give
the mind a bit of a break and gain the physical benefic of a
brisk walk.

I hope things return to normal soon so that I can
take the time to have a proper lunch, go for a walk, etc.

I don't even know what a proper lunch is. I *have* to eat
things that don't require too many dishes or utensils, and
something I can finish in about 5 minutes. :) It took a little
time to "figure out" what works best for me, but the result is
exactly what I need logistically - and healthy.

--- OpenXP 5.0.48
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Hello Arelor!

** On Wednesday 13.01.21 - 18:04, Arelor wrote to JF:

I had not realized, but I also move a lot while doing code
and computer stuff.

It is a combination of factors. FOr one thing, I use
multiple computers that are phisically separate, often in
different rooms, at once. I may have one start downloading
stuff, move to a different computer, code something, then go
back to the first one, set it to compile something, and
return to the second one.

Exactly. That pretty much describes what my professional work
was like in engineering. Although most of my work was pretty
much isolated (in a cubicle), I still needed to pace so that I
could think, or walk to a shared printer, or go to a separate
server room, or go visit a collegue to discuss a programming
issue.

Also I have the scanners and printers separated from where
my computers are, so when I need to print or scan anything
(which is quite common) I have to walk to the printers and
back.

I bet you'd be a lot happier if you could go horseback to those
destinations.

The scenes in Green Acres where they always had to climb the
utility pole inorder to use the phone always cracked me up.

--

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Re: but I also move a lot while doing code
By: Ogg to Arelor on Wed Jan 13 2021 11:48 pm

Also I have the scanners and printers separated from where
my computers are, so when I need to print or scan anything
(which is quite common) I have to walk to the printers and
back.

I bet you'd be a lot happier if you could go horseback to those destinations.

My horses have expressed the desire to move into the house with me but I think that would be troublesome.


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Hello Ogg!

On 13 Jan 2021, Ogg inked down this thought...

When I get a phone call, I'll tend to walk around while talking
on the cordless phone.

I do the same. Sometimes I do laps around the kitchen, or pace back and forth through the living room. I would find it hard to think, or, for instance, do
a presentation, if I had to stay still. It helps with the flow of thoughts.

then I am off doing something else. I don't even bother with a
regular chair - I use a round adjustable vintage piano stool.

I got one of them "drafting chairs" for my stand up desk because they can go really high. So I find myself jumping in and out of my chair to stand or sit, with my desk always at the same height. I use to move my desk up and down all the time but not anymore. Guess I didn't really need an adjustable desk afterall...

There are some nice fancy ergo chairs out there but as you say, a stool is totally fine if you're moving around and about all the time. I actually find
it more comfortable to sit on the edge of a stool than to lean back in a deep and comfy chair. But really, I can't really speak on the later since I've
never really had one. Prior to my drafting chair, I was sitting on a chair
from the kitchen table.

Some people have found that if they set a timer to go off at a
certain time to take that as a reminder to take a break. Maybe
try something like that.

Yes I think having a fixed time and making it a habit should definitely help.

Myself, I can lock up my shop for about 15 minutes and just take
quick walk outside up and down the sidewalk - that helps to give

Sometimes 15 minutes is all you need for a "reset" and to feel good again!

JF

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Hello Arelor!

** On Thursday 14.01.21 - 03:29, Arelor wrote to Ogg:

I bet you'd be a lot happier if you could go horseback to
those destinations.

My horses have expressed the desire to move into the house
with me but I think that would be troublesome.

If you'd ask the horse, they would probably disagree with you.
All you have to do is provide the similar ammenities as you do
in their barns. Can a horse be housebroken as can a dog or cat?
Maybe your horses are willing to try. :D


--- OpenXP 5.0.48
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On 13 Jan 2021, Ogg said the following...

When I get a phone call, I'll tend to walk around while talking
on the cordless phone.

Back in the day, before the cordless varieties were available,
we'd have a coiled cord for the "main" wall phone at the handset
(not counting the portable extensions with their own standard
phone cords) that could almost extend the full length of the
house. Pacing and talking just seemed to delvelop into a
"thing" for me.

I do this too, sometimes without realizing it. I was on a call for work yesterday (still working from home) - I started the call on my cell phone in my office upstairs, somewhere along the line I started walking around while talking.

The call lasted maybe 40 minutes or so, when the it was over I hung up and then said to myself "how did I end up in the kitchen?!"


Jay

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On 14 Jan 2021, Ogg said the following...

My horses have expressed the desire to move into the house
with me but I think that would be troublesome.

If you'd ask the horse, they would probably disagree with you.
All you have to do is provide the similar ammenities as you do
in their barns. Can a horse be housebroken as can a dog or cat?
Maybe your horses are willing to try. :D

That would be one big doggy door to install!

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Hello Warpslide!

** On Thursday 14.01.21 - 08:32, Warpslide wrote to Ogg:

The call lasted maybe 40 minutes or so, when the it was over
I hung up and then said to myself "how did I end up in the
kitchen?!"

That's because your body/brain knows that after all that walking
and pacing you need food to replenish that spent energy.


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Re: but I also move a lot while doing code
By: Ogg to Arelor on Thu Jan 14 2021 07:50 am

Hello Arelor!

** On Thursday 14.01.21 - 03:29, Arelor wrote to Ogg:

I bet you'd be a lot happier if you could go horseback to
those destinations.

My horses have expressed the desire to move into the house
with me but I think that would be troublesome.

If you'd ask the horse, they would probably disagree with you.
All you have to do is provide the similar ammenities as you do
in their barns. Can a horse be housebroken as can a dog or cat?
Maybe your horses are willing to try. :D

Horses can be housetrained. I suggest you to look Misha up in the Internet. SHe is the most famous case I know off but there are more.

The problem is one of them is a draft mare, so big she would not make it through the door without ripping the wall appart. And the one who can make it through would become very anxious if she found helself in a place without the other.

Then there is the fact my family would dislike the deal.

Other than that I'd love to give it a try.

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Re: Re: but I also move a lot while doing code
By: Barmed to Ogg on Thu Jan 14 2021 07:48 am

On 14 Jan 2021, Ogg said the following...

My horses have expressed the desire to move into the house
with me but I think that would be troublesome.

If you'd ask the horse, they would probably disagree with you.
All you have to do is provide the similar ammenities as you do
in their barns. Can a horse be housebroken as can a dog or cat?
Maybe your horses are willing to try. :D

That would be one big doggy door to install!

The cases I know where they let the horse in and out, they let the door unlocked and loaded with a spring, so the horse can open it and go through and the door self closes.

--
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On 14 Jan 2021, Warpslide inked down this thought...

The call lasted maybe 40 minutes or so, when the it was over I hung up
and then said to myself "how did I end up in the kitchen?!"

That was like me driving to work in the morning. You're on autopilot for a while and then suddenly you snap out of it, thinking to yourself, Wow, how did I get across all of those intersections without giving them a second thought?

JF

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