On 03-30-20 17:13, Accession wrote to Atreyu <=-

On 29 Mar 2020, Atreyu said the following...

Not all of them deserve that. I have to coordinate that net with a few
who are actually very humble, well-spoken, educated... and ended up good friends.

Where do we find those guys? ;)

Some of them are here. Fidonet is rather friendly in this corner of the world.
We were looking at having a sysops meet in Melbourne until COVID-19 put our plans on hold. ;) It might not happen (at least for me) until around this time next year, because it'll be summer track season by the time we're allowed back out, and I'm likely to run some pro meets, which will take up more Sundays as well. :)


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On 03-31-20 00:01, Atreyu wrote to Al <=-

I've made some pretty good friendships via. Fidonet which is why I
could never ditch it or walk away that easily... its a loyalty thing.

Yes, I still like Fidonet and participate there, though it's a shadow of its former self. :(

But its just full of problems. The biggest is software. There is no incentive to write anything new other than doing it for nostalgia or
you reside in Region 50.

True.

If Fido had better software like a decent App... think Aftershock but really dumbed-down further, not techie at all, it could really be taken

An app, yes, but Aftershock and HotFogRf are the wrong model for me. I would use my phone as an adjunct, not the centre of my BBS messaging, therefore an offline reader based solution would work better, because then the BBS would keep track of what I've read (downloaded) up to, rather than having effectively two independent systems to deal with. And yes, dumb it down, even if it uses QWK, it doesn't need to show the gory details.

The quality of Echomail convo I find far better with Othernets. There
is much less noise-factor and usually no trolling or douchebaggery.

True, the othernets that are active are very good. :)


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31 Mar 20 02:35:26, Netsurge said the following to Atreyu:

I'm not sure, I hear that RC12 is an Evil Overlord Dictator that wants convert us all to floppies and CBBS or Mister Bigglesworth will get upset.

SILENCE or I shall have the fidonet national guard have you string up by you ankles.

Better the ankles than the testicles.

Atreyu

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30 Mar 20 13:38:00, Gamgee said the following to Hustler:

I don't agree with that idea. I've never had any problems with
any *C's in Fidonet.

Only two trolls make dramatics out of the hat I wear, and now one has just responded to you in typical leftist-tone: Disagree with us and you're Hitler.

Atreyu

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HusTler wrote to Atreyu <=-

Yea... F&*K Fidonet and it's Big Headed coordinators!

Not all of them deserve that. I have to coordinate that net with a few who are actually very humble, well-spoken, educated... and ended up good friends.

Well you know what they say "One bad apple spoils the whole bunch".
Talk to the Fidonet New York Coordinator if my comments bother you.

Given that you're on FSXnet and Avon has been adamant about keeping a thriving, civil network I think he's the one to get involved.


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SILENCE or I shall have the fidonet national guard have you string up b ankles.

Better the ankles than the testicles.

Atreyu

I dunno you "are" pretty old now. They are probably hanging around the same place and could easily be mistaken for during the stringing up process. :)

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On 03-31-20 10:11, Atreyu wrote to Vk3Jed <=-

On 31 Mar 20 22:02:00, Vk3Jed said the following to Atreyu:

Yes, I still like Fidonet and participate there, though it's a shadow of

ts

former self. :(

Big time... there used to be a ton of good convo going on at one time. Even the mindless non-sequitor of the CHATTER echo.

And down here, there used to be a good Aussie general chat echo that was fun to participate in. :)

An app, yes, but Aftershock and HotFogRf are the wrong model for me. I

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use my phone as an adjunct, not the centre of my BBS messaging, therefore

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Yeah but you know what I mean. There has to be some sort of catchy software or solution so non-techies can join. It can't be the
traditional idea of a mailer and tosser, probably just a good editor or chat software.

Yeah, surely these days, you can have a good mail/chat/message reader. Message reading can be either online (perhaps using NNTP with some mods under the hood) or offline. There's a gazzilion ways chat could be provided.


