LOL, so says the McNoob who's been around all of a week. Hahahaha!

A month, thank you very much.

Go play in traffic, boy.

You first! Show me how it's done!

Again I say, stop this bullsh!t! You're not going to convince anyone that you're better than me. We both know that's not true.

How long did it take you to figure out what I just did in a month? (o_O)
Get over yourself. You're not the smartest ass, anymore.

Find another target. I'm a Facebook veteran.

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On 2022 Jan 09 17:34:06, you wrote to The Millionaire:

Just a reminder, real names are the norm on FidoNet. And I'm assuming your parents didn't name you The Millionaire. Just as mine didn't name me McDoob...

this area is gated from DoveNet... DoveNet allows aliases... you are on the fidonet side of the fence whereas The Millionaire is on the DoveNet side ;)

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On 2022 Jan 09 22:57:48, you wrote to Gamgee:

Find another target. I'm a Facebook veteran.

that's certainly not something to brag about :LOL:

)\/(ark

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Find another target. I'm a Facebook veteran.

that's certainly not something to brag about :LOL:

I wasn't bragging. I was trying to stop a troll, by pointing out that I've seen, and dealt with, far worse.

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this area is gated from DoveNet... DoveNet allows aliases... you are on the fidonet side of the fence whereas The Millionaire is on the DoveNet side ;)

Thanks for pointing that out to me. I'm still having a hard time getting used to all the various *nets...

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On 2022 Jan 10 03:24:20, you wrote to me:

Find another target. I'm a Facebook veteran.

that's certainly not something to brag about :LOL:

I wasn't bragging. I was trying to stop a troll, by pointing out that I've seen, and dealt with, far worse.

the best way to deal with perceived trolls is to simply not feed them ;)

think of them like Gremlins...

1. don't expose them to bright light
2. don't get them wet
3. don't feed them after midnight

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the best way to deal with perceived trolls is to simply not feed them ;)

I know...but sometimes, I just want to feed a troll his own medicine...

Perception is relative. What I consider a troll might be an angel to you. And neither of us is wrong. One man's trash is another's treasure, right?

Anyway, this is going way off topic.
I'm willing to let it drop.

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Re: Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition
By: Shaun Buzza to mark lewis on Mon Jan 10 2022 03:24 am

Find another target. I'm a Facebook veteran.

that's certainly not something to brag about :LOL:

I wasn't bragging. I was trying to stop a troll, by pointing out that I've seen, and dealt with, far worse.

McDoob

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if you think facebook gives you cred for that shit, you dont know SHIT

I wasn't bragging. I was trying to stop a troll, by pointing out that I seen, and dealt with, far worse.

I also wasn't looking for 'cred', whatever that is.

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Re: Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition
By: Shaun Buzza to The Millionaire on Sun Jan 09 2022 05:34 pm

I stopped caring about Ubuntu when they stopped using Gnome. Now, I give my love to Linux Mint...

Isn't Gnome still the default desktop on Ubuntu? Either way, I've never really liked the default GUI on Gnome - It feels like it was designed for a tablet. I liked classic Gnome (2.x, I believe)?.

Linux Mint has been my favorite distro for a while now. I particularly like their Cinnamon UI, although I think their Xfce edition is good too.

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Re: Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition
By: Shaun Buzza to The Millionaire on Sun Jan 09 2022 06:34 pm

Besides, most new distros (including MX) are just Ubuntu/Debian, with a few minor changes. What reason is there, besides the UI, to change?

That does seem to be the case. You can even install Cinnomon on Ubuntu if you want (even though Cinnamon is more associated with Linux Mint).

I suppose it may be a good thing if many of the Linux distros converge on a standard. It has always seemed like an issue that many Linux distros have used their own package managers etc..

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Re: Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition
By: Shaun Buzza to Gamgee on Sun Jan 09 2022 08:58 pm

He posted it on DoveNet, McNoob. That DoveNet echo is gated to
FidoNet.

Continuing to use that particular name does not encourage me to like you, hobbit.