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30 Mar 2020 at 02:51p, Al pondered and said...

ensure that a bad apple does not spoil the bunch. I do admit that Fido d have a bad rep for a long time and is not for everyone.

Fidonet is the net of nets and has a long history. I find fido is not
much different than real life, there are some good ones and there are
some bad ones. That can happen anywhere regardless of what you call the net.

Amen to that :)

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Yep, I learned quite a while back that "Oli" is a bat-shit crazy

leftist whack job, and don't even bother responding to his drivel
any more. He has an incurable case of Trump Derangement Syndrome,

Avon, can we please ban Gamgee? He's got a bad habit of insulting people on this network.

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Vk3jed wrote to Atreyu <=-

Big time... there used to be a ton of good convo going on at one time. Even the mindless non-sequitor of the CHATTER echo.

And down here, there used to be a good Aussie general chat echo that
was fun to participate in. :)

COFFEE_KLATSCH was a good general echo back in the 1990s and 2000s, I fear that most of the user population has passed on BBSing, or passed away. The feeling I got was that they were older folks in the midwest US without much
in the way of internet connectivity.

Yeah but you know what I mean. There has to be some sort of catchy software or solution so non-techies can join. It can't be the
traditional idea of a mailer and tosser, probably just a good editor or chat software.

echicken's web software for Synchronet does a pretty passable message forum, if we could build a mobile theme for it, that might be a good candidate for phone BBS browsing.

Yeah, surely these days, you can have a good mail/chat/message reader. Message reading can be either online (perhaps using NNTP with some mods under the hood) or offline. There's a gazzilion ways chat could be provided.

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Hey ryan, wasn't it you who keeps reminding me (and others) to

just scroll on to the next message, and/or grow a thicker skin?

You get offended about people's political opinions, which are not direct insults at you, but you make direct insults at other people. Why is this something you fail to understand?

Also, did you read the message from Oli to me in this thread? Why
is it OK when it's him insulting me?

Someone saying you're an authoritarian is far different than the type of
things you say about other people. The distinction is rather clear.

I'm not doing anything wrong, just defending myself. Have a nice
day.

False.

Please, just go somewhere else. I really don't want fsxNet to continue to
turn into Fidonet.

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I do understand that. The thread in question (this one) was not

that. I was responding to a direct insult to me, and politics was
not involved. Go back and read it if you have to.

Fine. On the one hand, I disagree yet again with your characterization of
being insulted based on everything I've read (you're welcome to copy and
paste because simply telling me to read a thread tells me nothing.) That
said, you're a grown up, and the appropriate thing for you to do is not
insult back, but to flag it with Avon since this type of behavior shouldn't
be tolerated around here.

All one has to do is read back in the thread, and see that it's
actually true. Stop trying to be a "net cop" because you don't
like me due to our political differences. You're not a moderator
here.

I don't care about your political differences, I care about the way you
insult people, and I won't stand for it. I don't care if it's me you're insulting or some other person, even if it's a person I disagree with.

You need to stop. And if someone directly insults you, flag it. Please try to be more civil around here.

Avon, please chime in, sadly Gamgee has a habit of being rather nasty toward people and I think the network suffers because of it. He also refuses to
budge.

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On 04-01-20 08:45, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-

And down here, there used to be a good Aussie general chat echo that
was fun to participate in. :)

COFFEE_KLATSCH was a good general echo back in the 1990s and 2000s, I
fear that most of the user population has passed on BBSing, or passed away. The feeling I got was that they were older folks in the midwest
US without much in the way of internet connectivity.

I'm not familiar with that echo.

echicken's web software for Synchronet does a pretty passable message forum, if we could build a mobile theme for it, that might be a good candidate for phone BBS browsing.

Yes, it's not a bad interface. Still have to get around to installing it on my system, for those users who want to use the web.