Why are you attacking his name? He has a point. As others have pointed out, the message was writen on Dove-Net, which allows aliases. I'm also reading this thread on Dove-Net..

Nightfox

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I stopped caring about Ubuntu when they stopped using Gnome. Now, I g my love to Linux Mint...

Isn't Gnome still the default desktop on Ubuntu? Either way, I've never really liked the default GUI on Gnome - It feels like it was designed
for a tablet. I liked classic Gnome (2.x, I believe)?.

Uh, yes, that's correct. I should have said 'classic Gnome'. My bad.

Linux Mint has been my favorite distro for a while now. I particularly like their Cinnamon UI, although I think their Xfce edition is good too.

Absolutely! All three Mint variants are pretty great. And MATE is classic Gnome, continued.

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He posted it on DoveNet, McNoob. That DoveNet echo is gated to
FidoNet.

Continuing to use that particular name does not encourage me to like hobbit.

Why are you attacking his name? He has a point. As others have pointed out, the message was writen on Dove-Net, which allows aliases. I'm also reading this thread on Dove-Net..

This is not the first time I've had this person badger me. You are probably unaware of the history between us.

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I suppose it may be a good thing if many of the Linux distros converge
on a standard. It has always seemed like an issue that many Linux
distros have used their own package managers etc..

It is also helpful for new users to get used to a single Linux variant. I can imagine what someone just coming over from Windoze would think if they knew just how many different Linux-es there are...It is one of the strengths of Linux, that it's open-source. It's also one of the weaknesses...

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Re: Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition
By: Shaun Buzza to Nightfox on Mon Jan 10 2022 07:25 pm

I suppose it may be a good thing if many of the Linux distros
converge on a standard. It has always seemed like an issue that
many Linux distros have used their own package managers etc..

It is also helpful for new users to get used to a single Linux variant. I can imagine what someone just coming over from Windoze would think if they knew just how many different Linux-es there are...It is one of the strengths of Linux, that it's open-source. It's also one of the weaknesses...

Yep.
I've sometimes heard that Linux itself is just the kernel, and what is added to that (including the GNU tools and other software, shells, and GUI if desired) is what makes it a complete OS. People often refer to all the distros generally as Linux, which isn't really wrong, but each Linux distro could be considered its own OS. I like to see innovation in the different flavors of Linux, but differences in dependencies and package management systems can make things difficult.

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Re: Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition
By: Nightfox to Shaun Buzza on Mon Jan 10 2022 01:07 pm

Re: Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition
By: Shaun Buzza to Gamgee on Sun Jan 09 2022 08:58 pm

He posted it on DoveNet, McNoob. That DoveNet echo is gated to
FidoNet.

Continuing to use that particular name does not encourage me to like you, hobbit.

Why are you attacking his name? He has a point. As others have pointed out, the message was writen on Dove-Net, which allows aliases. I'm also reading this thread on Dove-Net..

This conference allows aliases on FidoNet and USENET, for that matter.
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I've sometimes heard that Linux itself is just the kernel, and what is added to that (including the GNU tools and other software, shells, and
GUI if desired) is what makes it a complete OS.

That is 100% accurate. Technically, Linux is only the kernel. Which is why no distro calls itself just 'Linux'.

People often refer to
all the distros generally as Linux, which isn't really wrong, but each Linux distro could be considered its own OS.

Again, that's true. The only commonality between Arch, Debian, and Manjaro,
for instance, is the kernel. However, a majority of newer distros are based
on Ubuntu, or at least Debian (which Ubuntu is based on), and therefore are very similar. Which brings us right back to the start of our conversation. :)

I like to see innovation
in the different flavors of Linux, but differences in dependencies and package management systems can make things difficult.

Yes, and no. Certainly, there is a learning curve when changing to a
completely different distro. But the underlying concepts remain the same, because the kernel is the same. One will always need a package manager, for instance. The names and syntax might be different, but they all do the same job. The command line is, for the most part, also the same.

A man from England, and a woman from China, are both human. They both have eyes, ears, arms, legs, hands, and feet. They will look and sound different from each other, but more alike than, say, a human and a fish.

Linux is kinda like that; many different Linux-es, but they're all more alike with each other than they are with Windows.

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Re: Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition
By: Shaun Buzza to MRO on Mon Jan 10 2022 01:49 pm

if you think facebook gives you cred for that shit, you dont know SHIT

I wasn't bragging. I was trying to stop a troll, by pointing out that I seen, and dealt with, far worse.

I also wasn't looking for 'cred', whatever that is.

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Re: Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition
By: Nightfox to Shaun Buzza on Mon Jan 10 2022 12:59 pm

Isn't Gnome still the default desktop on Ubuntu? Either way
I've never really liked the default GUI on Gnome - It feels
like it was designed for a tablet. I liked classic Gnome (2
I believe)?.

Linux Mint has been my favorite distro for a while now. I
particularly like their Cinnamon UI, although I think their
Xfce edition is good too.

Nightfox

haha. I consider GNOME 1 the "classic GNOME". GNOME 2 was
newfnagled and dumbed down,'ans GNOME 3 an abomination.

GNOME 1.2, with the Freeamp theme Clock apllet, ahh, that is
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Shaun Buzza wrote to Nightfox <=-

People often refer to
all the distros generally as Linux, which isn't really wrong, but each Linux distro could be considered its own OS.

Again, that's true. The only commonality between Arch, Debian, and Manjaro, for instance, is the kernel. However, a majority of newer
distros are based on Ubuntu, or at least Debian (which Ubuntu is based on), and therefore are very similar. Which brings us right back to the start of our conversation. :)

I'm having RMS flashbacks, stopping interviews, podcasts and panel
discussions to "correct" people to call it GNU + Linux.

I'd call it Linux with a GNU kernel, myself. :)


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that's nice to know, mcdipshit
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Thanks for your feedback, MoROn!

Are you planning to actually take part in this discussion? Or are you just
here to throw digital feces at people like a modern-age monkey?

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I'm having RMS flashbacks, stopping interviews, podcasts and panel discussions to "correct" people to call it GNU + Linux.

I'd call it Linux with a GNU kernel, myself. :)

LOL! I've been there!

Yeah, okay, if you really want to be that specific, it was originally called GNU + Linux. However, there's nothing that's completely incorrect in what I said.

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Re: Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Shaun Buzza on Tue Jan 11 2022 06:19 am

I'd call it Linux with a GNU kernel, myself. :)

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Re: Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition
By: Shaun Buzza to MRO on Tue Jan 11 2022 02:13 pm

that's nice to know, mcdipshit
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Thanks for your feedback, MoROn!

Are you planning to actually take part in this discussion? Or are you just here to throw digital feces at people like a modern-age monkey?

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i'll choose the latter, dickless faggot.

Nobody can force you to act like an adult, but I can force you into time-out like any other child who acts out. Welcome to my filter, you twit. Buh bye!

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Re: Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition
By: Shaun Buzza to MRO on Wed Jan 12 2022 10:00 am

i'll choose the latter, dickless faggot.

Nobody can force you to act like an adult, but I can force you into time-out like any other child who acts out. Welcome to my filter, you twit. Buh bye!

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Re: Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition
By: Shaun Buzza to MRO on Wed Jan 12 2022 10:00 am

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You're welcome.

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Shaun Buzza wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

I'm having RMS flashbacks, stopping interviews, podcasts and panel discussions to "correct" people to call it GNU + Linux.

I'd call it Linux with a GNU kernel, myself. :)

LOL! I've been there!

Yeah, okay, if you really want to be that specific, it was originally called GNU + Linux. However, there's nothing that's completely
incorrect in what I said.

Oh, not at all - I was being facetious.


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On 1/10/22 01:24, Shaun Buzza wrote:

Find another target. I'm a Facebook veteran.

that's certainly not something to brag about :LOL:

I wasn't bragging. I was trying to stop a troll, by pointing out that I've seen, and dealt with, far worse.