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Quoting Vk3jed to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

COFFEE_KLATSCH was a good general echo back in the 1990s and 2000s, I

I'm not familiar with that echo.

Moderator is a bit insane. He's banned me for life. LOL You can't
disagree with him. (I still have the echo here because Nick doesn't
respond to silly moderator bans, but I self isolate myself from any
echo he moderates)

Yes, it's not a bad interface. Still have to get around to installing
it on my system, for those users who want to use the web.

I still really like the MagickaBBS web interface. I just don't have
the computing horsepower to keep Magicka running all the time now.
Ezy is run on amazon somewhere / somehow.

Shawn

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Tiny wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Quoting Vk3jed to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

COFFEE_KLATSCH was a good general echo back in the 1990s and 2000s, I

I'm not familiar with that echo.

Moderator is a bit insane. He's banned me for life.

Wow. Whenever I hear something like that I expect to see a Dwight Schrute- type character with a white board behind him listing BANNED USERS.

LOL You can't

disagree with him. (I still have the echo here because Nick doesn't
respond to silly moderator bans, but I self isolate myself from any
echo he moderates)

Sounds like it's time for me to revisit the old haunt.


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On 04-02-20 13:16, Tiny wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Quoting Vk3jed to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

COFFEE_KLATSCH was a good general echo back in the 1990s and 2000s, I

I'm not familiar with that echo.

Moderator is a bit insane. He's banned me for life. LOL You can't
disagree with him. (I still have the echo here because Nick doesn't
respond to silly moderator bans, but I self isolate myself from any
echo he moderates)

Haha, sounds like he has some issues (the moderator that is). ;)

Yes, it's not a bad interface. Still have to get around to installing
it on my system, for those users who want to use the web.

I still really like the MagickaBBS web interface. I just don't have
the computing horsepower to keep Magicka running all the time now.
Ezy is run on amazon somewhere / somehow.

I haven't tried that one yet. I have Magicka here on a test machine, but never did anything with the web side. I am impressed with Magicka in general, though. :)


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Fidonet's small little cupcake is so insignificant and I have yet to encounter any real Napoleon moderator or coordinators anymore. The last one that tried to make me do something was Oli's wonderful Fido uplink when a downlink of mine accidently posted a BBS ad in some silly Linux echo. He made a real stink in Netmail about it. When it was obvious I
was going to do jack-shit he stopped. Turned all lovey-dovey polite when he requested a full feed here.

That's because you haven't seen my plan for forced labour and income tax for all members of Region 12 yet!

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Re: Re: Fido
By: Atreyu to Hustler on Fri Apr 03 2020 04:09 pm

Fidonet's small little cupcake is so insignificant and I have yet to encounter any real Napoleon moderator or coordinators anymore.

Yeah, when Fido-over-the-internet became prevalent, moderators lost their hammer (the feed cut).

I have a different take on moderation -- when I moderated echoes, it was as much about promoting new discussions, participating in them and promoting the echo as it was about enforcing rules. When I see an echo where the only postings are the monthly echo rules, I think it does a disservice to the network.
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Re: Re: Fido
By: Netsurge to Atreyu on Fri Apr 03 2020 05:27 pm

That's because you haven't seen my plan for forced labour and income tax for all members of Region 12 yet!

Region 10 is beginning the yearly Quell in a few weeks if you want to watch from my ivory network tower.
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On 04-02-20 13:16, Tiny wrote to Vk3jed <=-

COFFEE_KLATSCH was a good general echo back in the 1990s and 2000s, I

I'm not familiar with that echo.

Moderator is a bit insane. He's banned me for life. LOL You can't
disagree with him. (I still have the echo here because Nick doesn't
respond to silly moderator bans, but I self isolate myself from any
echo he moderates)

Who is the moderator on that one?

Come to think of it, I have not seen any traffic in there in quite a while, maybe I am banned?!? :D


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