FYI: Most of the people in here predate Facebook by a decade or two in
terms of online activity, trolls, flamewars, etc.
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On 1/10/22 13:59, Nightfox wrote:

I stopped caring about Ubuntu when they stopped using Gnome. Now,
I give my love to Linux Mint...

Isn't Gnome still the default desktop on Ubuntu? Either way, I've
never really liked the default GUI on Gnome - It feels like it was
designed for a tablet. I liked classic Gnome (2.x, I believe)?.

Linux Mint has been my favorite distro for a while now. I
particularly like their Cinnamon UI, although I think their Xfce
edition is good too.

Yeah, it's still based on Gnome 3, not sure if it was 21.10 or if it'll
be 22.04 that updates to Gnome 40 (I didn't pick the numbering).

Been using Ubuntu-Budgie for several months now, really like it a lot,
using GTK and some gnome tooling, but more customizable out of the box experience. Have mine configured with bits like windows, other bits
like osx and other things altogether different.
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Re: Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition
By: Tracker1 to Shaun Buzza on Thu Jan 13 2022 11:19 am

On 1/10/22 01:24, Shaun Buzza wrote:

Find another target. I'm a Facebook veteran.

that's certainly not something to brag about :LOL:

I wasn't bragging. I was trying to stop a troll, by pointing out that I've seen, and dealt with, far worse.

FYI: Most of the people in here predate Facebook by a decade or two in
terms of online activity, trolls, flamewars, etc.
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Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition
By: The Millionaire to All on Sun Jan 09 2022 02:16 pm

Has anyone ever tried this distro with Synchronet BBS before?

http://ultimateedition.info/

Ugh, Ubuntu.

I don't need a distro to hand-hold me. I shouldn't have to jump through 30 hoops to log in as root.

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Re: Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition
By: Shaun Buzza to The Millionaire on Sun Jan 09 2022 06:34 pm

Please use real names! This is extremely encouraged on FidoNet!

This echo is gated from DoveNet. And Fidonet has no such policy about "Real Names", it is left up to the moderator of the echo.

So please stop being excessively annoying.

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Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition
By: The Millionaire to All on Sun Jan 09 2022 02:16 pm

Has anyone ever tried this distro with Synchronet BBS before?

http://ultimateedition.info/

$ The Millionaire $

Have not seen it though hopefully another has. Me, I'm reading up tosee if there is a fix for inet_ntop issues with XP.

I had to do a workaround with: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-US/cpp/windows/lat est-supported-vc-redist?view=msvc-170#visual-studio-2010-vc-100-sp1-no-longer-s upportedhttps://docs.microsoft.com/en-US/cpp/windows/latest-supported-vc-redist ?view=msvc-170#visual-studio-2010-vc-100-sp1-no-longer-supported[3~[3~[3~

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-US/cpp/windows/lat est-supported-vc-redist?view=msvc-170#visual-studio-2010-vc-100-sp1-no-longer-s upportedhttps://docs.microsoft.com/en-US/cpp/windows/latest-supported-vc-r

Sorry, sucky putty is messy. The link to the 2 C++ files for install of the 3.19 no longer exist. (actually, second one does, first doesnt).

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Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition
By: Carol Shenkenberger to The Millionaire on Sat Jan 15 2022 04:55 pm

Have not seen it though hopefully another has. Me, I'm reading up tosee if there is a fix for inet_ntop issues with XP.

...

Sorry, sucky putty is messy. The link to the 2 C++ files for install of the 3.19 no longer exist. (actually, second one does, first doesnt).

Try this?
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=26999
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Carol Shenkenberger wrote to The Millionaire <=-

Re: Ubuntu Ultimate Edition
By: The Millionaire to All on Sun Jan 09 2022 02:16 pm

Has anyone ever tried this distro with Synchronet BBS before?

http://ultimateedition.info/

Have not seen it though hopefully another has. Me, I'm reading
up tosee if there is a fix for inet_ntop issues with XP.

Why continue to use XP?



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